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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Fri May 12, 2017, 09:56 PM May 2017

Trump: Comey should have never exonerated Clinton

Source: MSN/The Hill

President Trump says that former FBI Director James Comey "should have never exonerated" Hillary Clinton.

"No, what happened, he had a lot of pressure put on and he exonerated her," he said Friday on "NBC Nightly News." "Should have never exonerated her."

Comey was the public face of the FBI's investigation into Clinton last year. Once he took office, Trump kept Comey on as head of the FBI but fired him earlier this week.

Trump added that the FBI's probe of Clinton's private email server helped him during the 2016 presidential election.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-comey-%E2%80%98should-have-never-exonerated%E2%80%99-clinton/ar-BBB4GRQ



Doesn't this contradict the written rationale for firing Comey that he did not treat Hillary as a candidate fairly?
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Trump: Comey should have never exonerated Clinton (Original Post) TomCADem May 2017 OP
Lsos is just barking at his hounds randr May 2017 #1
Exonerated cause she's not guilty of anything goober onit2day May 2017 #37
In Trumpland........ SergeStorms May 2017 #38
This does contradict the rationale for firing Comey. WTF is going on. Mrs. Overall May 2017 #2
He already contradicted himself in interview with Lester Holt. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #8
"rationale" - Did you know that Trump invented that word a few weeks ago? jberryhill May 2017 #54
I Hope that is rhetorical, what is going on is he is a pathological liar and international criminal. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #55
Just keep digging. Solly Mack May 2017 #3
25th Amendment time spiderpig May 2017 #4
Aye but what sucks is we get Pence as President then cstanleytech May 2017 #14
Yeah. Pence is Trump's kevlar vest (speaking metaphorically, Agent Mike). spiderpig May 2017 #15
Almost the entire list of who would become President if Trump is removed is a whos who of vomit. nt cstanleytech May 2017 #20
How do you spell eye-yi-yi? spiderpig May 2017 #21
Actually they ended up with Tom Kirkman who isnt anything like Jack Bauer cstanleytech May 2017 #26
I originally typed in Kiefer Sutherland, but in our house he's always Jack Bauer. spiderpig May 2017 #34
The whole line of succesion is involved. NewRedDawn May 2017 #39
You're right that it contradicts one of the excuses he tossed out. WePurrsevere May 2017 #5
He just can't stop himself, can he? Chemisse May 2017 #6
Distraction Lithos May 2017 #9
So Dipstick Donnie still wants to lock her up. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #7
That will be difficult to achieve since her defense would have some big guns like cstanleytech May 2017 #18
Trump wants his ten pounds of flesh. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #24
What we want in life is not necessarily what we will get and the cstanleytech May 2017 #27
Or Putin feels cheated and is still looking for his 10 pounds of Clinton flesh. WheelWalker May 2017 #28
Understand the Fake News people over at the Fake News Channel, Wellstone ruled May 2017 #32
This is his way of signaling the depolrables that if the law wont take out hillary and the liberals Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #56
Trump will make a run at Hillary. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #59
It is part of the misdirection they have planned. Now the PROPER Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #64
We are still seeing the after effects of Wellstone ruled May 2017 #65
Naw, I think he just wants to keep his base riled up n/t moonscape May 2017 #58
Double messages are a propaganda technique of abuse and control bucolic_frolic May 2017 #10
I wouldnt believe Donald Trump if his tongue were notarized. Warpy May 2017 #11
I think the truer story though is that Trump is batshit delusional and needs to be in cstanleytech May 2017 #22
Yep! I read all of this as he's really losing it. The man is not well, and it's getting worse! n/t RKP5637 May 2017 #57
When everyone was interpreting that narrative NewRedDawn May 2017 #12
Washing The Smell Grassy Knoll May 2017 #13
Trump will never get over the fact that Hillary recieved 3,000,000 more votes than him Snake Plissken May 2017 #16
Trump will never get over the fact that a chick kicked his ass. librechik May 2017 #40
It literally consumes him, not a day goes by when he doesn't bring it up. Snake Plissken May 2017 #41
All about feeding his base. He could moonscape May 2017 #17
True. Flash back to December 2016 forgotmylogin May 2017 #33
Mostly contradicts earlier versions of rationale. Certainly skips true reason & muddies the waters. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #19
Actually, he's right on this one. There was nothing to exonerate her of. StevieM May 2017 #23
Exactly, frankly I think Comey saved the Repugnants from a hell of alot of embarrassment cstanleytech May 2017 #29
So now the talking yam.is also a lawyer, a prosecutor, and a judge. He knows sinkingfeeling May 2017 #25
Trump can not remember from one statement to the next of what he says or gives Thinkingabout May 2017 #30
More projection erpowers May 2017 #31
No reason to spend time Eko May 2017 #35
I'm not sure where people got the idea that the 'exoneration' of Clinton wasn't part of the ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #36
You Must Be Reading The Wrong Memo. Memo Criticizes Comey's Disclosures... TomCADem May 2017 #62
Don't be surprised if the new FBI director's first two acts are shutting down the Russia briv1016 May 2017 #42
He will then oversee mass resignations, or else an insurrection. TREASON WinkyDink May 2017 #44
You really think Donald cares if some "Obama spies" leave? briv1016 May 2017 #45
"He" refers to the new FBI Director in the post I replied to. By "insurrection" I mean a refusal by WinkyDink May 2017 #46
Well that "he" is going to be a Trump appointee that has sure as hell taken his loyalty pledge briv1016 May 2017 #47
They've been mum because they've had no reason yet not to be. As for the other: You've heard of WinkyDink May 2017 #48
Yes but Henry didn't have the power to fire Becket and had not just fired his predecessor. briv1016 May 2017 #49
Trump started out knowing he was lying about HRC, but now I think he believes the lies. WinkyDink May 2017 #43
And the New Jersey gaming commission should never have allowed Trump to only pay a Vinca May 2017 #50
This is him trying for support from his base. He still doesn't get the math of the presidency. Squinch May 2017 #51
For the (always changing) record, he said he didn't care anymore BeyondGeography May 2017 #52
This is his dog whistle to the deplorables that she has to be indicted or they Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #53
A Distraction As To Why Comey Was Really Fired Corey_Baker08 May 2017 #60
Hey look over there madokie May 2017 #61
like Hannibal Lecter saying someone should be prosecuted for spitting on the sidewalk. yurbud May 2017 #63

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
38. In Trumpland........
Sat May 13, 2017, 05:08 AM
May 2017

that makes no difference. When he surrounds himself with yes men/women he creates his own reality. There's no basis in fact, but that doesn't concern him. Only HIS rules apply in Trumpland, and in Trumpland, Hillary is guilty of breaking numerous Trumpland laws.

When Trumpland and reality collide, that's when the problems start. Problems have been starting quite regularly lately, and Little Donnie's little mind is having a shitload of trouble processing the disconnect between Trump-reality and actual reality. He's used to getting his own way, but in reality that's not happening. He's discovering that Presidentin' is hard work, especially when people insist he dwell in the real world, and not in Trumpland.

Welcome to DU, by the way!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. He already contradicted himself in interview with Lester Holt.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:06 PM
May 2017

He said he was going to fire Comey, anyway, before the AG and Deputy AG sent their "recommendations," because he needed the Russian thing to stop.

Yes, that's what he said, believe it or not.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
15. Yeah. Pence is Trump's kevlar vest (speaking metaphorically, Agent Mike).
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:35 PM
May 2017

If Pence is complicit in all this, could we have a twofer?

Incompetent and crooked.

Oh, that's right - that leaves Ryan.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
21. How do you spell eye-yi-yi?
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:42 PM
May 2017

We are so screwn. At least on the TV show Designated Survivor they ended up with Jack Bauer.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
26. Actually they ended up with Tom Kirkman who isnt anything like Jack Bauer
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:53 PM
May 2017

except that they are both played by the same actor.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
34. I originally typed in Kiefer Sutherland, but in our house he's always Jack Bauer.
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:30 PM
May 2017

Even if he plays Santa Claus!

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
5. You're right that it contradicts one of the excuses he tossed out.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:04 PM
May 2017

When you lie as much as he does and you have memory issues on top of it, it's almost impossible to keep track of all the crap you spew.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
6. He just can't stop himself, can he?
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:05 PM
May 2017

He's floundering about in childish rage because this story is just persisting.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
18. That will be difficult to achieve since her defense would have some big guns like
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:38 PM
May 2017

Comeys video taped press briefing not to mention they can then play it up as political persecution egged on by the President (which it clearly would be) and that should sink any case against her faster than Dennis Hastert sunk to his knees in those shower stalls.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
24. Trump wants his ten pounds of flesh.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:50 PM
May 2017

This Guy always screws his opponents ten times over. He will push this issue in order to take the focus of himself.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
27. What we want in life is not necessarily what we will get and the
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:54 PM
May 2017

President has zero control over the judiciary other than in nominating some of the justices for some of the courts.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. Understand the Fake News people over at the Fake News Channel,
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:26 PM
May 2017

are demanding Hillary Clinton be tried and locked up. Trump and Murdoch are on the same page. This will not go away watch and see,Trump keeps wanting to go there,and if it captures the News Cycle for him like the Comey threats today,you just know he will go there.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
56. This is his way of signaling the depolrables that if the law wont take out hillary and the liberals
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:50 PM
May 2017

all 60 million of us, they need to.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
59. Trump will make a run at Hillary.
Sun May 14, 2017, 09:38 PM
May 2017

He promised and we know he does his best to carry through. This is not going away. Sessions will be the first to move. Never count out Stupid.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
64. It is part of the misdirection they have planned. Now the PROPER
Mon May 15, 2017, 12:45 PM
May 2017

response from the American people would be

No, you will not do that, if you do that, there will be a problem...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
65. We are still seeing the after effects of
Mon May 15, 2017, 12:52 PM
May 2017

Jerry Ford doing his pardon of Nixon. During the Carter Campaign,a Republican State Senator made this statement during his Campaign for reelection in front of our Teamster State Convention,the Democrats took one of our Guy's out,and we will take one of theirs. Never ever forget that statement,and it has shown to be so true since.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
10. Double messages are a propaganda technique of abuse and control
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:08 PM
May 2017

Something big is coming down the pike at some point.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
11. I wouldnt believe Donald Trump if his tongue were notarized.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:09 PM
May 2017

This is attributed to various people in NYC in the 80s so it was probably one of those things said by all who knew him.

Truer words were never spoken. He lies. He lies when telling the truth would be more advantageous. He lies because it's pathological--he has to. It makes him feel like he's smarter than the people he lies to.

Also remember he didn't write the written rationale and probably didn't read it, either.

The only story that rings at all true is that Comey wasn't considered sufficiently loyal.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
22. I think the truer story though is that Trump is batshit delusional and needs to be in
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:43 PM
May 2017

a nice padded room pronto with lots of medication before he really manages to hurt someone.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
12. When everyone was interpreting that narrative
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:11 PM
May 2017

I didn't. I knew the vindictive fuck was mad at Comey for not" locking her up" and that Comey did not suck his little dick hard enough. Plus he knew the heat was coming from the investigation against him & his traitor collaborators. And this owl eyed little fucker Rosenstein that Dems were singing the praises of and voted almost lockstep with the Putin Publikkkans. I saw him as a bootlicking opportunist traitor. Rosenstein's actions since the firing have proven me right. I don't trust this McCabe snake either. He was involved in the Nunes shit about the fake shit of unmasking by Susan Rice. You just watch.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
16. Trump will never get over the fact that Hillary recieved 3,000,000 more votes than him
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:38 PM
May 2017

He brings up the electoral vote every day.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
40. Trump will never get over the fact that a chick kicked his ass.
Sat May 13, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

He keeps making excuses for himself. "The dog ate my popular vote!"

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
41. It literally consumes him, not a day goes by when he doesn't bring it up.
Sat May 13, 2017, 10:24 AM
May 2017

He knows most people do not consider him to be a legitimate President, because he himself would never consider someone who lost the popular vote to be legitimate

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
33. True. Flash back to December 2016
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:30 PM
May 2017
Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Friday he doesn't care about prosecuting Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, after attendees at his rally chanted "lock her up."

After the chants started at the President-elect's post-election "thank you" rally in Michigan, he responded, "That plays great before the election -- now we don't care, right?"


http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-lock-her-up-chant/

Trump is just absolutely stupid and a frond that bends with the breeze that doesn't care to tactfully shut up and move on, or he seriously doesn't remember the last version of what he said due to some kind of willful or unconscious mental problem.

Veritophobia is a word for fear of the truth. Likely he's just learned to tell the particular person in front of him at any given time what they want to hear to best get what he wants. In his advanced age, he's not very good at it anymore.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,994 posts)
19. Mostly contradicts earlier versions of rationale. Certainly skips true reason & muddies the waters.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:39 PM
May 2017

The firing rationale (before the script got rewritten twice) was that Comey never should have sent the letter stating he was reopening the investigation of Hillary Clinton. As we know, that was unfair (to say the least) to her. tRump was glad (and remains glad) that it was reopened.

Here tRump is stating that Comey should never have closed the investigation without charging her. By claiming here that he exonerated her because of caving to pressure (a ridiculous assertion) he is strongly implying that the exoneration was the rationale for firing Comey.

It mostly contradicts the pre-rewrite rationale version 1.0 (Rosenstein's letter) and tries to muddy the water for those not following closely and give Fox news something to push (like a drug pusher): "but but but the emails!". No mention of Pence and Bannon's email issues.

This would be rationale 4.0. Huckabee pushed 2.0 and Spicer pushed 2.5 and tRump earlier in the day (or Thursday?) pushed 3.0.

It's all a crock.

[font size = "+1"]Rationale 0.0 remains the true rationale which is that Comey was getting too close[/font] and the heat in the kitchen was getting too hot for tRump. So rather than tRump getting out of the kitchen (resigning) he kicked Comey out of the kitchen. Unfortunately for tRump there are lots of other chefs working in the kitchen and they are keeping the heat on.

[font size = "+2"]Keeping the heat on means framing the issue as Obstruction of Justice and supporting a Special Prosecutor and persisting[/font] with the investigations.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
23. Actually, he's right on this one. There was nothing to exonerate her of.
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:46 PM
May 2017

The whole story was a fraud, from beginning to end.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
29. Exactly, frankly I think Comey saved the Repugnants from a hell of alot of embarrassment
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:05 PM
May 2017

because the entire Repugnant party hooked their wagons to going after her over the email issue and Benghazi and it was clear they were hell bent on continuing had she won but now it serves no purpose as it wont be a useful as a tool to rally their base around since she did not win.
Should Trump force it though and try to go after her over the entire bogus issue it could damage the Repugnants instead since the Democrats could seize upon it to rally around instead and considering how many people are already pissed at the Repugnants the next election for the House would be a slaughter.

sinkingfeeling

(51,445 posts)
25. So now the talking yam.is also a lawyer, a prosecutor, and a judge. He knows
Fri May 12, 2017, 10:52 PM
May 2017

more than anybody else in the world on everything in the world. Idiot.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. Trump can not remember from one statement to the next of what he says or gives
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:09 PM
May 2017

to his staff to tell. I agree, he claimed he fired Comey for his treatment of Clinton, now he is not treating Clinton fairly, let's fire Trump.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
31. More projection
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:22 PM
May 2017

This is just another case of Donald Trump projecting his actions on to other people. Trump put a great deal of pressure on James Comey to exonerate him, now Trump is claiming there was large amount of pressure on Comey to exonerate Hillary Clinton.

Eko

(7,281 posts)
35. No reason to spend time
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:48 PM
May 2017

trying to figure out the motivations of an idiot. He is an idiot, even he doesn't know why he does stuff.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
36. I'm not sure where people got the idea that the 'exoneration' of Clinton wasn't part of the ...
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:54 AM
May 2017

'Recommendation of Firing Memo' ... because it VERY clearly was.

We may want to pretend that it was all about 'the 11th hour letter', but that's not what the Assistant AG's memo said.

A far larger part of it is directed towards the 'exoneration', vs. the 'letter to Congress'. It's MOST OF IT, really.

Are we really that deep our own bullshit that we now believe Trumps whole 'argument' was about Comeys letter to Congress 'hurting Hillary'?

READ THE DAMN FIRING MEMO YOURSELF, that's my advice.

I only say that because 'we' don't have to twist the facts to make this all 'sound worse'. They're bad enough all on their own.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
62. You Must Be Reading The Wrong Memo. Memo Criticizes Comey's Disclosures...
Mon May 15, 2017, 09:49 AM
May 2017

...it does not focus on Comey's alleged failure to charge Hillary Clinton:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/09/us/politics/document-White-House-Fires-James-Comey.html

It criticizes Mr. Comey for overstepping his role.

“The Director was wrong to usurp the Attorney General’s authority on July 5, 2016, and announce his conclusion that the case should be closed without prosecution. It is not the function of the Director to make such an announcement. At most, the Director should have said the F.B.I. had completed its investigation and presented its findings to federal prosecutors.”

It criticizes Mr. Comey’s disclosures about Mrs. Clinton’s conduct.

“Compounding the error, the Director ignored another longstanding principle: we do not hold press conferences to release derogatory information about the subject of a declined criminal investigation. … The Director laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial. It is a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do.”

It portrays Mr. Comey’s late-October letter as a mistake.

“Concerning his letter to the Congress on October 28, 2016, the Director cast his decision as a choice between whether he would ‘speak’ about the decision to investigate the newly-discovered email messages or ‘conceal’ it. ‘Conceal’ is a loaded term that misstates the issue. When federal agents and prosecutors quietly open a criminal investigation, we are not concealing anything; we are simply following the longstanding policy that we refrain from publicizing non-public information. In that context, silence is not concealment.”

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
42. Don't be surprised if the new FBI director's first two acts are shutting down the Russia
Sat May 13, 2017, 10:33 AM
May 2017

investigation and re-opening the email investigation.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
46. "He" refers to the new FBI Director in the post I replied to. By "insurrection" I mean a refusal by
Sun May 14, 2017, 01:08 AM
May 2017

the FBI agents who have uncovered deep threads of treason, collusion, money-laundering, and other crimes of the Trump Administration to "shut down" their investigations and go quietly into that good night.

Some one of them, I think many, would go rogue and go public. Or at least leak like a sieve.

Patriots still exist.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
47. Well that "he" is going to be a Trump appointee that has sure as hell taken his loyalty pledge
Sun May 14, 2017, 02:21 AM
May 2017

and has been assured that they will follow Comey out the door if they don't follow orders. And as far as FBI agents going rogue, they've been keeping their mouths shut thus far. What makes you think that's suddenly going change?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
48. They've been mum because they've had no reason yet not to be. As for the other: You've heard of
Sun May 14, 2017, 09:01 AM
May 2017

Thomas Becket?

"Becket was nominated as Archbishop of Canterbury in 1162, several months after the death of Theobald. His election was confirmed on 23 May 1162 by a royal council of bishops and noblemen.[1] Henry may have hoped that Becket would continue to put the royal government first, rather than the church. However, the famous transformation of Becket into an ascetic occurred at this time."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket#Primacy

Perhaps more to the point: My prognostications have no more---AND NO LESS---value than those of you or any others.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
50. And the New Jersey gaming commission should never have allowed Trump to only pay a
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:37 PM
May 2017

multimillion dollar fine for not adhering to money laundering regulations.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
53. This is his dog whistle to the deplorables that she has to be indicted or they
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:47 PM
May 2017

need to take matters into their own hands, he hopes this will start a civil war, I say lets not give him that satisfaction.

Also definitive proof he lied about why he fired comey

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