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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:15 PM May 2017

Chelsea Manning Will Remain in Army, Collect Benefits Upon Release

Source: LawNewz




by Alberto Luperon | 1:00 pm, May 15th, 2017

Chelsea Manning will stay in the U.S. Army after her release from prison Wednesday. She will even get health benefits, and access to commissaries and military exchanges. But this may change, pending the appeal for her 2013 conviction.

“Pvt. Manning is statutorily entitled to medical care while on excess leave in an active duty status, pending final appellate review,” Army spokesman Dave Foster told USA Today. He declined to talk about other terms of her release, claiming there were privacy concerns.

We reached out to Manning’s legal team for comment.

Manning, previously known as Bradley, was sentenced to 35 years in prison her leaking over 700,000 government files to WikiLeaks. Punishment included a dishonorable discharge.

Read more: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/chelsea-manning-will-remain-in-army-collect-benefits-upon-release/

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Chelsea Manning Will Remain in Army, Collect Benefits Upon Release (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
I dont hold out much hope for Manning winning this and keeping the benefits but then cstanleytech May 2017 #1
Please... Manning is financially set for life either way. Blue_Tires May 2017 #2
You are probably right because I am sure there will be a number of speech opportunities cstanleytech May 2017 #3
Does the Federal Government have a "you can't profit from your crime" law? brooklynite May 2017 #4
Not that I am aware of but they do have the ability to place a hold on a book from being published cstanleytech May 2017 #8
Movie rights, too... Blue_Tires May 2017 #12
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #7
I was about to say I was happy to see you after such a long time Blue_Tires May 2017 #9
Well I have sympathy for Chelsea and she should get what she can legally get, but.. hrmjustin May 2017 #5
They are arguing via the appeals process (which is Mannings right) that the verdict is invalid due cstanleytech May 2017 #11
Thanks. It was a bit confusing. hrmjustin May 2017 #14
SO, it wasn't clear? Adrahil May 2017 #18
Hmmm, last time I checked my name wasnt Chealsea. cstanleytech May 2017 #19
Yeah, I know... I was being sarcastic. :) Adrahil May 2017 #22
700,000 not 700 OnlinePoker May 2017 #23
When you get convicted under the UCMJ... NobodyHere May 2017 #15
Lay you odds that there will be alot of "Opps we lost the paperwork" or cstanleytech May 2017 #20
I know very little about military procedure, but ... Akoto May 2017 #6
The dishonorable discharge was part of her sentence and she's appealing her conviction. tammywammy May 2017 #10
Discharge was for after serving her sentence. LeeM May 2017 #13
Not exactly true NobodyHere May 2017 #21
She's a soldier until her two appeals are concluded. NobodyHere May 2017 #16
Use that GI Bill while you can Manning NobodyHere May 2017 #17
In accordance with the Geneva Accords The Wizard May 2017 #24

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
1. I dont hold out much hope for Manning winning this and keeping the benefits but then
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:26 PM
May 2017

again stranger things have happened in life and I thought Trump would be President or that the Repugnants would stoop as low as to collude with a foreign government just to win the Whitehouse.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
3. You are probably right because I am sure there will be a number of speech opportunities
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:36 PM
May 2017

to earn money and some book ones though the government will probably put a hold them if it contains anything classified or that they deem is classified.

brooklynite

(94,561 posts)
4. Does the Federal Government have a "you can't profit from your crime" law?
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:41 PM
May 2017

(the "Son of Sam" Law in NYS). She admitted guilt in the Court proceedings, so may not be able to earn from either a book or speeches about her actions.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
8. Not that I am aware of but they do have the ability to place a hold on a book from being published
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:11 PM
May 2017

via the courts plus Manning will still be obliged under law not to reveal anything that is still classified.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. Movie rights, too...
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:19 PM
May 2017

Snowden cashed in on all that stuff (even to the point of giving commercial endorsements/plugs for certain encryption/security services and he doesn't have anywhere near the respectability or media appeal that he does... As long as she doesn't do something really fucking stupid like be an apologist for Putin/Trump like Snowden has.

I mean hell, Manning was given a lucrative writing job while IN prison. If she can't cash in on this racket now that she's out she needs a new agent ASAP.

Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #2)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. I was about to say I was happy to see you after such a long time
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:11 PM
May 2017

but since you felt the need to insult me personally I'll have no further discussion with you on this topic. Since we have a history with each other, just this one time I'll give you a Mulligan and not alert on your post -- Which is more slack than anyone here has ever given me, aside from Skinner and Earl.

If you can't come at me with an iota of decorum and respect, don't come at me, period... DU isn't Twitter -- Although if you prefer a more spirited discussion on that medium, I'm not hard to find.

Cheers, m8

-Scott

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
5. Well I have sympathy for Chelsea and she should get what she can legally get, but..
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:53 PM
May 2017

.., I think she should be removed from the military. I was under the impression this already happened.

She did commit a crime and she doesn't deserve to be in the army imho. But I respect others who disagree.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
11. They are arguing via the appeals process (which is Mannings right) that the verdict is invalid due
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:17 PM
May 2017

to the law under which the conviction was obtained as being to vague.
It might work but the government might then try to file new and or updated charges (they probably wont succeed though) then, not to send Manning to jail again but rather to affirm that the dishonorable discharge for the deliberate mishandling of classified information which it probably would as Manning is guilty of that.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
18. SO, it wasn't clear?
Mon May 15, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

Should I have NOT stolen 700 classified documents and given them to a foreign national? Was that wrong?

Sheesh.

Your sentence was commuted, Chealsea. Get on with your life. But as far as I am concerned you are a criminal. Maybe a traitor. Don't try and bullshit me.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
23. 700,000 not 700
Mon May 15, 2017, 08:58 PM
May 2017

I'm sure that's what you meant, but I just wanted to clarify the scale of her crime.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
15. When you get convicted under the UCMJ...
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:32 PM
May 2017

You get two automatic appeals, one to your branch appeal board and one to an armed forces board. Until you're denied both you're considered a soldier but under "judicial leave". So she could perhaps use the GI Bill (but not get the housing bonus that comes with it).

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
20. Lay you odds that there will be alot of "Opps we lost the paperwork" or
Mon May 15, 2017, 04:53 PM
May 2017

"Sorry but you need form DD-543-21A not DD-543-21B".

Akoto

(4,266 posts)
6. I know very little about military procedure, but ...
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:57 PM
May 2017

If Manning was dishonorably discharged in 2013, then why will she "remain" in the Army following her release? It reads as though they'd already kicked her out.

Genuinely just curious. I haven't followed the details of the case very closely.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
10. The dishonorable discharge was part of her sentence and she's appealing her conviction.
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:14 PM
May 2017

Apparently she's still active in the Army until her appeals complete.

LeeM

(31 posts)
13. Discharge was for after serving her sentence.
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:19 PM
May 2017

She was busted to E-1 and forfeited all pay and allowances while incarcerated at Leavenworth. One is still in the military in a military prison, after all, they just don't pay you. I had a shipmate who was prosecuted for selling aviation fuel to civilians on the sly, and he spent six months in the Mayport brig, lost all pay, and was eventually discharged.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
21. Not exactly true
Mon May 15, 2017, 05:34 PM
May 2017

You get discharged after your first two appeals are exhausted, it doesn't matter if you're in prison or not.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
16. She's a soldier until her two appeals are concluded.
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:33 PM
May 2017

Right now she's a soldier on permanent leave and without pay.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
24. In accordance with the Geneva Accords
Mon May 15, 2017, 10:22 PM
May 2017

of which the United States is a signatory. soldiers are required to report war crimes.

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