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elleng

(141,926 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:55 PM May 2017

F.B.I. Director Comey Is Fired by Trump.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by sarisataka (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: nyt

President Trump has dismissed the director of the F.B.I., James B. Comey, on the recommendation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said on Tuesday.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/james-comey-fired-fbi.html?

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F.B.I. Director Comey Is Fired by Trump. (Original Post) elleng May 2017 OP
destroying the country and tearing us apart Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #1
I wonder which FSB Officer Trump will replace Comey with? TheBlackAdder May 2017 #15
"You've lost that lovin' feeling. . . ." tblue37 May 2017 #2
He is no longer an asset. usaf-vet May 2017 #4
Damn straight.... berksdem May 2017 #17
Comey should be lucky that, for now, being fired doesn't end in a pit with anti-aircraft gunnery. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #22
for now RegexReader May 2017 #85
You beat me to it.... Good one! keithbvadu2 May 2017 #62
Lindsey Graham, heading a senate investigation, Hortensis May 2017 #112
Saturday Night Massacre Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #18
AGREE 1 million %! BigmanPigman May 2017 #46
I agree...but Trump will not be able to shut this down...Why? Stuart G May 2017 #108
Yep it begins. Volaris May 2017 #129
Here's how the New York Times reported it: NBachers May 2017 #131
That's what I just told my boyfriend............ mrmpa May 2017 #87
OMG! He's going to fire ANYONE and EVERYONE involved in the investigation and is unbiased. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #3
Yep. dalton99a May 2017 #5
The Night of the Long Knives begins. nt tblue37 May 2017 #6
That will probably do him much more damage in the long run, because it tblue37 May 2017 #7
All that matters is the official finding by the FBI. Not how it looks. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #33
The Court of Public Opinion in the Short Run Leith May 2017 #74
Don't count your chickens yet. briv1016 May 2017 #97
Oh, dear God, I hope not. I'd hate for her and the Dems to have to go thru that again. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #126
trying to shut the investigation down onethatcares May 2017 #23
Hard to buy that line of reasoning though after the way Comey bent over backwards to rush to assist cstanleytech May 2017 #28
John Schindler, considered by some to be a significant political insider, is stunned. calimary May 2017 #8
Also - another Twitter source considered credible: Claude Taylor calimary May 2017 #36
That's what Traitors do. byronius May 2017 #9
Twitter is abuzz to understate it bucolic_frolic May 2017 #10
I really hope.... berksdem May 2017 #29
hate to say it about twitter but RegexReader May 2017 #124
Becoming more and more like Watergate - only worse dbackjon May 2017 #11
The Saturday Night Massacre didn't work too well for Nixon NastyRiffraff May 2017 #70
Alot of people including myself were already having a hard time trusting the FBI because cstanleytech May 2017 #12
Lordy! BeyondGeography May 2017 #13
WTF? Nonhlanhla May 2017 #14
I'm investing in Popcorn manufacturers. This could be big... madinmaryland May 2017 #25
I'm going to need something stronger Mad Auggie May 2017 #37
Hey Auggie!! Don't spend much time in the Sports Group, madinmaryland May 2017 #116
I've been at REBELDEMS.COM ... Auggie May 2017 #118
LOL!! Good One, Mad!! TomJulie May 2017 #67
But it would only be a temporary reprieve for anyone involved with the Russians as there cstanleytech May 2017 #44
Self-serving comment from Trump included in this statement. Judi Lynn May 2017 #16
Tacky yes and it's not like Trump doesn't lie on a daily basis. WePurrsevere May 2017 #72
It would almost certainly be classified. briv1016 May 2017 #105
That would be spectacular. He would become a cleaner man, in the process! n/t Judi Lynn May 2017 #111
Sick ! Bad ! nocalflea May 2017 #19
This makes him Rebl2 May 2017 #20
It sure made Nixon look very guilty in 1973. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #39
Big difference is though you probably could have gotten enough Repugnants on board back then to cstanleytech May 2017 #52
When they shift against tRump (and they will) it will be swift and massive. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #59
I doubt enough will shift to make a difference especially the leadership who seem ok to go along cstanleytech May 2017 #69
McCONnell won't shift. He's involved & his wife was paid off with a cushy cabinet appointment. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #75
+1000 byronius May 2017 #91
Both (republican controlled) Houses of Congress do not seem very enthused about investigating. keithbvadu2 May 2017 #73
No, Delphinus May 2017 #125
Holy crap. Biggest moment in last 100 years, along with Cuban Missile Crisis and Pearl Harbor sharedvalues May 2017 #21
Key. Hardly that big though. Ranks up with the Watergate Saturday Night Massacre though. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #34
This is the beginning of the end. sharedvalues May 2017 #47
I think its just behind the Night of the Long Knives. nt cstanleytech May 2017 #55
That was internal Nazi business & people died. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #64
Thats why I said just behind it rather than equal to it or worse. nt cstanleytech May 2017 #65
Mafia presidency... Blue_Tires May 2017 #24
Can we convince the Senate to step-up it's investigation? Auggie May 2017 #26
Will his replacement Turbineguy May 2017 #27
Comey's replacement could be son-in-law Jared who will sell some visas to Russian lawyers to 'invest keithbvadu2 May 2017 #81
MUST have an independant investigation! eom tiredtoo May 2017 #30
Sessions recused himself from the investigation. Sessions dismissing Comey is not proper Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #31
There's nothing in the article about Sessions. OP might be wrong about that. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2017 #76
Perhaps, but Trumps letter says "upon the advice of AG Sessions" Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #82
tRump is so stupid he refers to himself and "under investigation" in the same sentence. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #86
I lived in Miami during the seventies & eighties. As the cocaine dealers got more and more paranoid, NBachers May 2017 #32
I love History in the making onethatcares May 2017 #35
You're seeing history. Today, May 9th 2017, is a historic day. sharedvalues May 2017 #42
On the recommendations of Jeff Session the perjurer. wildeyed May 2017 #38
It's getting to be time Nwgirl503 May 2017 #40
Don't forget--he also fired US attorney Preet Bharara, whose investigations tblue37 May 2017 #41
Thanks for the reminder. elleng May 2017 #60
When Nixon tried to fire his special prosecutor (Archibald Cox), he faced backlash MrPurple May 2017 #43
They are going after Hillary and Bill OldRedneck May 2017 #45
SH*T, I hope not but you're probably correct. BigmanPigman May 2017 #50
no doubt RegexReader May 2017 #114
Woah. Are the Republican's going to turn this into a Constitutional Crisis? jalan48 May 2017 #48
Our new FBI Director will probably be a set of Russian nesting dolls. TeamPooka May 2017 #49
Comey thought he could protect FBI & his job Oct. 2016 with the disgusting Hillary letter. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #51
He was playing Boy Scout in his head BeyondGeography May 2017 #79
There is no stronger or more addictive narcotic RegexReader May 2017 #121
Get Greta V. off the air* FenwayDonkey May 2017 #53
C'mon FBI, CIA, start to leak everything and stop the madness Freethinker65 May 2017 #54
holy shit. retrowire May 2017 #56
Trump is partying like it's 1973. liberalmuse May 2017 #57
In the tradition of J. Edgar Hoover, of course Comey has files on Trump and family and company. no_hypocrisy May 2017 #58
and there has to be redundancy in the FBI, so we will see what happens still_one May 2017 #66
Hate to keep posting Twitter bucolic_frolic May 2017 #61
No tears shed from. Of course the bad news is he is going to put one of his cronies who will try to still_one May 2017 #63
Maybe they will say Comey lied to Hillary about the Weiner laptop email nonsense. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #68
FReak site is cheering Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #71
Rimjob land is still around? 47of74 May 2017 #132
There must be a reason beyond Comey's corruption jmowreader May 2017 #77
Firing the person investigating Russiagate makes Trump look even more guilty. nt WePurrsevere May 2017 #78
especially without addressing the public...especially without apparent reason. If he had good wiggs May 2017 #88
The Godfather IV RoccoRyg May 2017 #80
I need to apologize to President Nixon's family Snake Plissken May 2017 #83
I don't care who did it. Comey got justice!!! yallerdawg May 2017 #84
Concur. ucrdem May 2017 #94
nixon all over again but this time on meth. nt Javaman May 2017 #89
All of Trump's reasons for firing Comey existed at the time he asked Comey to stay on. SunSeeker May 2017 #90
Yes Yes Yes. elleng May 2017 #92
It is past time for an independent prosecutor. LudwigPastorius May 2017 #93
I am waiting to hear Trump has chosen Sarah Palin to replace Comey mdbl May 2017 #95
Rod Rosenstein memo steventh May 2017 #96
Renaming the building for someone more worthy than Mary Hoover would help too. tenorly May 2017 #99
That's loyalty for you. tenorly May 2017 #98
They're in a panic now. ornotna May 2017 #100
What the hell is going on? UCmeNdc May 2017 #101
hahaha rtracey May 2017 #102
so how'd all that GOP appeasement work out for you, Mr. Comey? 0rganism May 2017 #103
Light up the phones! Call EVERYONE and demand a special independant prosecuter!!! mtngirl47 May 2017 #104
So Sessions (who has recused himself) recommended that Comey (who leads the investigation) be fired funkybutt May 2017 #106
Exactly. elleng May 2017 #109
Well, most on both sides didnt think he should be there, so now he's NOT. 7962 May 2017 #107
Looks like a job for Jared. JohnnyRingo May 2017 #110
I Wonder if Comey Sees the Irony dlk May 2017 #113
My husband just left to make an ice cream run! calimary May 2017 #115
Sounds better than the beer runs RegexReader May 2017 #127
Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and now Comey. Three strikes, he should be out. Might be. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #117
Right Right Right elleng May 2017 #120
This is a move to kill/bury the investigations. Not a fan of Comey but lying can't possibly be the r underpants May 2017 #119
The coup is moving right along on schedule. (and I'm not kidding.) Kablooie May 2017 #122
SMOKE & MIRRORS HUZZAH! pansypoo53219 May 2017 #123
Noose must be Tightening! Mad_Mongol May 2017 #128
welcome to DU! NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #130
Giuliani enid602 May 2017 #133
Locking sarisataka May 2017 #134

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
1. destroying the country and tearing us apart
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

is OK with Trump and team, I see.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
15. I wonder which FSB Officer Trump will replace Comey with?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:07 PM
May 2017

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
2. "You've lost that lovin' feeling. . . ."
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="

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[font size = "+2"]Will this be his Saturday Night Massacre?[/font]

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
4. He is no longer an asset.
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:59 PM
May 2017

He is now a liability.

Out lived his usefulness.

berksdem

(921 posts)
17. Damn straight....
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:08 PM
May 2017

Absolutely correct....

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
22. Comey should be lucky that, for now, being fired doesn't end in a pit with anti-aircraft gunnery.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

RegexReader

(428 posts)
85. for now
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:37 PM
May 2017

but am betting that the thought has crossed his mind a time or two.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
62. You beat me to it.... Good one!
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
112. Lindsey Graham, heading a senate investigation,
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:02 PM
May 2017

supports the firing--officially. Very interesting. Normally I'd assume Rump should keep this dangerous adder close, but disassociation looks more like the move. Also, as said, likely Comey wasn't obstructing justice enough, new Russian connection "investigator" needed.

Had to laugh when I read about yet another falling out among thieves, though. So'd my husband when I just told him. Why am I remembering the Saturday Night Massacre when it's one man on a Tuesday?

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau,” Mr. Trump said in a letter dated Tuesday to Mr. Comey.


"Given the recent controversies surrounding the director, I believe a fresh start will serve the FBI and the nation well," Graham said in a statement Tuesday.


Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
18. Saturday Night Massacre
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:08 PM
May 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre

The Saturday Night Massacre was the term used by political commentators[1] to refer to U.S. President Richard Nixon's dismissal of independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox, and as a result the resignations of Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus on October 20, 1973, during the Watergate scandal.[2][3]


Richardson had, in his confirmation hearings before the U.S. Senate, given the explicit promise not to use his authority to dismiss the Watergate Special Prosecutor, unless for cause.

When Cox issued a subpoena to President Nixon, asking for copies of taped conversations recorded in the Oval Office and authorized by Nixon, the President initially refused to comply. On Friday, October 19, 1973, Nixon offered what was later known as the Stennis Compromise—asking the infamously hard-of-hearing Senator John C. Stennis of Mississippi to review and summarize the tapes for the special prosecutor's office. Cox refused the compromise that same evening and it was believed that there would be a short rest in the legal maneuvering while government offices were closed for the weekend.

However, on the following day (a Saturday) Nixon ordered Attorney General Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson refused, and resigned in protest. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus to fire Cox. He also refused and resigned.[4][5]

Nixon then ordered the Solicitor General, Robert Bork (as acting head of the Justice Department), to fire Cox. Both Richardson and Ruckelshaus had given personal assurances to Congressional oversight committees that they would not interfere, but Bork had not. Although Bork later claimed that he believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he still considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[6] Nevertheless, having been brought to the White House by limousine and sworn in as Acting Attorney General, Bork wrote the letter firing Cox.[7]


Note: Bork was nominated by Reagan to the Supreme Court and when he had to withdraw it lead to the term "being borked".

Impact and legacy

Nixon was compelled to allow Bork to appoint a new special prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, to continue the investigation. There was a question whether Jaworski would limit the investigation to the Watergate burglary alone, or follow Cox's lead and also look at broader corrupt activities, such as the "White House Plumbers".[12] As it turned out, Jaworski also looked at broader corrupt activities.[13]

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
46. AGREE 1 million %!
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:15 PM
May 2017

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
108. I agree...but Trump will not be able to shut this down...Why?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:59 PM
May 2017

Too many involved, too much hate from Trump, who is a dump....t
and much too late.....
for Trump to get a date...
to shut this down,
Trump is a clown
That is all I have to say...
On this very day...................thank you...

Volaris

(11,704 posts)
129. Yep it begins.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:31 PM
May 2017

On the plus side I suppose, it IS only tuesday. That counts as Winning?

Soooooo much winning.
SO much.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
131. Here's how the New York Times reported it:
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:33 PM
May 2017

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
87. That's what I just told my boyfriend............
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:37 PM
May 2017

that same exact thing, as we ate dinner. My boyfriend is clueless when it comes to politics. He had to look at his voter registration card, to see what party he was registered to. To my dismay, as he hates Trump, he's a registered republican.

Well I digress, I and had to explain the Saturday Night Massacre to him.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. OMG! He's going to fire ANYONE and EVERYONE involved in the investigation and is unbiased.
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:58 PM
May 2017

He's shutting the investigation down, for all intents and purposes.

dalton99a

(94,115 posts)
5. Yep.
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:59 PM
May 2017

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
6. The Night of the Long Knives begins. nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:00 PM
May 2017

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
7. That will probably do him much more damage in the long run, because it
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:00 PM
May 2017

makes him look as guilty as he obviously is.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. All that matters is the official finding by the FBI. Not how it looks.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

History will state the official finding. It may mention that he fired Comey during the investigation, but there's no proof or indication in that, for historical purposes, that it was to get a desired result.

Just like the FBI's finding that HRC was not guilty of any crime, but the alt-right was convinced she was a criminal. All that really matters is the official finding.

Leith

(7,864 posts)
74. The Court of Public Opinion in the Short Run
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
May 2017

is going to explode in howls of glee and outrage. After all we've been through, I'll take it.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
97. Don't count your chickens yet.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:49 PM
May 2017

He'll probably have the new guy reopen the Clinton case while he's at it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
126. Oh, dear God, I hope not. I'd hate for her and the Dems to have to go thru that again.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:25 PM
May 2017

I think he probably won't. It would open up a can of worms.

Remember how he said he'd insist on the investigation being reopened on Day One? Once he won, not a word on that.

onethatcares

(16,992 posts)
23. trying to shut the investigation down
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

let's see which sycophant he appoints.

This is gonna get really interesting, more so than Watergate was by far.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
28. Hard to buy that line of reasoning though after the way Comey bent over backwards to rush to assist
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:10 PM
May 2017

Trump during the election.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
8. John Schindler, considered by some to be a significant political insider, is stunned.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:01 PM
May 2017

#Natsec columnist @observer, security consultant, author, provocateur, bon vivant, polyglot, counterintelligencer, cat guardian. Formerly NSA, NAVSECGRU, NWC.


John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 7m7 minutes ago
More
John Schindler Retweeted Reuters U.S. News
I am at a loss for words.

Though COUP comes to mind.John Schindler added,
Reuters U.S. NewsVerified account @ReutersUS
BREAKING: Trump has fired FBI Director Comey -White House
103 replies 476 retweets 631 likes

https://twitter.com/20committee

calimary

(90,021 posts)
36. Also - another Twitter source considered credible: Claude Taylor
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:12 PM
May 2017

Veteran of three presidential campaigns, served on White House staff (Clinton). Actively engaged in protecting and preserving our democracy.


Claude Taylor‏
@TrueFactsStated

Following
More
Comey is out-but it's too late. It's in the hands of the AUSA.




AUSA, as I understand it, stands for Assistant U.S. Attorney.

byronius

(7,973 posts)
9. That's what Traitors do.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:02 PM
May 2017

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
10. Twitter is abuzz to understate it
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

berksdem

(921 posts)
29. I really hope....
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

This is correct. I also think that Don the Con is literally untouchable in this government. The people need to be heard an this asshole needs to be shut down. I hope this is the beginning of the end but the Teflon Don is savvy​ at deflecting ...

I want nothing more than to see this asshole rot....

RegexReader

(428 posts)
124. hate to say it about twitter but
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

a post there is just a <redacted/> added to a tempest in a tea pot.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
11. Becoming more and more like Watergate - only worse
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:04 PM
May 2017

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
70. The Saturday Night Massacre didn't work too well for Nixon
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:26 PM
May 2017

Let's hope history repeats itself.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
12. Alot of people including myself were already having a hard time trusting the FBI because
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:04 PM
May 2017

of Comey coming to Trump's aid in his hour of need during the election so how are we supposed to trust them if Trump is the one nominating the new person to lead it when we don't trust Trump and think he might be in bed and beholden to a foreign country?

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
13. Lordy!
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:04 PM
May 2017

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
14. WTF?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:05 PM
May 2017

Part of me feels schadenfreude since Comey is the one responsible for Trump's presidency, so serves him right to be stabbed in the back by the guy he helped put in power.

On the other hand, this looks very bad for Trump - almost like he wants to close down that pesky Russia investigation.

Buying some popcorn...

madinmaryland

(65,729 posts)
25. I'm investing in Popcorn manufacturers. This could be big...
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:10 PM
May 2017

Auggie

(33,150 posts)
37. I'm going to need something stronger Mad
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:12 PM
May 2017

madinmaryland

(65,729 posts)
116. Hey Auggie!! Don't spend much time in the Sports Group,
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:07 PM
May 2017

and have not seen much of you on DU. Hope all is well.


Auggie

(33,150 posts)
118. I've been at REBELDEMS.COM ...
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:13 PM
May 2017

crying over our democracy and the San Francisco Giants. I saw your post and an opportunity to ask for something mind-numbing.

Stop by and say hi. You can even post about Them Cowboys!



TomJulie

(131 posts)
67. LOL!! Good One, Mad!!
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:25 PM
May 2017

I may join you. Popcorn munchies!!

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
44. But it would only be a temporary reprieve for anyone involved with the Russians as there
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:14 PM
May 2017

is no statute of limitations for treason so it doesnt make any sense to get rid of Comey especially since the help he provided to Trump during the last 2 weeks of the election probably helped tip the balance in Trumps favor.

Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
16. Self-serving comment from Trump included in this statement.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:08 PM
May 2017

From elleng's NY Times link:

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau,” Mr. Trump said in a letter to Mr. Comey dated Tuesday.

Dual purpose firing letter: fired Comey, then announced to the world that Comey told him three times the FBI didn't find anything on him to prosecute.

Kinda tacky, isn't it?

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
72. Tacky yes and it's not like Trump doesn't lie on a daily basis.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
May 2017

If Trump's comment isn't true or if Comey just told him that because he couldn't tell him the truth, can Comey legally just say something or testify as a whistle blower?

.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
105. It would almost certainly be classified.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:57 PM
May 2017

Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
111. That would be spectacular. He would become a cleaner man, in the process! n/t
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:01 PM
May 2017

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
19. Sick ! Bad !
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

Rebl2

(17,740 posts)
20. This makes him
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

look even more guilty! What's he going to do fire everyone at the FBI? He can't stop the Senate and House from doing their investigations.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
39. It sure made Nixon look very guilty in 1973. . . nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
May 2017

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
52. Big difference is though you probably could have gotten enough Repugnants on board back then to
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:18 PM
May 2017

do the right thing and support impeachment.
Now? I doubt enough of them even know anymore what the right thing is let alone know how to do it anymore.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
59. When they shift against tRump (and they will) it will be swift and massive.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:20 PM
May 2017

At some point, tRump becomes a liability to the Republicans and they will turn against him in a flash. Sudden precipitation.

Firing Comey brought that a lot closer.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
69. I doubt enough will shift to make a difference especially the leadership who seem ok to go along
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:26 PM
May 2017

with whatever Trump does or says as long as it means he will sign the bills they order him to sign when they order him to sign it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
75. McCONnell won't shift. He's involved & his wife was paid off with a cushy cabinet appointment.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:29 PM
May 2017

Ryan will probably jump ship, because he wants to take the Presidency in 2024.

For one thing, McCONnell blocked alerting state electoral commissions to the Russian hacking until it was too late for them to do anything about it.

byronius

(7,973 posts)
91. +1000
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:43 PM
May 2017

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
73. Both (republican controlled) Houses of Congress do not seem very enthused about investigating.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
May 2017

Both (republican controlled) Houses of Congress do not seem very enthused about investigating.

Delphinus

(12,522 posts)
125. No,
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

but how quickly have we seen the Senate and House investigating this? (Sorry, I'm anxious and really want his impeachment and the R's downfall to happen yesterday.)

Welcome to DU!

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
21. Holy crap. Biggest moment in last 100 years, along with Cuban Missile Crisis and Pearl Harbor
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

This is a key moment.

Comey is investigating the president, no matter what you think of last fall.

Make no mistake, this is a COVER UP.

Does the GOP in Congress fall in line?

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
34. Key. Hardly that big though. Ranks up with the Watergate Saturday Night Massacre though. . nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:12 PM
May 2017

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
47. This is the beginning of the end.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:15 PM
May 2017

Though I guess you're right the Sat Night Massacre was one month before "I am not a crook".


But a lot now rides on Dana Boente.
And Eric Schneiderman

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
55. I think its just behind the Night of the Long Knives. nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:19 PM
May 2017

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
64. That was internal Nazi business & people died.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:23 PM
May 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Firing Comey is national affairs and nobody has died so far.

Exaggerating the importance of this event devalues it.

This event is pivotal enough that it does not need hyperbolic exaggeration.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
65. Thats why I said just behind it rather than equal to it or worse. nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:24 PM
May 2017
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
24. Mafia presidency...
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

So when does he go full-circle and appoint one of his kids to run the FBI? And don't think for a second that this can't happen...

Auggie

(33,150 posts)
26. Can we convince the Senate to step-up it's investigation?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:10 PM
May 2017

It seems to be the one part of government in which people still wield some influence.

Turbineguy

(40,074 posts)
27. Will his replacement
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:10 PM
May 2017

still have a Russian accent?

I understand at their mole school they were taught accent-free English.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
81. Comey's replacement could be son-in-law Jared who will sell some visas to Russian lawyers to 'invest
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:32 PM
May 2017

Comey's replacement could be son-in-law Jared who will sell some visas to Russian lawyers to 'investigate'.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
30. MUST have an independant investigation! eom
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
31. Sessions recused himself from the investigation. Sessions dismissing Comey is not proper
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

... to say the least. Not proper by his own standard when he recused himself.

But of course that is a blip in the bigger picture. Might be a hook to yank Sessions out, though.

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
76. There's nothing in the article about Sessions. OP might be wrong about that. (n/t)
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:29 PM
May 2017

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
82. Perhaps, but Trumps letter says "upon the advice of AG Sessions"
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:32 PM
May 2017

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
86. tRump is so stupid he refers to himself and "under investigation" in the same sentence.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:37 PM
May 2017
... appreciate you informing me ... that I am not under investigation


That breaks one of the cardinal rules about framing issues.

[font size = "+1"]It's like Nixon saying "I am not a crook." Of course everybody immediately thinks he is a crook.[/font]

Do not think of an elephant.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
32. I lived in Miami during the seventies & eighties. As the cocaine dealers got more and more paranoid,
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

they'd start dismembering people in their crew, closer, closer, and closer to themselves.

This is Trump's murder spree. Closer, closer, and closer . . .

onethatcares

(16,992 posts)
35. I love History in the making
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:12 PM
May 2017

gives me a reason to live. Especially when it concerns people that want to kill our democracy getting their comeuppance.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
42. You're seeing history. Today, May 9th 2017, is a historic day.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:14 PM
May 2017

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
38. On the recommendations of Jeff Session the perjurer.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
May 2017

Nwgirl503

(406 posts)
40. It's getting to be time
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
May 2017

For us to start considering storming the gates.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
41. Don't forget--he also fired US attorney Preet Bharara, whose investigations
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
May 2017

might well have been moving toward looking into Trump's swamp--or might already have been doing so. Certainly he was already investigating Tom Price.

Bharara was investigating Trump cabinet member before he was sacked

Fired US Attorney Preet Bharara was investigating a key member of President Trump’s cabinet, a new report Friday revealed.

Bharara was looking into allegations that Tom Price, the health and human services secretary and the administration’s point man on efforts to repeal and replace ObamaCare, improperly traded health care stocks while he was a member of the House of Representatives, ProPublica reported.

SNIP

elleng

(141,926 posts)
60. Thanks for the reminder.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

MrPurple

(985 posts)
43. When Nixon tried to fire his special prosecutor (Archibald Cox), he faced backlash
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:14 PM
May 2017

A corrupt President being investigated by the FBI shouldn't have the power to dismiss the director. That post should be independent and require a formal impeachment proceeding.

This is a horrible situation now. Can you IMAGINE what the outcry would be if Hillary had won, Comey was still claiming to be investigating her emails and she dismissed him?

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
45. They are going after Hillary and Bill
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:15 PM
May 2017

You can bet your ass the next FBI director and Jeff Sessions will re-open the investigation into Hillary's emails and Bill's meeting with Loretta Lynch.

The firing of Comey is the first step to "lock her up!!"

Count on it.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
50. SH*T, I hope not but you're probably correct.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:18 PM
May 2017

RegexReader

(428 posts)
114. no doubt
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:03 PM
May 2017

that is the end game and to tie Chelsea to the Clinton Foundation to get a felony conviction on her to keep her out of public office.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
48. Woah. Are the Republican's going to turn this into a Constitutional Crisis?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:16 PM
May 2017

Allow Trump to do what he wants?

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
49. Our new FBI Director will probably be a set of Russian nesting dolls.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:17 PM
May 2017

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
51. Comey thought he could protect FBI & his job Oct. 2016 with the disgusting Hillary letter.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:18 PM
May 2017

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
79. He was playing Boy Scout in his head
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:31 PM
May 2017

Plus he didn't want to eat Republican crap for the duration of HRC's presidency. Then Trump wins, which he didn't expect, and he gets canned anyway. That part is funny.

RegexReader

(428 posts)
121. There is no stronger or more addictive narcotic
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:20 PM
May 2017

than that of self-delusionment.

 

FenwayDonkey

(68 posts)
53. Get Greta V. off the air*
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:19 PM
May 2017

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
54. C'mon FBI, CIA, start to leak everything and stop the madness
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:19 PM
May 2017

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
56. holy shit.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:20 PM
May 2017

All I can say.

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
57. Trump is partying like it's 1973.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:20 PM
May 2017

Time to impeach this son of a bitch.

no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
58. In the tradition of J. Edgar Hoover, of course Comey has files on Trump and family and company.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:20 PM
May 2017

Now Trump has to worry about his own WikiLeaks now that he fired Comey.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
66. and there has to be redundancy in the FBI, so we will see what happens
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:25 PM
May 2017

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
61. Hate to keep posting Twitter
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

especially from same account, but ....






Don't know what that means, "activity" .... records being seized, people
coming and going? Your guess as good or better ....
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
63. No tears shed from. Of course the bad news is he is going to put one of his cronies who will try to
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

destroy anything that links trump to Russia, but hopefully, there is redundancy at the FBI so he won't get away with it

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
68. Maybe they will say Comey lied to Hillary about the Weiner laptop email nonsense.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:26 PM
May 2017

Maybe tRump will say Hillary should have won and he will make her President.

{ ... snap ... wake up ... }

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
71. FReak site is cheering
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:27 PM
May 2017

There is no tolerance to traitors you horrible b*tch-man.

Comey needs to go to jail and face the rope

18 posted on 2017-05-09, 6:50:13 PM by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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47of74

(18,470 posts)
132. Rimjob land is still around?
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:37 PM
May 2017

I'd sooner visit PornHub than that place.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
77. There must be a reason beyond Comey's corruption
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:30 PM
May 2017

Corruption is a job requirement in the Trump White House. They wouldn't fire him JUST for being a crook, especially since everyone around Trump is a bigger crook than Comey is.

I can only think of two reasons Trump would do this: that Comey hasn't put Hillary Clinton in prison yet, or that Trump and Sessions think getting rid of Comey will keep him from coming down on Trump.

This plan is fraught with hazard: Comey hasn't put Hillary in prison because she hasn't done anything that would justify putting her there, and the problem with firing the guy who has the key to the closet with the skeletons in it...is they don't give the key back when they leave.

Trump knows he's fucked. Some of y'all have referenced the Saturday Night Massacre, but this is worse...because Trump's family is complicit in this scandal, Bernie Madoff would be a more accurate archetype than Richard Nixon. (Madoff may be closer than you think - the Trump Organization may actually be a ponzi scheme.)

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
78. Firing the person investigating Russiagate makes Trump look even more guilty. nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:31 PM
May 2017

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
88. especially without addressing the public...especially without apparent reason. If he had good
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:39 PM
May 2017

reason, you would think we'd be hearing about it before it even happened...to make it clear he's not at all doing it because he's buggy, desperate, panicked, and guilty as hell.

But...crickets, for some reason allowing all kinds of speculation. Maybe because speculation is not as bad as the truth? Something must be imminent.

RoccoRyg

(260 posts)
80. The Godfather IV
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:32 PM
May 2017

Stevie: Jimmy's gonna rat, boss. We gotta get rid of him.

(Donnie takes Jimmy to the lake on a boat.)

Donnie: You broke my heart, Jimmy.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
83. I need to apologize to President Nixon's family
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:34 PM
May 2017

for comparing him to a treasonous criminal like Trump

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
84. I don't care who did it. Comey got justice!!!
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:35 PM
May 2017


Now - just what IS the "Precedential Apprentice" up to?

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
94. Concur.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:47 PM
May 2017

Just got wind of it. Holy shit the stuff I learn on DU!

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
89. nixon all over again but this time on meth. nt
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:40 PM
May 2017

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
90. All of Trump's reasons for firing Comey existed at the time he asked Comey to stay on.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:42 PM
May 2017

All those things listed in Rosenstein's May 9, 2017 letter existed when Trump gave him that hug in January and said he had full confidence in him. So obviously THAT is not the reason.

So what changed? Comey's statements last week in which he confirmed that the FBI is investigating Trump's ties to Russia. But that reason was not in Rosenstein's letter. Just like Flynn's firing was based on made up reasons.

Like Yates, Comey was fired for not defending Trump. That shows that no one working under Trump can be trusted to investigate Trump.

The Comey firing is the most compelling reason yet for an independent commission to investigate Trump/Russia, and for an independent special counsel to decide whether and how to prosecute.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
92. Yes Yes Yes.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:45 PM
May 2017

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
93. It is past time for an independent prosecutor.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:47 PM
May 2017

Hopefully, after the health care bill fiasco, there are at least some GOP Congressmen who now realize that defending Trump and signing onto his initiatives is literally a no-win proposition when the time comes for reelection.

They need to step up and endorse an independent investigation into Trump's traitorous ways by someone he can't fire.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
95. I am waiting to hear Trump has chosen Sarah Palin to replace Comey
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:48 PM
May 2017

She's the best choice for a bigger fool to replace a bumbling fool.

steventh

(2,192 posts)
96. Rod Rosenstein memo
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:48 PM
May 2017

From the Deputy Attorney General entitled "Restoring Public Confidence in the FBI."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-rod-rosenstein-fbi-memo-20170509-htmlstory.html

Blames Comey in great detail for mishandling Hillary Clinton's email investigation.

Pretext. Diversion.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
99. Renaming the building for someone more worthy than Mary Hoover would help too.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:51 PM
May 2017

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
98. That's loyalty for you.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:50 PM
May 2017

For Father's Day, Comey should get a shirt that says: "I put Trump in the White House, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

ornotna

(11,482 posts)
100. They're in a panic now.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:52 PM
May 2017

Polonium laced tea in Comey's future perhaps?

UCmeNdc

(9,655 posts)
101. What the hell is going on?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:54 PM
May 2017

Did Comey have the evidence against Trump?

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
102. hahaha
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:55 PM
May 2017

Comey must have told Fuckump he is toast...

0rganism

(25,644 posts)
103. so how'd all that GOP appeasement work out for you, Mr. Comey?
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

looks like you lasted a bit less than 4 months into the presidency you helped install
nice going bub, really well done there

mtngirl47

(1,243 posts)
104. Light up the phones! Call EVERYONE and demand a special independant prosecuter!!!
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

funkybutt

(3,333 posts)
106. So Sessions (who has recused himself) recommended that Comey (who leads the investigation) be fired
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:57 PM
May 2017

That happened? right?

elleng

(141,926 posts)
109. Exactly.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:01 PM
May 2017
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
107. Well, most on both sides didnt think he should be there, so now he's NOT.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:59 PM
May 2017

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
110. Looks like a job for Jared.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:01 PM
May 2017

After all, he has Fridays open. He can refocus the FBI mission on making America great...again.

Thank you morans who elected this douche bag.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
113. I Wonder if Comey Sees the Irony
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:03 PM
May 2017

Comey lied about Hillary Clinton in a way that cost her the election, so Trump would win. Now Trump has fired Comey. Unless someone promised Comey a really great job or some such inducement in return, he sabotaged himself.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
115. My husband just left to make an ice cream run!
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:05 PM
May 2017

WOW! Glad I didn't have anything to go out and do, this evening!

RegexReader

(428 posts)
127. Sounds better than the beer runs
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:27 PM
May 2017

I made after Nov 8th.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
117. Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and now Comey. Three strikes, he should be out. Might be.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:08 PM
May 2017

The investigation is not going to stop.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
120. Right Right Right
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:17 PM
May 2017

underpants

(196,495 posts)
119. This is a move to kill/bury the investigations. Not a fan of Comey but lying can't possibly be the r
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:14 PM
May 2017

reason.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
122. The coup is moving right along on schedule. (and I'm not kidding.)
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:22 PM
May 2017

Whoever it is it will be a someone who will focus primarily on preventing any more investigating of Trump.

It really is a step by step coup.

pansypoo53219

(23,034 posts)
123. SMOKE & MIRRORS HUZZAH!
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
128. Noose must be Tightening!
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:28 PM
May 2017

Classic narcissistic personality disorder: Lash out when threatened. Now we're going to see whether our Republican *friends* are patriots or party apparatchiks.

NRaleighLiberal

(61,857 posts)
130. welcome to DU!
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:32 PM
May 2017

enid602

(9,685 posts)
133. Giuliani
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:38 PM
May 2017

So when does Rudy take the reins at the FBI..

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
134. Locking
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:40 PM
May 2017
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