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TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:51 PM May 2017

Tempers Flare and Confusion Swirls at Rattled White House

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Source: MSN/Washington Post

The president’s appetite for chaos, coupled with his disregard for the self-protective conventions of the presidency, has left his staff confused and squabbling. And his own mood, according to two advisers who spoke on the condition of anonymity, has become sour and dark, turning against most of his aides — even his son-in-law, Jared Kushner — with Mr. Trump describing them in a fury as “incompetent,” according to one of those advisers.

As the maelstrom raged around them, reports swirled inside the White House that the president was about to embark on a major shake-up, probably starting with the dismissal or reassignment of Sean Spicer, the press secretary.

Mr. Trump’s rattled staff kept close tabs on a meeting early Monday in which the president summoned Mr. Spicer; the deputy press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders; and the communications director, Michael Dubke, to lecture them on the need “to get on the same page,” according to a person briefed on the meeting.

By the end of the day Tuesday, it seemed that Mr. Spicer had, for the moment, survived. People close to the president said Mr. Trump was considering the firing of several lower-level staff members, including several hired by Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff, while weighing a plan to hand most day-to-day briefing responsibilities to Ms. Sanders.


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Tempers Flare and Confusion Swirls at Rattled White House (Original Post) TomCADem May 2017 OP
Every thing he touches turns to crap. Cracklin Charlie May 2017 #1
And I thought w had the turd touch hibbing May 2017 #5
to get on the same page, left-of-center2012 May 2017 #2
And how can they get on the same page Grammy23 May 2017 #8
Yes. NYC Liberal May 2017 #13
I hope he is stupid enough to give Sanders the press room DURHAM D May 2017 #3
According to her daddy Scarsdale May 2017 #17
Remember Folks, It's Not The Story, But Who Leaked It... Grassy Knoll May 2017 #4
rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2017 #6
Classic Narsissistic Rage Marie Marie May 2017 #7
Yes and it's permanent Juliusseizure May 2017 #12
yep luvMIdog May 2017 #14
The rest of the article is quite a read - well worth the time progree May 2017 #9
Because his comical troupe has turned it into a cheap reality tv/internet show with poor ratings but truthisfreedom May 2017 #10
How many times have we seen this trope? ThoughtCriminal May 2017 #11
Blames everyone but himself leftynyc May 2017 #15
Rev. Moon held pro-Nixon rallies underpants May 2017 #16
Locking Chemisse May 2017 #18

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. Every thing he touches turns to crap.
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:57 PM
May 2017

hibbing

(10,598 posts)
5. And I thought w had the turd touch
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:10 AM
May 2017

This is putting his lifetime of failures to shame.


Peace

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. to get on the same page,
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:00 AM
May 2017

How can they get on the same page when the stories (excuses) keep changing?

Grammy23

(6,122 posts)
8. And how can they get on the same page
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:43 AM
May 2017

when all the surrogates go out with one version of the story while tRump himself fabricates a completely different scenario? With little or no advance warning or briefing, the surrogates head out to spread the word. If trump doesn't like their version, rather than stick with their story (to at least give the impression of orderliness) he throws them under the bus, puts it in reverse, rolls over their battered bodies and hits them again. Then he has the nerve to blame THEM When the media notices the conflict between versions.

Things are only going to get worse from here on out. If tRump thinks he can salvage this dumpster fire of a Presidency, he is more delusional than we all thought. What's driving every bit of this mess is his Narcissism and the huge mistake people in his administration thinking they could control him. Like all of his other enterprises, this one is going bankrupt before he can even get the office furniture arranged to suit him. Boo hoo.....and buh-bye, Donald. Don't let the screen door hit ya in the ass on your way out.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
13. Yes.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:48 AM
May 2017

He can hire and fire whoever he wants. It won't matter, because ultimately HE is the problem.

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
3. I hope he is stupid enough to give Sanders the press room
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:01 AM
May 2017

all by herself.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. According to her daddy
Wed May 17, 2017, 08:33 AM
May 2017

Mike Huckerbee, she has three toddlers at home, so she can handle this job. Now she has to handle a senior, adult, spoiled rotten toddler in the WH. I have no sympathy for any of them Amazing what people will do for $$$. Sacrifice their integrity and self respect. Where is first lady/daughter Ivanka? Did she give up too??

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
4. Remember Folks, It's Not The Story, But Who Leaked It...
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:04 AM
May 2017

...

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,211 posts)
6. rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:16 AM
May 2017

buh-bye!

Marie Marie

(11,312 posts)
7. Classic Narsissistic Rage
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:23 AM
May 2017

Narcissistic rage is a reaction to narcissistic injury, which is a perceived threat to a narcissist's self-esteem or self-worth (Wikipedia).
That, coupled with the fact that nothing is ever their fault, produces this rage that strikes out at anybody around them. And he seems to be raging daily, blaming everyone for his own incompetency.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
12. Yes and it's permanent
Wed May 17, 2017, 01:43 AM
May 2017

If you've known a person with a serious personality disorder, this is permanent. He will not change.

The only way a seriously afflicted narcissist can achieve peace of mind is by being a dictator with no opposition. I'm not mind reader. Trump's natural progression is to try suppress freedoms, become authoritarian, force people into submission, and destroy whoever and whatever gets in his way.

But this isn't a newly formed third banana republic for the taking, so he'll very very hard time keeping his illness in check.

Anyone who doesn't submit and treat him like the all knowing ruler of mankind is fired and degraded. That's how he got General McMaster to destroy his stellar reputation by forcing him to be spokesman and fib. As McMaster gets criticized by press for telling Trump's lie, Trump has an excuse to fire him. Rinse repeat.

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
14. yep
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:51 AM
May 2017

progree

(12,977 posts)
9. The rest of the article is quite a read - well worth the time
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:51 AM
May 2017

truthisfreedom

(23,532 posts)
10. Because his comical troupe has turned it into a cheap reality tv/internet show with poor ratings but
Wed May 17, 2017, 01:30 AM
May 2017

all of America at stake.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
11. How many times have we seen this trope?
Wed May 17, 2017, 01:31 AM
May 2017

Fools! Bunglers!




"Surrounded by idiots" Trope
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SurroundedByIdiots

"Evil help is hard to find. How else can you explain how the Evil Overlord's Dragon is a complete nincompoop, mooks are all dimwits who graduated from the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy, the elite special forces consist of a Quirky Mini Boss Squad, and all the ninjas are standing around in plain sight or queuing up to attack the heroes one at a time?
Sometimes, it seems like the lead antagonist has deliberately chosen the most incompetent, craven, cowardly, or just plain unreliable underlings around... the trope often culminates in a Dragon that, instead of being the best of what the lower ranks has to offer, seems to be a living distillation of everything that makes the incompetent underlings what they are. This version is often punctuated by having the right-hand man actually secretly trying to undermine and/or replace the Evil Overlord, but just too incompetent to be a real threat.
Of course, the simplest answer for why the evil master is surrounded by idiots is because you'd have to be stupid to work for him. The underlings' being Too Dumb to Live may well explain why they continue to work for an abusive employer, but we still have to wonder why the Evil Overlord hired them in the first place..."

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. Blames everyone but himself
Wed May 17, 2017, 05:36 AM
May 2017

His staff didn't ask Comey to stop the investigation, his staff didn't make up a dozen different excuses for firing Comey. Until the degenerate realizes HE'S the problem, this will just get worse for him. Gotta love that the early morning news keeps waiting for his freeking tweets.

underpants

(196,498 posts)
16. Rev. Moon held pro-Nixon rallies
Wed May 17, 2017, 06:20 AM
May 2017

Internal Unification Church documents provide new details on how the followers of South Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon organized their elaborate campaign in late 1973 to defend President Nixon from impeachment.

The documents, included in executive session testimony just released by a House International Relations subcommittee, show that the church-sponsored National Prayer and Fast Committee was in close contact with the White House and such Nixon supporters as Rabbi Baruch Korff throughout its "Project Watergate."

The purpose of the campaign, according to a Dec. 29, 1973, memo, was to bring new life to the archangel, Nixon - hence to make him aware of our significance." The project was a top priority of Moon, it added, because "Master wants to give an address to a joint session of Congress."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1977/11/10/moon-sect-support-of-nixon-detailed/08e25639-0846-4476-9cb7-f1bb5285f5c8/?utm_term=.c8debcde1035

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
18. Locking
Wed May 17, 2017, 08:50 AM
May 2017

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