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Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:53 PM May 2017

At FDA, TVs now turned to Fox News and can't be switched

Source: CBS news

Attention viewers at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration: Televisions will now be tuned to Fox News.

CBS News has confirmed an email was sent to researchers at the FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research responding to apparent efforts to change the channel on internal television screens. The email from "[White Oak] Digital Display" sent on Wednesday, May 3, was sent to inform the researchers of the "reason for the change from CNN to Fox." White Oak is the name of the FDA's campus.

The email goes on to inform employees that the decision came from the Trump administration.

"The reason for the change is that a decision from the current administration administrative officials has requested that all monitors, under our control, on the White Oak Campus, display FOX news," the email reads.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/

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At FDA, TVs now turned to Fox News and can't be switched (Original Post) Seedersandleechers May 2017 OP
I've seen this in other countries with right-wing leaders (even supposedly 'democratic' ones) tenorly May 2017 #1
Fascism 101. Same thing Chavez and Putin did. sharedvalues May 2017 #6
It's common practice, no doubt about it. tenorly May 2017 #8
There's a restaurant at the municipal airport in Camarillo CA that's like that. calimary May 2017 #19
That was always the intent behind Faux News, and of ending Net Neutrality now. tenorly May 2017 #25
love going there for the air shows... dhill926 May 2017 #45
There is talk among some of the left to let Trump finish his term. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #40
Thank you for sharing that. These cretins play for keeps. tenorly May 2017 #43
Clearly illegal and immoral. Plus, didn't they just claim they never ordered this? byronius May 2017 #2
That is so stupid that it sounds like trump Gothmog May 2017 #3
Scientists will stop this. sharedvalues May 2017 #4
TVbgone.com Historic NY May 2017 #5
was kind of wondering if shutting it off would be a resistance move? rurallib May 2017 #10
yeah 47of74 May 2017 #20
+1 mitch96 May 2017 #52
A definite resistance move. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #56
I found a similar one on Amazon for $2.98 w/ free shipping. COLGATE4 May 2017 #27
You deserve a reward for that. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #41
this country is just too weird mdbl May 2017 #7
Can't be switched... Blue Idaho May 2017 #9
This will backfire. warmfeet May 2017 #11
Fox news can also be ignored, ridiculed, etc. jack69 May 2017 #12
Fox News is the United States version of Russia's, RT. sarcasmo May 2017 #13
Unplug all of 'em. eom bluevoter4life May 2017 #14
It used to be like that at the Doctor's Office - Fox only bucolic_frolic May 2017 #15
I went to mine and demanded that they change the channel until I left turbinetree May 2017 #16
Any smart phone can get an app SCVDem May 2017 #17
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Tactical Peek May 2017 #18
I wonder if employees could file a complaint 47of74 May 2017 #21
I would file a complaint... 2naSalit May 2017 #29
It would have most likely been a violation BumRushDaShow May 2017 #37
Actual copy of the email below at #38 post. n/t dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #42
Yeah CBS update had a copy (not screencap)... nt BumRushDaShow May 2017 #47
damn good idea of the day dembotoz May 2017 #48
This happens in the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea too IronLionZion May 2017 #22
I've heard that NK sets will only receive the govt channel & nothing else is even possible 7962 May 2017 #50
id get me a device called tvbgone AllaN01Bear May 2017 #23
Great, state run TV... no news for you! Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #24
It's sounding more and more like 1984. THe book, I mean. Amaryllis May 2017 #26
The real issue is the proliferation of TVs everywhere. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #28
Same here... 2naSalit May 2017 #30
Lucky me, I am not sensitive to that high pitched tone. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #34
I haven't had one since 1980... 2naSalit May 2017 #39
If they're using "smart tvs" then it is possible they're being used as spying devices diva77 May 2017 #57
You turn off TVs in public spaces? Blue_Tires May 2017 #59
I don't go to ballparks. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #60
No, I think the real issue was addressed in the OP. LanternWaste May 2017 #61
You are right, that the issue presented was PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #62
It's not that bad here csziggy May 2017 #63
TVs came to gov't offices in the late-1990s or so DeminPennswoods May 2017 #31
It's my opinion that TVs simply don't belong in the workplace. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #35
Agree about offices DeminPennswoods May 2017 #36
ACLU has lots o money now. I wonder if they have a case. mucifer May 2017 #32
Big brother is fucking watching you and you will watch it Cha May 2017 #33
Fascism...Fox is the state news organ of PEEOTUS workinclasszero May 2017 #38
Just wait till they require telescreens in every room. briv1016 May 2017 #44
Like this? workinclasszero May 2017 #46
Here's the article in TWSJ. about this, via the author's Twitter feed. mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #49
I worked for the Federal Gov't during the Reagan years, marybourg May 2017 #51
Turn the televisions to "OFF." WinkyDink May 2017 #53
Yep. I don't understand why there are TVs at all. GoCubsGo May 2017 #54
why do they have teevees at all? i hate teevees everywhere. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #55
Mafia presidency... Blue_Tires May 2017 #58
Can they turn the TVs off? n/t Zing Zing Zingbah May 2017 #64

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
1. I've seen this in other countries with right-wing leaders (even supposedly 'democratic' ones)
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:55 PM
May 2017

In Argentina, for instance, the current president, Mauricio Macri, keeps the head of restaurant workers' union on his side by bribing him.

Consequently, any bar or restaurant staffed with members of his union will almost always have the tv set tuned in to TN - the right-wing cable news outlet similar to Fox.

Fascism 101.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
8. It's common practice, no doubt about it.
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:05 PM
May 2017

Many of us just never really thought we'd see it in the U.S.

Then again, for those of us who lived in the Deep South for at least a few years, it should come as no surprise.

calimary

(81,091 posts)
19. There's a restaurant at the municipal airport in Camarillo CA that's like that.
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:33 PM
May 2017

The owner has issued a standing order that the big flat screen TV in the entryway is on Pox Noise. ALL THE TIME.

I know because I ate there once and I asked. I ALWAYS ask - whenever I'm in any business that has a TV on that's tuned to Pox Noise. As a paying customer, I use my status as such to take a smack at Pox Noise. I did that at my bank. I kept doing that til they changed it. But I failed at that restaurant. The young woman at the reception desk told me it was a flat-out order from the owner. I told her I intend to remember that.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
25. That was always the intent behind Faux News, and of ending Net Neutrality now.
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:28 PM
May 2017

The consolidation of all news sources into one, state-approved mouthpiece - but not a mouthpiece of the state as much as of the elites.

Winning the Net Neutrality fight will be crucial to thwarting these designs of theirs.

And good on you for letting them know, calimary. Frankly, I doubt I would have had the courage to do so.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. There is talk among some of the left to let Trump finish his term.
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:03 AM
May 2017

and to just try to keep him blocked.
Bad bad bad idea, and dangerous.

All waiting room tvs in our local hospital are tuned to Fox. A lot of them are too high to be channel switched or turned off. So staff have to/can listen to the propaganda all day long.

damn...this latest is very scary. Please share this everywhere.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
43. Thank you for sharing that. These cretins play for keeps.
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:41 AM
May 2017

I don't doubt your anecdote in the least. I lived in your neighboring state, Mississippi, for a few years. Suffice it to say, the right-wing governing clique there has zero respect for the idea of a free press - and if you're white and they don't know that you're a liberal, they'll gladly share that with you to your face.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. Scientists will stop this.
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:02 PM
May 2017

Scientists are smart and know that Fox News lies.

Fox news will stay on in the offices of simpleminded GOP like Burr and Grassley.

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
10. was kind of wondering if shutting it off would be a resistance move?
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:15 PM
May 2017

A dead tv would be better than one spewing shit.

that looks like a handy little device for those p;aces you have to wait and they have FUX on the tube.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
20. yeah
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:39 PM
May 2017

I remember the first gym I was a member of, and they insisted on having Faux Spews on one of the TVs there. I finally sent a message to management asking if they could switch it to something else and they actually did for a while until some snowflake reich winger complained that he couldn't get his helping of propaganda while working out. Then they changed it back. I go to the Y now and if it's on one of the overhead TVs I change it right away. I have my response all ready to go each time. As in go the FUCK home if you want to watch that shit that badly.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
27. I found a similar one on Amazon for $2.98 w/ free shipping.
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:42 PM
May 2017

Let you know how it works out. Can't wait to try it at my Dr's office and a favorite bar!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. You deserve a reward for that.
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:13 AM
May 2017

I had no idea these existed.
Now when I go to the local hospital I can quietly turn off the waiting room tvs.
thank you!

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
16. I went to mine and demanded that they change the channel until I left
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:25 PM
May 2017

and asked that it be placed on Free Speech TV

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
17. Any smart phone can get an app
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:25 PM
May 2017

TV remote also works great in bars and anywhere else there is an obnoxious TV.

I have had good results with Peel.

Resist!

2naSalit

(86,318 posts)
29. I would file a complaint...
Sat May 6, 2017, 12:05 AM
May 2017

simply working for the government doesn't make you a slave to the president.

BumRushDaShow

(128,392 posts)
37. It would have most likely been a violation
Sat May 6, 2017, 07:44 AM
May 2017

and notably because it was put in writing. Sounds like the email may have been from a WO media support email address.

There was an update to the article though -

"The reason for the change is that a decision from the current administration administrative officials has requested that all monitors, under our control, on the White Oak Campus, display FOX news," the email reads.

Then, White Oak apologizes for the "inconvenience," adding, "I am unable to change any of the monitors to any other news source at this time."

An FDA spokesperson got back to CBS News after our deadline, telling us, "There was no directive or memorandum from the Administration that went out to employees about broadcast news channels displaying on monitors in common areas throughout the FDA's White Oak campus."

The spokesperson explained that a variety of news stations run on the monitors in the common areas on campus, including CNN, MSNBC and FOX News, and that the email referenced had been sent by a customer service representative from the FDA's Office of Facilities in response to a group of employees.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/


I wouldn't be surprised if some "beach head" directed that the CSR send that out.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
22. This happens in the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea too
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:51 PM
May 2017

So it's all perfectly normal. People are too undeserving of a choice, and CNN is fake news. Soon we'll have mandatory Breitbart and have to listen to Rush.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
50. I've heard that NK sets will only receive the govt channel & nothing else is even possible
Sat May 6, 2017, 03:50 PM
May 2017

heard that for yrs, dont know if its true or not though

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
28. The real issue is the proliferation of TVs everywhere.
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:43 PM
May 2017

Every single waiting place: doctor office, the wait room at the dealership, in retail stores, in banks.

What the fuck is wrong with people that they can't read a book or a magazine or talk to someone?

Since I don't have a TV at home I especially bothered by this. Some years back at a dentist office I complained about the recently installed TV, which was on some quite innocuous channel like Animal Planet. I suggested they install an aquarium, or failing that, simply tune into a broadcast of an aquarium.

I've been known to turn of TVs in public places. I truly despise them, no matter what they are tuned to.

2naSalit

(86,318 posts)
30. Same here...
Sat May 6, 2017, 12:10 AM
May 2017

the teevees give me headaches, they make a really high pitched tone that I can hear and it's like a smoke detector squeal only constant, some security systems in store have that and I walk out immediately when I hear that sound. It gives me a headache after a couple moments and hurts my ears.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
34. Lucky me, I am not sensitive to that high pitched tone.
Sat May 6, 2017, 01:48 AM
May 2017

You absolutely get my sympathy for that.

I will assure you, that even without that sensibility, the prevalence of TVs is beyond odious.

I always carry a book (sometimes two) with me, just in case I need to wait for a while, I'll have something to read. I do get it that not everyone is a reader, but that's not a reason to have television sets everywhere. If you don't read, bring your crocheting or your whittling with you, or engage in conversation with others. DON'T spend all your waking hours glued to the correctly named idiot box.

As a related aside, I honestly believe that Sesame Street is one of the worst things that ever happened to early childhood education. Yeah, so it taught numbers and the alphabet. Big fucking deal. It also strongly encouraged a very short attention span, which is one of the banes of modern life.

I NEVER turned on Sesame Street for my kids. I strictly limited what and how much TV they could watch, perhaps more so than was needed. But guess what? They both wound up with a much longer attention span than most of their peers.

Oh, and when my oldest was in kindergarten, I recall the teachers commenting that they'd NEVER had kids doing karate moves on each other until the Ninja Mutant Turtles (if I even have the name correct) came out. The teachers were crazed by that fad.

TV absolutely has its good points. But it has at least as many bad ones, and people need to be a heck of a lot more sensitive to both.

I know people who have the TV on all the time, sometimes because they can't bear to be without sound in their home (really, what's with that?) and other times because someone in residence will be watching whatever. As noted above, I don't own a TV, and when I visit certain people (my sister comes to mind here) I'm driven quite crazy by the fact the TV is on almost all the time. It wouldn't be so bad if it were possible to get away from the TV, but the layout of her house -- and the layout of most homes -- is such that it's not possible to be out of sound of the TV. And it's not whether or not I want to watch a particular network or show. She's not one to watch Fox, but it's the constant presence of the TV that is so awful.

Really. Turn it off once in a while. It will do you good.

Oh, and I am actually at least as well informed as anyone I know without TV. Hmmmm. I wonder why that's the case?

2naSalit

(86,318 posts)
39. I haven't had one since 1980...
Sat May 6, 2017, 10:03 AM
May 2017

when I walked away from my spouse, the teevee was theirs. I gladly live w/o such an odious device in my life.

diva77

(7,629 posts)
57. If they're using "smart tvs" then it is possible they're being used as spying devices
Sat May 6, 2017, 09:18 PM
May 2017
https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/7/14527360/vizio-smart-tv-tracking-settlement-disable-settings

The data they collect is valuable and can be sold for $$$; and maybe they'll witness something incriminating while they're at it, or scare off dissenters or organizers

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
60. I don't go to ballparks.
Mon May 8, 2017, 01:33 PM
May 2017

Are the jumbotrons tuned to Fox News? If so, I'm especially glad I don't go.

To clarify: I'll turn off a TV in a waiting room if I'm the only one there, or the other people seem not to be paying any attention, and I'll ask them before I do.

As I mentioned, I always have a book or two on me to read. Other people can play games on their "smart" phones. People really should know how to entertain themselves when they're waiting for something.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
61. No, I think the real issue was addressed in the OP.
Mon May 8, 2017, 01:45 PM
May 2017

No, I think the real issue was addressed in the OP: the lack of choice being offered, rather than a puerile dislike of a particular medium objectively no better nor no worse than any other medium.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
62. You are right, that the issue presented was
Mon May 8, 2017, 01:58 PM
May 2017

no choice of which channel or network to have on. But I still think the fundamental problem is the perceived need to have televisions in every public space.

I don't happen to own a TV, but I do watch a reasonable number of shows because I can get them on the internet. I can also often find live streaming of breaking news of some sort.

It's not a puerile dislike of the medium itself, but a strong dislike of being forced to watch it just because someone thinks there needs to be a TV on all the time in their business or office. It's annoying and disruptive to have it on all the time, no matter what's on. Closed captioning is available, which helps, so the sound can be off. But even the moving pictures on the screen are distracting at best.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
63. It's not that bad here
Mon May 8, 2017, 07:15 PM
May 2017

My doctor and dentist don't have TVs, the post office used to but removed it, none of the bank branches I use have one, the only stores I go do not unless they are selling them.

Yes, the waiting rooms at the service centers I take my vehicles do have TVs but they leave the remotes on the table so if I am the only one there, I turn it off. I only stick around for routine servicing - if I need a lot of work done, I drop off the vehicle and pick it up the next day.

I fired a dentist because he had his waiting room TV turned to Fox and in addition while he was checking my teeth he constantly spewed right wing talking points. I never went back. When looking for a new dentist, I made sure to find one that had no TV and seems to be a liberal from the volunteering he does in the community. We do not talk politics, though, which is fine with me.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
31. TVs came to gov't offices in the late-1990s or so
Sat May 6, 2017, 12:47 AM
May 2017

We had them all over our DoD office. I wondered why we needed them when we had jobs to do. They were usually tuned to c-span and there weren't any remotes, but they could be turned on and off manually. I think the channels must have been controlled in a central location. I know you can tie multiple TVs into just one cable box so that every set shows the same channel.

For some reason, we did get to watch the women's world cup soccer win over China in 1999, though. The one where Brandi Chastain tore off her jersey after scoring the winning goal. Not much work got done that afternoon...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
35. It's my opinion that TVs simply don't belong in the workplace.
Sat May 6, 2017, 01:50 AM
May 2017

Unless, perhaps, you work for a network or maybe a cable show.

Otherwise, isn't there work to be done?

Similarly, the ubiquitous presence of TVs in airports makes me want to kill someone.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
36. Agree about offices
Sat May 6, 2017, 07:17 AM
May 2017

I can see having TVs in lobbies or waiting areas, but in an office setting, you have work to do! No matter what is on, TV in the office can be and is distracting.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,284 posts)
49. Here's the article in TWSJ. about this, via the author's Twitter feed.
Sat May 6, 2017, 03:33 PM
May 2017
Why did the #FDA change the news feed on its public t.v. monitors from CNN to Fox? My @WSJPolitics story



In Trump era, #FDA t.v. monitors got switched to Fox News from CNN. Fox News on the left. My @WSJ story



CNN and Fox News Fight for TV Supremacy at FDA Headquarters

By Thomas M. Burton

@TomBurtonWSJ
Tom.Burton@wsj.com

May 5, 2017 3:00 pm ET
1 COMMENTS

With the new administration comes a new cable-news pick at the Food and Drug Administration: Officials switched television monitors at the agency’s main campus to Fox News from CNN, before later changing some of them back.

Personnel responsible for the TV displays told a group of employees in an email this week that “the reason for the change {to Fox News} is that a decision from the current administration administrative officials has requested that all monitors, under our control, on the White Oak campus display Fox News.” The note added: “I am unable to change any of the monitors to any other news source at this time.”
....

Share this: http://on.wsj.com/2qMAyju

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
51. I worked for the Federal Gov't during the Reagan years,
Sat May 6, 2017, 04:07 PM
May 2017

when a black and white 8x10 glossy of the then-current POTUS was traditionally ( and maybe by regulation) supposed to be displayed in every office space. In our office, my co-workers and I removed the portrait of Reagan and replace it with a file copy of JFK. I think we got away without anyone commenting for about 5 years.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
54. Yep. I don't understand why there are TVs at all.
Sat May 6, 2017, 06:18 PM
May 2017

I didn't realize that watching cable news was part of an FDA employee's job.

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