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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun May 7, 2017, 10:23 AM May 2017

Ryan: Criticism Of GOP's O'Care Repeal Process Is 'A Bogus Attack' From Left

Source: Talking Points Memo

By ESME CRIBB Published MAY 7, 2017 10:17 AM

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) on Sunday claimed that concerns about the process of passing Republicans’ bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, which cleared the House last week in an iteration which has not been scored by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, are “a bogus attack from the left.”

“A lot of your members have conceded they didn’t read the bill. There wasn’t a single committee hearing or committee markup on the finalized version of the bill. There wasn’t a CBO analysis of this bill,” George Stephanopoulos asked Ryan on ABC’s “This Week.” “So have you met your own standard here?”

“Yeah, I think this is kind of a bogus attack from the left. Let me say a couple of things,” Ryan said. “The bill’s been online for two months.”

“Not the final version,” Stephanopoulos interjected. “The final version was an amendment that was three pages long. It takes you 30 seconds to read,” Ryan said.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-concerns-gop-obamacare-repeal



‘Let Me Finish My Point’: Ryan Flustered by Stephanopoulos Over Healthcare Bill Questions

by Alberto Luperon | 10:01 am, May 7th, 2017

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin) showed up on This Week on Sunday for what ended up being a testy debate over healthcare. Does the American Health Care Act hurt people with pre-existing conditions? Host George Stephanopoulos suggested it could, but his interjections aggravated the Speaker.

“Under this bill, no matter what, you cannot be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,” Ryan said. “Nor under this bill–”

“But you can charge people more,” Stephanopoulos suggested.

“Let me finish my point,” the Speaker said. “You can’t charge people more if they keep continuous coverage. The key of having a continuous coverage provision is to make sure people stay covered and move from one plan to the next if they want to.” He said this would keep costs down, but Stephanopoulos suggested that people can lose coverage “through no fault of their own.”

“Just let me finish my point, George,” Ryan said. “I was just getting there until you cut me off.”

He pointed out the part of the bill concerning waivers for states that want to allow insurers to charge higher premiums for people with pre-existing conditions. The fix is the federally-funded pool for high-risk patients, Ryan said.

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http://lawnewz.com/video/let-me-finish-my-point-ryan-flustered-by-stephanopoulos-over-healthcare-bill-questions/
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Ryan: Criticism Of GOP's O'Care Repeal Process Is 'A Bogus Attack' From Left (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
If you have $400,000 to spend you can't be denied a Ferrari either...... Bengus81 May 2017 #1
I'd like to think that even the deplorable's wouldn't accept a big step backwards. Trump brewens May 2017 #2
Can't wait for the CBO scoring. lark May 2017 #3
Dumb question. reflection May 2017 #18
I "think" they have to be asked. lark May 2017 #19
Thank you. n/t reflection May 2017 #21
So all people with health care needs PatSeg May 2017 #4
To those murderers, everybody to THEIR left is a left-wing extremists meow2u3 May 2017 #7
Yeah, its an old cheap PatSeg May 2017 #10
Anyone who isn't reich or rich is their enemy. lark May 2017 #20
Hey Ryan if I want to buy a house or car, or get a credit card------------------I have to go and get turbinetree May 2017 #5
I couldn't have said it better turbinetree! n/t jazzcat23 May 2017 #16
Wado-------------Thank you turbinetree May 2017 #17
(Republican Congressman) voted for special benefits/treatment for himself and his family. keithbvadu2 May 2017 #6
"continuous coverage" is weasel-wording & he knows it. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #8
+1. dalton99a May 2017 #9
It's not a 'bogus' attack canetoad May 2017 #11
Eddie Munster can go fuck himself. roamer65 May 2017 #12
Which is why Kasich is against it. Right, batboy? truthisfreedom May 2017 #13
"Flustered by Stephanopoulos" hibbing May 2017 #14
Fuck you, Ryan. Initech May 2017 #15
Oh, shut it, you bug eyed creep! smirkymonkey May 2017 #22

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
1. If you have $400,000 to spend you can't be denied a Ferrari either......
Sun May 7, 2017, 10:52 AM
May 2017

Plain and simple,Eddie Munster has NO idea what is in Trumpcare 2.0--and neither does Trump. In their eyes a win is a win,someone else can worry about the details.

brewens

(13,546 posts)
2. I'd like to think that even the deplorable's wouldn't accept a big step backwards. Trump
Sun May 7, 2017, 10:57 AM
May 2017

promised an improvement, lower deductibles and lower premiums. I suppose they give him a pass on even that though.

lark

(23,065 posts)
3. Can't wait for the CBO scoring.
Sun May 7, 2017, 11:00 AM
May 2017

This will put an end to Repugs once the truth is known and their lies outted as self=serving fictions to give tax cuts to the rich from $ originally put aside for the working poor. Some people are just too stupid or hate filled for the truth, and there's no reaching these Nazi like deplorables. I do think this will be a turning point for some former drumpf voters.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
18. Dumb question.
Mon May 8, 2017, 02:36 PM
May 2017

Does the CBO scoring occur automatically or does it have to be solicited? We all know they rushed this one through without scoring because the CBO eviscerated them on their first draft.

Will it be scored after the fact, even though the Senate does not appear to be using it as the springboard for their bill?

lark

(23,065 posts)
19. I "think" they have to be asked.
Mon May 8, 2017, 02:47 PM
May 2017

I think I've heard that the Senate has requested this information, or at least Schumer has and that the scoring is expected and will play a part in the new trumpcare bill.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
7. To those murderers, everybody to THEIR left is a left-wing extremists
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:31 PM
May 2017

Even conservatives with health care needs!

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
10. Yeah, its an old cheap
Sun May 7, 2017, 01:36 PM
May 2017

GOP trick, labeling people 'extremists' or 'special interests' when they disagree with republican legislation.

lark

(23,065 posts)
20. Anyone who isn't reich or rich is their enemy.
Mon May 8, 2017, 02:51 PM
May 2017

Especially brown people and women, but really it includes everyone. Not rich, get badly injured, die, regardless of whether you own a small business, are a day laborer, or unemployed. They don't care, they are equal opportunity killers, even going after military folks.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
5. Hey Ryan if I want to buy a house or car, or get a credit card------------------I have to go and get
Sun May 7, 2017, 11:35 AM
May 2017

CREDIT SCORE before they let me have anything. Did you and I repeat DID YOU and your bigoted, racist, fascist AYN RAND full of sh*t hypocrites get the score, NOPE, NADA, ZILCH, ZERO , you really are a f***ing asshole, trying to blame your scam on the left.

Not one democrat voted for your f***ing plan and the scam, not one, and then you say the left is at fault, f*** you, your hurting the idiots that keep voting you into office and around the country the f***ing deplorable's and everyone else.

That's all you do, trying to blame the left, f*** you again, and the horse you ride in on.

Your on f***ing "RECESS AGAIN----------not working 65 days and counting so far this year, but when you do work, you want to kill people and hurt people for health insurance needs, and to top it all off your gang exempted themselves from this bill that you passed to the senate----------f*** you) , making over $223,500 a year doing what, trying your f*****ing damnedest to blame democrats for the hurt and death you want to create to give the 1% and the .01% over a 650 billion in tax credits just to hurt and kill people, with that f****ing goofy smile of your's


F**** YOU

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
6. (Republican Congressman) voted for special benefits/treatment for himself and his family.
Sun May 7, 2017, 11:36 AM
May 2017

Make sure to mention this --- OFTEN

(Republican Congressman) voted for special benefits/treatment for himself and his family.

https://www.vox.com/2017/4/25/15429982/gop-exemption-ahca-amendment

Republicans exempt their own insurance from their latest health care proposal

Republican legislators want to keep popular Obamacare provisions for themselves and their staff.

.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
8. "continuous coverage" is weasel-wording & he knows it.
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:32 PM
May 2017

The RepubliCON DontCare ChumpCare 3.0 act give insurance companies so many ways to drop people and to deny them coverage for preexisting conditions.

Change jobs (and benefits) and you are dropped because of your preexisting condition.

Change insurance companies and your preexisting condition denies you coverage.

Miss one payment by one day and you are dropped.

Make one small misstatement of fact on one form and you are dropped.

Violate one small clause of the lengthy fine print and you are dropped.

So many ways for companies to drop people. But it purposely hides and obscures the elephant:

[font size = "+1"]The bill does not provide ways for people with preexisting conditions to get coverage if they don't already have it.[/font]

[font size = "+2"]It is designed to lock people into their insurance companies so they can never leave or change.[/font]


It is fundamentally anti-competitive. On top of being vile and deleterious to people.

canetoad

(17,136 posts)
11. It's not a 'bogus' attack
Sun May 7, 2017, 05:36 PM
May 2017

It is very real. The so-called Speaker should have a better command of language than this.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
14. "Flustered by Stephanopoulos"
Sun May 7, 2017, 08:59 PM
May 2017

If you're flustered by him, imagine what would half he had to face a real journalist.

Peace

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Oh, shut it, you bug eyed creep!
Mon May 8, 2017, 04:32 PM
May 2017

Everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie. Nobody believes a word that you say.

God, he is just repulsive!

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