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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:21 AM May 2017

Amazing haul of ancient human finds unveiled

Source: BBC

A new haul of ancient human remains has been described from an important cave site in South Africa.

The finds, including a well-preserved skull, bolster the idea that the Homo naledi people deliberately deposited their dead in the cave.

Evidence of such complex behaviour is surprising for a human species with a brain that's a third the size of ours.

Despite showing some primitive traits it lived relatively recently, perhaps as little as 235,000 years ago.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39842975



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Amazing haul of ancient human finds unveiled (Original Post) jpak May 2017 OP
How long dead does a human have to be before we can dig them up? snooper2 May 2017 #1
Heck thats easy madokie May 2017 #2
In some areas, it's 100 years. woodsprite May 2017 #5
Sounds like you have something specific in mind. JohnnyRingo May 2017 #7
It doesn't look "human" to me, more like an ape Baclava May 2017 #3
Nope - genus Homo jpak May 2017 #4
Still a guess.... 'Ten Years On, the Flores Hobbit Remains an Evolutionary Puzzle ' Baclava May 2017 #6
But still genus Homo jpak May 2017 #10
Hominids are defined by the use of tools FakeNoose May 2017 #8
Chimps use tools, and they communicate Baclava May 2017 #9
This pic might have been a better choice cstanleytech May 2017 #11
ha ha , nice one! n/t Baclava May 2017 #12
LOL! fleur-de-lisa May 2017 #13
My measure of "people" is very wide. hunter May 2017 #14
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. How long dead does a human have to be before we can dig them up?
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:15 AM
May 2017

Mummies are fair game obviously...

How about a 2000 year old grave site, maybe looking for body of so-called virgin Mary? How about a wealthy land owner 200 years ago...who was buried with a bunch of gold watches?

woodsprite

(11,905 posts)
5. In some areas, it's 100 years.
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:28 AM
May 2017

My daughter and I were just having this conversation the other day. She's taking a class in historic preservation policy and procedures. Their pre-fieldtrip lecture covered this before they visited a local cemetary.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
7. Sounds like you have something specific in mind.
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:33 AM
May 2017

Hahaha

I don't know if anyone caught digging in an old cemetery ever tried the archaeology angle before, but I guess it's worth a shot.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
3. It doesn't look "human" to me, more like an ape
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:21 AM
May 2017

Their were many side-bars to the walking ape tree - not all of them were "human"

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
6. Still a guess.... 'Ten Years On, the Flores Hobbit Remains an Evolutionary Puzzle '
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:31 AM
May 2017

To be or not to be human? That's a question some scholars still feel is up for debate when it comes to Homo floresiensis.



Although parts of its anatomy resembled those of very ancient humans, dating analysis puts the skeleton at about 18,000 years old.

That means the seemingly primitive species lived at the same time as modern humans (Homo sapiens), which appeared about 200,000 years ago. In other words, the Hobbit appears to be the latest surviving human species, aside from our own.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ten-years-flores-hobbit-human-evolution-fossil-puzzle-180953108/

FakeNoose

(32,599 posts)
8. Hominids are defined by the use of tools
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:42 AM
May 2017

Even if they don't look especially human-like, the use of tools separates them from animals.
Also any sign of an ability to communicate, but that would be hard to prove.
The size of their brain doesn't determine everything, but it is an indicator.


hunter

(38,304 posts)
14. My measure of "people" is very wide.
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:36 PM
May 2017

Everything from Orcas to Elephants to Orangutans to Parrots, they are all my brothers and sisters.

We share the planet with a wide variety of sentient, intelligent species, yet somehow we think we are alone, that we are somehow "special," created in some petty god's image thousands of years ago as a white-clay Adam, or blue-eyed Jesus. That's not a god worthy of worship.

Or equally crazy, we search for intelligent life in space when we are blind to it here.

Genus "Homo" is assigned to a species based on structure (for example, the shapes of teeth and bones) and the best scientific arguments for the specie's time and place in the evolution of apes.

We humans *are* apes.



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