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brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:46 AM May 2017

Lawyer: Trump Had No Income From Russians, With Exceptions

Source: NBC Washington

President Donald Trump's lawyers say a review of his last 10 years of tax returns do not reflect "any income of any type from Russian sources," with some exceptions.

The lawyers did not release copies of Trump's tax returns so The Associated Press cannot independently verify their conclusions.

The letter says there is no equity investment by Russians in entities controlled by Trump or debt owed by Trump to Russian lenders. It does reflect income from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant held in Moscow and a property sold to a Russian billionaire in 2008 for $95 million.

The White House says Trump asked his lawyers for a letter following a request from Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who heads one of the congressional committees investigating Russia's interference in last year's election.


Read more: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Trump-Lawyer-Talks-Tax-Returns-Russian-Sources-422096413.html



Question: If Comey said (three times!) that Trump wasn't under investigation regarding Russia, why did he need to make a statement about his income?
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Lawyer: Trump Had No Income From Russians, With Exceptions (Original Post) brooklynite May 2017 OP
Well, alrighty then PatSeg May 2017 #1
Charlie Brown: "WOW! It's a SIGNED DOCUMENT!" lastlib May 2017 #19
Who does he think he's fooling? PatSeg May 2017 #24
Changed into his lawyer suit... Wounded Bear May 2017 #2
Exactly underpants May 2017 #3
nothing like a free 25k A MONTH apartment in NYC 5th ave trump tower in exchange for "services' Sunlei May 2017 #10
tRump's* sister Wawannabe May 2017 #33
So Eric and Donnie Jr. we're both lying? underpants May 2017 #4
Notice, he said no income and not that he did not receive any funds. R Merm May 2017 #5
Also that the returns "do not reflect income" More_Cowbell May 2017 #14
Exactly! LisaM May 2017 #30
What this means is the money came for Cyprian, German, Cayman, etc. accounts controlled by Russians Julian Englis May 2017 #6
Right? Wawannabe May 2017 #35
Do any criminals list criminal stuff on their income tax forms? Sunlei May 2017 #7
They should jberryhill May 2017 #29
This Wawannabe May 2017 #36
No, seriously, you should jberryhill May 2017 #39
Thanks! Wawannabe May 2017 #40
"Other income" jberryhill May 2017 #41
K Wawannabe May 2017 #42
Well, are you going to itemize deductions? jberryhill May 2017 #43
$ Wawannabe May 2017 #47
WAIT - my wife reminded me - the gun is capital equipment jberryhill May 2017 #49
Perhaps donnie should have a talk with his sons, who said they DID have a lot of money.... George II May 2017 #8
Let us see Wawannabe May 2017 #37
"with some exceptions" Erick the Read May 2017 #9
Exceptions such as... meow2u3 May 2017 #25
That's because he's not counting the Russian money he got laundered through Deutsche bank. pnwmom May 2017 #11
And what about not fooled May 2017 #12
If something is a loan, is it "income" treestar May 2017 #13
No, a loan is not income. The cash becomes an untaxed asset & the loan int. is a debt. 7962 May 2017 #17
Lawyer: My Client Never Committed Any Crimes, With Exceptions dalton99a May 2017 #15
Loans and investment into trump businesses are not income joeybee12 May 2017 #16
Just put that in a neat little pile for shit to use against him later chelsea0011 May 2017 #18
Yeah sure kimbutgar May 2017 #20
Here is the certified letter. Investigation is over. mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #21
Depends how you define "Russians", esp after money is washed in multitudes of numbered companies.nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #22
Re your Question: Your premise is false. Comey did not say that once, let alone three times. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #23
Shell companies. bettyellen May 2017 #26
So much for his returns being under audit. mindem May 2017 #27
Yeah... Pfft! Show us his taxes &.absolute proof or it's just more of Trump's LIES. nt WePurrsevere May 2017 #28
"With exceptions"???? Lifelong Protester May 2017 #31
That's exactly what I put on my taxes marylandblue May 2017 #32
I fully trust Trump's lawyer from the law firm that was 'Russia Law Firm of the Year' Feathery Scout May 2017 #34
And Trump was a success in Atlantic City whistler162 May 2017 #38
It's not "income" that is at issue. It's financing. Vinca May 2017 #44
Ding Ding Ding. NewRedDawn May 2017 #48
'income'. loansmoney laundering. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #45
Alternate headline: Trump Had Income From Russians Bradical79 May 2017 #46

lastlib

(23,213 posts)
19. Charlie Brown: "WOW! It's a SIGNED DOCUMENT!"
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:29 PM
May 2017

Lucy: "Peculiar thing about that signed document--it was never notarized."

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
6. What this means is the money came for Cyprian, German, Cayman, etc. accounts controlled by Russians
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:06 AM
May 2017

How dumb do these people think we are?

Pretty dumb--as some people still support Trump.

Wawannabe

(5,641 posts)
35. Right?
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:59 PM
May 2017

When laundered money changes hands it sure as hell doesn't come with a receipt of ORIGIN! Bwaaahaaaahaaa!

Wawannabe

(5,641 posts)
36. This
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:01 PM
May 2017

Made me laugh a little hysterically. I do not know why but it just hit my funny bone. I think I AM going batshit!!!!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
39. No, seriously, you should
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:16 PM
May 2017

If you do something illegal, and list the income on your tax return as "other income", then you MIGHT be able to beat the criminal charge on some other grounds, but you are NOT going to beat the tax evasion charge.

As evidence in the criminal case, the tax form can be excluded under the 5th Amendment. But that doesn't apply when the charge is falsifying your return in the first place.

That's how they got Al Capone.

Wawannabe

(5,641 posts)
40. Thanks!
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:31 PM
May 2017

I'll remember this when I go Capone next time!

Should I make up the detail tho???
Lemonade stand?
Garage sale?
Masseuse services rendered?
Wildflower seed sales?

And yes I am also serious. This is need to know shit. In case. Right?

Wawannabe

(5,641 posts)
42. K
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:37 PM
May 2017

Slow but sure.
Have dine my own taxes but been awhile. I was thinking you had to include short detail.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
43. Well, are you going to itemize deductions?
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:44 PM
May 2017

I mean, if I only got $400 for muggings and spent $300 on the gun, I might want to itemize that.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
49. WAIT - my wife reminded me - the gun is capital equipment
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:21 PM
May 2017

Instead of expensing it, you might want to depreciate it over whatever is the schedule for Saturday Night Specials.

You can deduct ammunition expenses up to the amount actually fired in your fiscal year.

Issue 1099's to your lookouts, though, for sure.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Perhaps donnie should have a talk with his sons, who said they DID have a lot of money....
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:22 AM
May 2017

...coming in from Russia.

Can't they get their stories straight?

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
11. That's because he's not counting the Russian money he got laundered through Deutsche bank.
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:24 AM
May 2017

Even though Deutsche had to sue him in 2008 because he was refusing to pay his loan - -- they finally settled -- the private wealth side of Deutsche gave him new loans in subsequent years when no other banks would.

Where did the private wealth money come from and why were they willing to lend it to DT? Was it part of the Russian funds that Deutsche was shown to have laundered for Russians?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/16/deutsche-bank-examined-trump-account-for-russia-links

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
12. And what about
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

any dump entities controlled by the con family? Maybe there are additional corps that don't necessarily show on the con's returns but are in the names of other dump crime family members? Iwanna and Jarhead, for example? Or Uday and Kusay?

Besides, show us the returns, not a dump stooge's take on the returns.



 

7962

(11,841 posts)
17. No, a loan is not income. The cash becomes an untaxed asset & the loan int. is a debt.
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:07 PM
May 2017

think of borrowing against a property;thats how you get equity out without it being taxable.
Borrow 30k against a paid off rental property. Your rent received pays the debt payment, the rent is also whats reported as "income". The 30K counts as nothing to the IRS.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
16. Loans and investment into trump businesses are not income
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:58 AM
May 2017

Jebus, if a non-finance guy like me can easily call BS, how lame is this letter?

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
20. Yeah sure
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:36 PM
May 2017

That argument might work in his private businesss but he is scrotus and no letter will exonerate him when the truth emerges.

He should release his taxes then.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
32. That's exactly what I put on my taxes
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:53 PM
May 2017

I didn't owe any tax because I had no choice ncome this year, with exceptions. Fortunatelt IRs is being cut so there is nobody.there to check.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
44. It's not "income" that is at issue. It's financing.
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

Is the Russian mob underwriting the Trump empire?? American banks haven't wanted to deal with him because bankruptcy is a sure thing based on past history.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
46. Alternate headline: Trump Had Income From Russians
Fri May 12, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

When his lawyer said "with exceptions" and signs it, that's an admition of taxable income from Russia, lol.

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