F.B.I. Director Comey Is Fired by Trump.
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Source: nyt
President Trump has dismissed the director of the F.B.I., James B. Comey, on the recommendation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said on Tuesday.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/james-comey-fired-fbi.html?
Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)is OK with Trump and team, I see.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)tblue37
(68,436 posts)<iframe width="854" height="480" src="
" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[font size = "+2"]Will this be his Saturday Night Massacre?[/font]
usaf-vet
(7,811 posts)He is now a liability.
Out lived his usefulness.
berksdem
(921 posts)Absolutely correct....
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)RegexReader
(428 posts)but am betting that the thought has crossed his mind a time or two.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)supports the firing--officially. Very interesting. Normally I'd assume Rump should keep this dangerous adder close, but disassociation looks more like the move. Also, as said, likely Comey wasn't obstructing justice enough, new Russian connection "investigator" needed.
Had to laugh when I read about yet another falling out among thieves, though. So'd my husband when I just told him. Why am I remembering the Saturday Night Massacre when it's one man on a Tuesday?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)When Cox issued a subpoena to President Nixon, asking for copies of taped conversations recorded in the Oval Office and authorized by Nixon, the President initially refused to comply. On Friday, October 19, 1973, Nixon offered what was later known as the Stennis Compromiseasking the infamously hard-of-hearing Senator John C. Stennis of Mississippi to review and summarize the tapes for the special prosecutor's office. Cox refused the compromise that same evening and it was believed that there would be a short rest in the legal maneuvering while government offices were closed for the weekend.
However, on the following day (a Saturday) Nixon ordered Attorney General Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson refused, and resigned in protest. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus to fire Cox. He also refused and resigned.[4][5]
Nixon then ordered the Solicitor General, Robert Bork (as acting head of the Justice Department), to fire Cox. Both Richardson and Ruckelshaus had given personal assurances to Congressional oversight committees that they would not interfere, but Bork had not. Although Bork later claimed that he believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he still considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[6] Nevertheless, having been brought to the White House by limousine and sworn in as Acting Attorney General, Bork wrote the letter firing Cox.[7]
Note: Bork was nominated by Reagan to the Supreme Court and when he had to withdraw it lead to the term "being borked".
Impact and legacy
BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Too many involved, too much hate from Trump, who is a dump....t
and much too late.....
for Trump to get a date...
to shut this down,
Trump is a clown
That is all I have to say...
On this very day...................thank you...
Volaris
(11,704 posts)On the plus side I suppose, it IS only tuesday. That counts as Winning?
Soooooo much winning.
SO much.
NBachers
(19,438 posts)
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)that same exact thing, as we ate dinner. My boyfriend is clueless when it comes to politics. He had to look at his voter registration card, to see what party he was registered to. To my dismay, as he hates Trump, he's a registered republican.
Well I digress, I and had to explain the Saturday Night Massacre to him.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He's shutting the investigation down, for all intents and purposes.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)tblue37
(68,436 posts)makes him look as guilty as he obviously is.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)History will state the official finding. It may mention that he fired Comey during the investigation, but there's no proof or indication in that, for historical purposes, that it was to get a desired result.
Just like the FBI's finding that HRC was not guilty of any crime, but the alt-right was convinced she was a criminal. All that really matters is the official finding.
Leith
(7,864 posts)is going to explode in howls of glee and outrage. After all we've been through, I'll take it.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)He'll probably have the new guy reopen the Clinton case while he's at it.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I think he probably won't. It would open up a can of worms.
Remember how he said he'd insist on the investigation being reopened on Day One? Once he won, not a word on that.
onethatcares
(16,992 posts)let's see which sycophant he appoints.
This is gonna get really interesting, more so than Watergate was by far.
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)Trump during the election.
calimary
(90,021 posts)#Natsec columnist @observer, security consultant, author, provocateur, bon vivant, polyglot, counterintelligencer, cat guardian. Formerly NSA, NAVSECGRU, NWC.
John SchindlerVerified account @20committee 7m7 minutes ago
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John Schindler Retweeted Reuters U.S. News
I am at a loss for words.
Though COUP comes to mind.John Schindler added,
Reuters U.S. NewsVerified account @ReutersUS
BREAKING: Trump has fired FBI Director Comey -White House
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calimary
(90,021 posts)Veteran of three presidential campaigns, served on White House staff (Clinton). Actively engaged in protecting and preserving our democracy.
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Comey is out-but it's too late. It's in the hands of the AUSA.
AUSA, as I understand it, stands for Assistant U.S. Attorney.
byronius
(7,973 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,140 posts)berksdem
(921 posts)This is correct. I also think that Don the Con is literally untouchable in this government. The people need to be heard an this asshole needs to be shut down. I hope this is the beginning of the end but the Teflon Don is savvy at deflecting ...
I want nothing more than to see this asshole rot....
RegexReader
(428 posts)a post there is just a <redacted/> added to a tempest in a tea pot.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Let's hope history repeats itself.
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)of Comey coming to Trump's aid in his hour of need during the election so how are we supposed to trust them if Trump is the one nominating the new person to lead it when we don't trust Trump and think he might be in bed and beholden to a foreign country?
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Part of me feels schadenfreude since Comey is the one responsible for Trump's presidency, so serves him right to be stabbed in the back by the guy he helped put in power.
On the other hand, this looks very bad for Trump - almost like he wants to close down that pesky Russia investigation.
Buying some popcorn...
madinmaryland
(65,729 posts)Auggie
(33,150 posts)madinmaryland
(65,729 posts)and have not seen much of you on DU. Hope all is well.
Auggie
(33,150 posts)crying over our democracy and the San Francisco Giants. I saw your post and an opportunity to ask for something mind-numbing.
Stop by and say hi. You can even post about Them Cowboys!
TomJulie
(131 posts)I may join you. Popcorn munchies!!
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)is no statute of limitations for treason so it doesnt make any sense to get rid of Comey especially since the help he provided to Trump during the last 2 weeks of the election probably helped tip the balance in Trumps favor.
Judi Lynn
(164,124 posts)From elleng's NY Times link:
Dual purpose firing letter: fired Comey, then announced to the world that Comey told him three times the FBI didn't find anything on him to prosecute.
Kinda tacky, isn't it?
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)If Trump's comment isn't true or if Comey just told him that because he couldn't tell him the truth, can Comey legally just say something or testify as a whistle blower?
.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)Judi Lynn
(164,124 posts)Rebl2
(17,740 posts)look even more guilty! What's he going to do fire everyone at the FBI? He can't stop the Senate and House from doing their investigations.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)do the right thing and support impeachment.
Now? I doubt enough of them even know anymore what the right thing is let alone know how to do it anymore.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)At some point, tRump becomes a liability to the Republicans and they will turn against him in a flash. Sudden precipitation.
Firing Comey brought that a lot closer.
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)with whatever Trump does or says as long as it means he will sign the bills they order him to sign when they order him to sign it.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Ryan will probably jump ship, because he wants to take the Presidency in 2024.
For one thing, McCONnell blocked alerting state electoral commissions to the Russian hacking until it was too late for them to do anything about it.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Both (republican controlled) Houses of Congress do not seem very enthused about investigating.
but how quickly have we seen the Senate and House investigating this? (Sorry, I'm anxious and really want his impeachment and the R's downfall to happen yesterday.)
Welcome to DU!
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)This is a key moment.
Comey is investigating the president, no matter what you think of last fall.
Make no mistake, this is a COVER UP.
Does the GOP in Congress fall in line?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Though I guess you're right the Sat Night Massacre was one month before "I am not a crook".
But a lot now rides on Dana Boente.
And Eric Schneiderman
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
Firing Comey is national affairs and nobody has died so far.
Exaggerating the importance of this event devalues it.
This event is pivotal enough that it does not need hyperbolic exaggeration.
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)So when does he go full-circle and appoint one of his kids to run the FBI? And don't think for a second that this can't happen...
Auggie
(33,150 posts)It seems to be the one part of government in which people still wield some influence.
Turbineguy
(40,074 posts)still have a Russian accent?
I understand at their mole school they were taught accent-free English.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Comey's replacement could be son-in-law Jared who will sell some visas to Russian lawyers to 'investigate'.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)... to say the least. Not proper by his own standard when he recused himself.
But of course that is a blip in the bigger picture. Might be a hook to yank Sessions out, though.
thesquanderer
(13,006 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)That breaks one of the cardinal rules about framing issues.
[font size = "+1"]It's like Nixon saying "I am not a crook." Of course everybody immediately thinks he is a crook.[/font]
Do not think of an elephant.
NBachers
(19,438 posts)they'd start dismembering people in their crew, closer, closer, and closer to themselves.
This is Trump's murder spree. Closer, closer, and closer . . .
onethatcares
(16,992 posts)gives me a reason to live. Especially when it concerns people that want to kill our democracy getting their comeuppance.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Nwgirl503
(406 posts)For us to start considering storming the gates.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)might well have been moving toward looking into Trump's swamp--or might already have been doing so. Certainly he was already investigating Tom Price.
Fired US Attorney Preet Bharara was investigating a key member of President Trumps cabinet, a new report Friday revealed.
Bharara was looking into allegations that Tom Price, the health and human services secretary and the administrations point man on efforts to repeal and replace ObamaCare, improperly traded health care stocks while he was a member of the House of Representatives, ProPublica reported.
SNIP
elleng
(141,926 posts)MrPurple
(985 posts)A corrupt President being investigated by the FBI shouldn't have the power to dismiss the director. That post should be independent and require a formal impeachment proceeding.
This is a horrible situation now. Can you IMAGINE what the outcry would be if Hillary had won, Comey was still claiming to be investigating her emails and she dismissed him?
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)You can bet your ass the next FBI director and Jeff Sessions will re-open the investigation into Hillary's emails and Bill's meeting with Loretta Lynch.
The firing of Comey is the first step to "lock her up!!"
Count on it.
BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)RegexReader
(428 posts)that is the end game and to tie Chelsea to the Clinton Foundation to get a felony conviction on her to keep her out of public office.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)Allow Trump to do what he wants?
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)Plus he didn't want to eat Republican crap for the duration of HRC's presidency. Then Trump wins, which he didn't expect, and he gets canned anyway. That part is funny.
RegexReader
(428 posts)than that of self-delusionment.
FenwayDonkey
(68 posts)Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)All I can say.
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)Time to impeach this son of a bitch.
no_hypocrisy
(54,906 posts)Now Trump has to worry about his own WikiLeaks now that he fired Comey.
still_one
(98,883 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,140 posts)especially from same account, but ....
Link to tweet
Don't know what that means, "activity" .... records being seized, people
coming and going? Your guess as good or better ....
still_one
(98,883 posts)destroy anything that links trump to Russia, but hopefully, there is redundancy at the FBI so he won't get away with it
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Maybe tRump will say Hillary should have won and he will make her President.
{ ... snap ... wake up ... }
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Comey needs to go to jail and face the rope
18 posted on 2017-05-09, 6:50:13 PM by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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47of74
(18,470 posts)I'd sooner visit PornHub than that place.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Corruption is a job requirement in the Trump White House. They wouldn't fire him JUST for being a crook, especially since everyone around Trump is a bigger crook than Comey is.
I can only think of two reasons Trump would do this: that Comey hasn't put Hillary Clinton in prison yet, or that Trump and Sessions think getting rid of Comey will keep him from coming down on Trump.
This plan is fraught with hazard: Comey hasn't put Hillary in prison because she hasn't done anything that would justify putting her there, and the problem with firing the guy who has the key to the closet with the skeletons in it...is they don't give the key back when they leave.
Trump knows he's fucked. Some of y'all have referenced the Saturday Night Massacre, but this is worse...because Trump's family is complicit in this scandal, Bernie Madoff would be a more accurate archetype than Richard Nixon. (Madoff may be closer than you think - the Trump Organization may actually be a ponzi scheme.)
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)wiggs
(8,812 posts)reason, you would think we'd be hearing about it before it even happened...to make it clear he's not at all doing it because he's buggy, desperate, panicked, and guilty as hell.
But...crickets, for some reason allowing all kinds of speculation. Maybe because speculation is not as bad as the truth? Something must be imminent.
RoccoRyg
(260 posts)Stevie: Jimmy's gonna rat, boss. We gotta get rid of him.
(Donnie takes Jimmy to the lake on a boat.)
Donnie: You broke my heart, Jimmy.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)for comparing him to a treasonous criminal like Trump
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Now - just what IS the "Precedential Apprentice" up to?
ucrdem
(15,720 posts)Just got wind of it. Holy shit the stuff I learn on DU!
Javaman
(65,711 posts)SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)All those things listed in Rosenstein's May 9, 2017 letter existed when Trump gave him that hug in January and said he had full confidence in him. So obviously THAT is not the reason.
So what changed? Comey's statements last week in which he confirmed that the FBI is investigating Trump's ties to Russia. But that reason was not in Rosenstein's letter. Just like Flynn's firing was based on made up reasons.
Like Yates, Comey was fired for not defending Trump. That shows that no one working under Trump can be trusted to investigate Trump.
The Comey firing is the most compelling reason yet for an independent commission to investigate Trump/Russia, and for an independent special counsel to decide whether and how to prosecute.
LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)Hopefully, after the health care bill fiasco, there are at least some GOP Congressmen who now realize that defending Trump and signing onto his initiatives is literally a no-win proposition when the time comes for reelection.
They need to step up and endorse an independent investigation into Trump's traitorous ways by someone he can't fire.
mdbl
(8,650 posts)She's the best choice for a bigger fool to replace a bumbling fool.
steventh
(2,192 posts)From the Deputy Attorney General entitled "Restoring Public Confidence in the FBI."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-rod-rosenstein-fbi-memo-20170509-htmlstory.html
Blames Comey in great detail for mishandling Hillary Clinton's email investigation.
Pretext. Diversion.
tenorly
(2,037 posts)
tenorly
(2,037 posts)For Father's Day, Comey should get a shirt that says: "I put Trump in the White House, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."
ornotna
(11,482 posts)Polonium laced tea in Comey's future perhaps?
UCmeNdc
(9,655 posts)Did Comey have the evidence against Trump?
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Comey must have told Fuckump he is toast...
0rganism
(25,644 posts)looks like you lasted a bit less than 4 months into the presidency you helped install
nice going bub, really well done there
mtngirl47
(1,243 posts)funkybutt
(3,333 posts)That happened? right?
7962
(11,841 posts)JohnnyRingo
(20,870 posts)After all, he has Fridays open. He can refocus the FBI mission on making America great...again.
Thank you morans who elected this douche bag.
dlk
(13,247 posts)Comey lied about Hillary Clinton in a way that cost her the election, so Trump would win. Now Trump has fired Comey. Unless someone promised Comey a really great job or some such inducement in return, he sabotaged himself.
calimary
(90,021 posts)WOW! Glad I didn't have anything to go out and do, this evening!
RegexReader
(428 posts)I made after Nov 8th.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)The investigation is not going to stop.
elleng
(141,926 posts)underpants
(196,495 posts)reason.
Kablooie
(19,107 posts)Whoever it is it will be a someone who will focus primarily on preventing any more investigating of Trump.
It really is a step by step coup.
pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)Mad_Mongol
(86 posts)Classic narcissistic personality disorder: Lash out when threatened. Now we're going to see whether our Republican *friends* are patriots or party apparatchiks.
NRaleighLiberal
(61,857 posts)enid602
(9,685 posts)So when does Rudy take the reins at the FBI..
sarisataka
(22,695 posts)Dupe of this: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141770075