Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:24 AM May 2017

Trump warns Comey: Better hope there are no tapes of our meeting

Source: The Hill

President Trump on Friday morning issued a cryptic threat to fired FBI Director James Comey, amid a storm of media leaks contradicting the White House.

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press! Trump tweeted.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/333081-trump-warns-comey-better-hope-there-are-no-tapes-of-our-meeting



WTF???!!!!

He really has lost it--if he ever had it. Is he paranoid? Is he threatening to kill Comey? He's just ranting.[link:
||
91 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Trump warns Comey: Better hope there are no tapes of our meeting (Original Post) Julian Englis May 2017 OP
Seriously? ananda May 2017 #1
This is now the top story at CNN... Stuart G May 2017 #2
Not to mention - he is the PRESIDENT karynnj May 2017 #13
And his Russian friends like to poison people lunatica May 2017 #75
Russians don't poison people...with exceptions. displacedtexan May 2017 #78
Nit picker! lunatica May 2017 #82
Everything Trump does or says seems to be full of projection Sanity Claws May 2017 #3
Did tRump tape Scarsdale May 2017 #24
It does not matter if a tape actually was made at that time, a video can be created later LiberalArkie May 2017 #70
My lord PatSeg May 2017 #4
operative word here is bucolic_frolic May 2017 #5
I just wish Comey would "leak" all over trump, aka the master leaker John Miller (remember that?) George II May 2017 #6
Leak Scarsdale May 2017 #25
Recommended. H2O Man May 2017 #7
Nixon was smart enough not to let people know about the tapes himself HopeAgain May 2017 #33
Thought the same thing! DeminPennswoods May 2017 #45
Right. H2O Man May 2017 #55
The entire tweet storm is bizarre. He makes no sense. Julian Englis May 2017 #8
I see it as Wile E. Coyote (super genius) christx30 May 2017 #63
Is he going to call Erik Prince or his Mafia buddies? dalton99a May 2017 #9
Is he going to obliquely suggest that Russia hacks Comey and publishes "the tape"? forgotmylogin May 2017 #26
Just as Baby Bush showed lines are blurry between big business & big government... yurbud May 2017 #44
This one may do it, .. It could a few republicans out of the woodwork to publicly oppose Trump. Stuart G May 2017 #10
I think the threat is that Trump may have illegally taped Comey karynnj May 2017 #11
It can also be taken the other way, that trump thinks Comey may have taped it... brush May 2017 #32
If Trump had a tape, Soxfan58 May 2017 #67
Isn't that a violation of the law? Botany May 2017 #12
I think it is. Comey is a private citizen now OKNancy May 2017 #17
Trump is showing us all that he can commit any crime he likes, including blackmail. Towlie May 2017 #14
I remember that from Nixon! get the red out May 2017 #34
Like he said, he could shoot somebody tomorrow without any problem dalton99a May 2017 #46
If we get Congress in 2018, he's toast. Oneironaut May 2017 #87
No what Trump is showing us is that he is ignorant of the law. Egnever May 2017 #91
Psychotic Moron ThoughtCriminal May 2017 #15
Lost it.....totally! n/m machoneman May 2017 #16
Just because you are paranoid, safeinOhio May 2017 #18
That's it. I'm convinced Turbineguy May 2017 #19
lol!!! TalenaGor May 2017 #30
... and it appears to be continuing in a rapidly accelerating slide. Towlie May 2017 #49
I gotta remember this expression. So perfect!! nt Nay May 2017 #79
what?! barbtries May 2017 #20
Paging Alexander Butterfield. mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #21
I think taping (they don't use tape anymore, though) everything that goes on in the oval office... George II May 2017 #39
Digital. They have digital. What is digital? mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #60
I remember watching that moment on TV Wednesdays May 2017 #53
Should we start a separate thread stating our ages spiderpig May 2017 #22
I am Scarsdale May 2017 #28
You are my Mom's age get the red out May 2017 #35
Richard Nixon was a mere amusement compared to what we're now seeing every day. George II May 2017 #40
I'm 66 and clearly remember the Johnson-Goldwater campaign spiderpig May 2017 #89
I'm 65 and I thought NIXON was bad. Then Reagan. Then Bushie, now this Nay May 2017 #80
He's paranoid. He's threatening. He's guilty. Impeachment is called for. (nt) Paladin May 2017 #23
And he has the nuclear codes, and that's of course damn F'en scary. n/t RKP5637 May 2017 #54
Hey trmpf They_Live May 2017 #27
Trump has gone Full Scientology ... Never go Full Scientology Snake Plissken May 2017 #29
Good observation. klook May 2017 #88
he said "leak" Locrian May 2017 #31
Hey Sexual Predator have you found out what size orange jumpsuit turbinetree May 2017 #36
K&R uppityperson May 2017 #37
Only one thing for the FBI to do now R Merm May 2017 #38
Is this not extortion arlecchino May 2017 #41
Crazy идиот alert. awesomerwb May 2017 #42
He could be referring to conversations pre-election, too... meaning he could show Comey perjured JudyM May 2017 #43
That doesn't erase the threat tRump made, it still stands Wednesdays May 2017 #56
Of course. JudyM May 2017 #62
Et tu, Hair Fhrer! Grins May 2017 #47
On panelist on CNN seems to think it's set up DeminPennswoods May 2017 #48
Good analogy with the gumball machine! Silver Gaia May 2017 #71
The executive privilege argument got shot down 40-some years ago The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #77
How is all of these threats, dinners, firing not obstruction of justice? lancelyons May 2017 #50
Ok FBI..... dhill926 May 2017 #51
Lots of pro trumpers in the FBI SHRED May 2017 #59
That's what I'm hoping for. Paladin May 2017 #61
He is the King of America, he can do whatever he wants. Shell_Seas May 2017 #52
What will it take? SHRED May 2017 #57
Can he get Comey's pension cancelled? classykaren May 2017 #58
Hey, he's just being dump not fooled May 2017 #64
twisting and turnin bora13 May 2017 #65
So he asked if he was under investigation from the time he took office? And he called and asked mahina May 2017 #66
Recordings in the WH would be public records... Sancho May 2017 #68
And if there is one tape of one meeting.. You know there are more... LakeArenal May 2017 #85
That man needs to be put out of his misery and ours. Solly Mack May 2017 #69
THIS. Silver Gaia May 2017 #72
The madness of the man who would be king Mme. Defarge May 2017 #73
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Efilroft Sul May 2017 #74
Comey would never tape a meeting like that elmac May 2017 #76
Perhaps - but he would surely expect to be recorded... hexola May 2017 #83
Hey Trump, are threats gonna work on someone you've FIRED? Also "leaking" only FailureToCommunicate May 2017 #81
Any bets there are gaps on the "tapes"? Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #84
This man should be impeached for this alone. Oneironaut May 2017 #86
You can't hang a man by an MP3 file. sofa king May 2017 #90

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. This is now the top story at CNN...
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:27 AM
May 2017

Threatening someone is not legal, particularly a potential witness. (as has been said earlier)...This one tweet shows his lack of judgement. Threatening someone in public for all to see is not wise, and it is insane. I hope that a few republican senators agree. Just a few to get the ball rolling. 4 or 5 will do.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
13. Not to mention - he is the PRESIDENT
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:41 AM
May 2017

Someone with no power to do anything is less dangerous than someone with power doing so - and no one has more power than the President. I seriously do not remember even in the darkest days of Nixon an overt, public threat like this.

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
3. Everything Trump does or says seems to be full of projection
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:28 AM
May 2017

This tweet actually means that Trump is afraid of any such tapes because they would show his lying, etc.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
24. Did tRump tape
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:01 AM
May 2017

the conversation, and is implying that Comey is lying? You never can tell with Agent Orange. He WANTS to be Putin, but is not smart enough. Where is first lady/daughter Ivanka, the calming influence? Still hawking her wares overseas?

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
70. It does not matter if a tape actually was made at that time, a video can be created later
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:28 AM
May 2017

that would pass all tests.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
33. Nixon was smart enough not to let people know about the tapes himself
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:07 AM
May 2017

This tweet may someday be the basis for a subpoena!

H2O Man

(73,510 posts)
55. Right.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:51 AM
May 2017

If Trump was implying he had taped their conversations, he made a serious mistake.

I am curious if in his paranoid state of mind, Trump thinks that Comey taped him -- which he believes would "prove" that former President Obama et al were "wiretapping" him.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
63. I see it as Wile E. Coyote (super genius)
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:06 AM
May 2017

mixed with a mafia-wannabe mentality. Those pictures of his family in the gold adorned room. The demands for loyalty. The intimidation here is bordering on blackmail. "Keep your mouth shut if you don't want our conversation on the front page of The NY Times."
Who will leak first? The person with less to lose.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
44. Just as Baby Bush showed lines are blurry between big business & big government...
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:27 AM
May 2017

Trump is showing the lines are pretty damn blurry between big business and big crime.

In some areas of foreign policy like Afghanistan and Columbia, all three merge pretty seamlessly.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
10. This one may do it, .. It could a few republicans out of the woodwork to publicly oppose Trump.
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:36 AM
May 2017

He broke the law with this. Perhaps 2 or 3 of them in the senate will announce formal opposition to this nutcase. I hope so.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
11. I think the threat is that Trump may have illegally taped Comey
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:37 AM
May 2017

The threat would be either that he could prove Comey lied - if he does - or more cynically, if he speaks, Trump will have people cherry pick things from a tape that would make Comey look bad, possibly out of context.

This is so unpresidential it is head spinning. It sounds more like a tyrant.

brush

(53,743 posts)
32. It can also be taken the other way, that trump thinks Comey may have taped it...
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:07 AM
May 2017

secretly.

We all know he's an extremely paranoid MF.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
17. I think it is. Comey is a private citizen now
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:50 AM
May 2017

And even if there were tapes, I trust Comey's version of the truth so I would LOVE to hear them.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
14. Trump is showing us all that he can commit any crime he likes, including blackmail.
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:42 AM
May 2017

Nixon said, "If the president does it, then it's legal", and Trump seems to actually believe that.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
34. I remember that from Nixon!
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

My Dad went ape-shit over that! He couldn't believe even Nixon would say that. Trump is worse. At least Dad isn't seeing this.

dalton99a

(81,404 posts)
46. Like he said, he could shoot somebody tomorrow without any problem
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:31 AM
May 2017

AG Sessions: "We have determined it was an accident"

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
87. If we get Congress in 2018, he's toast.
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:36 PM
May 2017

Maybe sooner if Republicans had any integrity left, but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
91. No what Trump is showing us is that he is ignorant of the law.
Fri May 12, 2017, 04:44 PM
May 2017

And that he is more than willing to keep building the case against himself. The law does not react immediately it builds a case then hammers you all at once. They are more than willing to keep adding to the case until they are ready to bring it and trump just keeps pilling up his transgressions.

I will be amazed if one of the things he is taken down for is not his use of the presidency as a piggy bank to funnel funds into his own pockets through his trips to his golf courses. And of course this ill advised tweet.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
20. what?!
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:57 AM
May 2017

okay, i know it's been said before, but the president is not well. he is a very sick man. we need to get rid of him before the damage he does is irreversible.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,313 posts)
21. Paging Alexander Butterfield.
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:58 AM
May 2017

Why do I think James Comey is not the least bit scared?

Alexander Butterfield

Alexander Porter Butterfield (born April 6, 1926) is a retired U.S. military officer, public servant, and businessman. He served as the Deputy Assistant to President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973. He revealed the existence of White House taping system on July 13, 1973, during the Watergate scandal investigation, but had no involvement in the scandal. From 1973 to 1975, he served as Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration.
....

Revelation of the taping system

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. I think taping (they don't use tape anymore, though) everything that goes on in the oval office...
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:18 AM
May 2017

...has become SOP, partly because of their usefulness in the Watergate scandal.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,313 posts)
60. Digital. They have digital. What is digital?
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:57 AM
May 2017
It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be–”Sir, we’re staying with digital.”

I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.

Hat tip, Trump May Have Just Derailed A Crucial Part Of America's Future Aircraft Carrier Fleet and a thread at DU that links to that.

Wednesdays

(17,318 posts)
53. I remember watching that moment on TV
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:50 AM
May 2017

I was just a kid, but I could sense it was a turning point in the Watergate scandal.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
22. Should we start a separate thread stating our ages
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:59 AM
May 2017

and how we've never seen anything like this in our entire lives?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
28. I am
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:05 AM
May 2017

81 and have NEVER seen anything like this, not from a president. This clown needs to be in a padded room.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
35. You are my Mom's age
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:11 AM
May 2017

And she agrees with you!

I am 52 and I KNOW I haven't! This is more treasonous than Iran-Contra!

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
89. I'm 66 and clearly remember the Johnson-Goldwater campaign
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:02 PM
May 2017

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."

Our family thought Goldwater would plunge us into nuclear war. Remember his campaign slogan "in your heart you know he's right" and the Democratic response "in your guts you know he's nuts"?

Had we but known what would be squatting in the Oval Office today. BTW, Goldwater had quite a sense of humor and was an ardent conservationist.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
80. I'm 65 and I thought NIXON was bad. Then Reagan. Then Bushie, now this
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:34 PM
May 2017

MORON. I simply have no reference for this sort of slide into the insane asylum -- it has to be similar to the end of the Roman Empire.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
29. Trump has gone Full Scientology ... Never go Full Scientology
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:06 AM
May 2017

These are the same type of tactics Scientology uses against it's critics and they are just as ineffective.

They assume everyone is just as corrupt as they are, so they threaten to leak nonexistent data hoping that their critics are as terrified of their crimes being exposed as they are. Unfortunately for Trump and Scientology, their critics are not criminals like they are and have nothing to hide like they do, so their critics just laugh at these threats.

klook

(12,152 posts)
88. Good observation.
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:53 PM
May 2017

As you note, empty threats only work on someone who has debilitating secrets to hide -- or is powerless to withstand phony charges.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
36. Hey Sexual Predator have you found out what size orange jumpsuit
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:13 AM
May 2017

your about to wear, along with the others pad locked in the chain walk around the ankles, with Manafort, Flynn, Kusher, Page, Invanka, Spicer, Tillerson, Ross, Price, DeVos, Sessions, Ryan, Nunes, McConnell just for starters



You really are that paranoid, and if it was all up and up, during your "dinner", you have no problems right, because since you mentioned "tapes" that's a problem--------a big paranoid problem-------------



arlecchino

(7 posts)
41. Is this not extortion
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:19 AM
May 2017

He's attempting to obtain Comey's silence through threats.

He doesn't even have to follow through on the threat - it's been made, and the crime has been committed.

awesomerwb

(139 posts)
42. Crazy идиот alert.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:22 AM
May 2017

If there were any tapes it would mean nothing anyway. That's a thinly veiled threat. Not sure how far this идиот will go though.....

JudyM

(29,204 posts)
43. He could be referring to conversations pre-election, too... meaning he could show Comey perjured
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:24 AM
May 2017

himself when he testified about his motives in the October Wiener disclosure.

That vid of them greeting each other after the election seemed like they'd previously discussed it... they seemed to be signaling personal acknowledgement of a prior communication, IMO. Comey, especially, acted like, yeah, we know I made this happen, glad to be recognized.

Wednesdays

(17,318 posts)
56. That doesn't erase the threat tRump made, it still stands
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:55 AM
May 2017

If Comey goes down in flames, it doesn't exonerate Trump one bit.

Grins

(7,199 posts)
47. Et tu, Hair Fhrer!
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:32 AM
May 2017

Works both ways.

But if it exists, and if the Twittler Hitler releases it, and if it proves Comey was right - the media will report it, there will be huffing and puffing and the rending of garments, and then - not a damn thing.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
48. On panelist on CNN seems to think it's set up
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:33 AM
May 2017

for Trump to claim executive privilege to keep Comey from testifying, but Trump repeatedly has shown he doesn't think ahead any farther than the end of his nose, if that far. I think this stuff was just rattling around in his brain and this is what popped out. Like a gumball machine, the next flavor gumball just comes out whether one wanted that flavor or not.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
77. The executive privilege argument got shot down 40-some years ago
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:23 PM
May 2017

when the Supreme Court made Nixon turn over his secret tapes.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
50. How is all of these threats, dinners, firing not obstruction of justice?
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:42 AM
May 2017

I am literally blown away how these threats, meetings, pledging loyalty, firing of comey not Obstruction of Justice.

This literally blows my mind how low the bar has become.

The GOP and Trump seem to not care about laws at all.

How do we combat this scenario when they are constant liars, threatening, obstruction, etc, etc.. Then when they think Hillary lied they have hearing after hearing.

The world is changing.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
61. That's what I'm hoping for.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:58 AM
May 2017

I would imagine that a number of FBI agents have some hugely damaging details on trump, things that could bring his presidency to a merciful ending. If trump and sessions continue to fuck with the bureau, I hope some really devastating stuff appears.

Shell_Seas

(3,329 posts)
52. He is the King of America, he can do whatever he wants.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:45 AM
May 2017

Threaten private citizens.
Get rid of investigations.
Collude with foreign powers.
Violate the constitution.

Absolutely whatever he wants. After all, he is the King.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
64. Hey, he's just being dump
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:08 AM
May 2017

After all, thugs gotta do their thuggery.

He has spent his entire life threatening and bullying others in order to get his way.

Why should he stop now?

Just another periodic thuggery eruption.






bora13

(860 posts)
65. twisting and turnin
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:12 AM
May 2017

everything this guy does is to impress putin the bear and his flyover freak followers.

mahina

(17,622 posts)
66. So he asked if he was under investigation from the time he took office? And he called and asked
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:13 AM
May 2017

Two other unknown times, which could have been very early too?

So he's been worried about being under investigation the whole time?

I bet he is!

Loon.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
68. Recordings in the WH would be public records...
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:13 AM
May 2017

so they would eventually be subject to subpoena or FOIA unless classified.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
85. And if there is one tape of one meeting.. You know there are more...
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:34 PM
May 2017

Dump is the one to worry about presidential tapes....

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
69. That man needs to be put out of his misery and ours.
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:18 AM
May 2017

And by that I mean he seriously needs help and if his family actually gave a fuck about him, they'd get him the help he needs.

I don't give a fuck if he implodes beyond repair, but the danger he presents to the nation grows each passing day.

Silver Gaia

(4,541 posts)
72. THIS.
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:50 AM
May 2017

He is very ill, and is a​ danger to himself and others. In this case, "others" means the entire world. He needs to go before the damage is irreversible.

Mme. Defarge

(8,014 posts)
73. The madness of the man who would be king
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:59 AM
May 2017

"So why did he do it? Now we know: The king asked whether no one would rid him of this troublesome priest, and got so impatient he did it himself."

I don't usually read Krauthammer but the title of today's column got my attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-political-ax-murder/2017/05/11/8189f73a-3671-11e7-b4ee-434b6d506b37_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
76. Comey would never tape a meeting like that
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:22 PM
May 2017

tRump would. Comey, though politically screwed up, seems to follow the letter of the law to the extreme. tRump goes out of his way to break laws.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
83. Perhaps - but he would surely expect to be recorded...
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:19 PM
May 2017

Being in that line of work - he would have assumed it was all recorded - off the record or on...

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
81. Hey Trump, are threats gonna work on someone you've FIRED? Also "leaking" only
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:53 PM
May 2017

applies if you are STILL PART OF AN ORGANIZATION.

As a private citizen, is Comey bound by any specific ethics pledges after termination from FBI?

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
86. This man should be impeached for this alone.
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:34 PM
May 2017

He's tarring the dignity of the office. Pence may be a fundie, but at least he has principles.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Trump warns Comey: Better...