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BumRushDaShow

(128,388 posts)
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:00 PM May 2017

Trump Told Russians That Firing 'Nut Job' Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved great pressure on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.

"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job", Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. Thats taken off". Mr. Trump added, "I'm not under investigation."

The conversation, during a May 10 meeting the day after he fired Mr. Comey reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureaus investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives. Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing.

The White House document that contained Mr. Trumps comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html



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Trump Told Russians That Firing 'Nut Job' Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2017 OP
And, with that, bon voyage, asshole! BeyondGeography May 2017 #1
...of epic proportions! BootinUp May 2017 #2
Sail away... countryjake May 2017 #17
Who's offering a freed up barge with a long distance capable tugboat? eom sprinkleeninow May 2017 #23
Sorry, the few available lifeboats are reportedly full already countryjake May 2017 #55
You! sprinkleeninow May 2017 #68
And lsewpershad May 2017 #49
Why does he call up Putin for everything he does? This is a sign of giving up secrets notdarkyet May 2017 #3
He said this to the Russians he met with in the Oval Office--Lavrov and Sislyak. tblue37 May 2017 #18
There were only a few leftynyc May 2017 #4
It's the official account of the meeting, based on notes. countryjake May 2017 #13
'Grandstanding' word again. Shut the HELLUP!! sprinkleeninow May 2017 #25
Welcome to DU! Sugar Smack May 2017 #38
Ta, Shug. (I chilled some since my hyperventilation post.) sprinkleeninow May 2017 #66
welcome back!! niyad May 2017 #74
'Negotiate' now means 'Give Daddy Vladdy whatever the hell he wants' Volaris May 2017 #34
Would you like a nice polonium tea with that prediction? countryjake May 2017 #46
But who took the notes? And was in a position to know what was said and would risk being ? Amaryllis May 2017 #45
Cannot dignify your final sentence with any sort of serious reply. countryjake May 2017 #51
Don't Care!!! kytngirl May 2017 #57
Trump has no self-discipline, no filter madaboutharry May 2017 #5
Or hand-gesturing. nt Ilsa May 2017 #12
Trump is a criminal with an IQ less than his age dalton99a May 2017 #27
Straight jacket and duct tape for tRump. Grammy23 May 2017 #35
Where have the Kushners been this week? maddiemom May 2017 #43
Lawyering up? sheshe2 May 2017 #58
Wow.... that's rich... Kleveland May 2017 #6
I am ssssttttssshhh...I can't produce words intelligibly about this. sprinkleeninow May 2017 #22
!!!......this strikes me as damning, damnable, and deplorable. Lots of play in wiggs May 2017 #7
shooting himself in the foot barbtries May 2017 #8
Yeah, Trump did kind of screw himself, didn't he???!!! LOL hamsterjill May 2017 #42
3 PM...the Times must be starting the weekend early. brooklynite May 2017 #9
right after AF1 took off for the other side of the Atlantic nt geek tragedy May 2017 #14
Stunning. 45 said that and officials admitted it? n/t moonscape May 2017 #10
News came out right as the plane lifted off, LOL! LiberalLoner May 2017 #11
They (NYT & WaPO) gave him a Bon Voyage troll BumRushDaShow May 2017 #16
Delicious. dalton99a May 2017 #24
Do we think this was coincidental? Grammy23 May 2017 #36
And what would Putin do with him? dchill May 2017 #53
Good answer! Good answer! (Family Feud.) They do fancy their chai from a samovar. Could also use him sprinkleeninow May 2017 #67
+1 CentralMass May 2017 #54
Meanwhile in the FOX Alt Universe, all the news are about Anthony Weiner. nt Xipe Totec May 2017 #15
Can we just create a SuperPulitzer for NYT and WaPo? nolabear May 2017 #19
Right? I was reading at the Times site, that news popped up countryjake May 2017 #31
Political acumen and talent abounds in the orange man. nt irisblue May 2017 #20
maggot and the spawns MFM008 May 2017 #21
Trump was bragging, again. He seems quite proud of being able to fire the FBI Director. SunSeeker May 2017 #26
Please let there be tape!! Bleacher Creature May 2017 #28
What's just bizarre is he said he's not under investigation anymore because he fired comey TNLib May 2017 #29
How long has he been gone? 20 minutes? Lol montanto May 2017 #30
lololololololol JHan May 2017 #32
Can you imagine what it must be like to be trapped on that plane with Trump right now? herding cats May 2017 #33
Any chance he'll make a run for a Russian embassy during his trip abroad Blue Idaho May 2017 #37
Awww.. it's cute that he thinks that. furtheradu May 2017 #39
It takes one (crazy nut job) to know--- maddiemom May 2017 #40
In other words: Marie Marie May 2017 #41
White House response brooklynite May 2017 #44
Yeah sure Spicey, that's the real problem. Those damn leaks! Dark n Stormy Knight May 2017 #71
Yes, you most certainly are STILL under investigation. paleotn May 2017 #47
"I'm not under investigation." forgotmylogin May 2017 #52
pot calling the kettle black? onetexan May 2017 #48
You Just Can't Make This Up... TomCADem May 2017 #50
IS ANYONE REMOTELY SURPRISED HE'S AN ACTUAL FREAKING TRAITOR? JuJuYoshida May 2017 #56
That's gonna endear Comey to trump when the testimony starts! George II May 2017 #59
WE ARE SOOOOOOO SCREWED! BadGimp May 2017 #60
McMaster also witnessed this? Does he consider this communication with Russian officials deurbano May 2017 #61
Russians heard true explanation of Comey firing before the American people knew wishstar May 2017 #62
It's his braggadocious personality BumRushDaShow May 2017 #63
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #65
Hmmm, I wonder if the source of this is the Pence branch of the administration Raven123 May 2017 #64
this is how I see it: ginnyinWI May 2017 #69
K & R L. Coyote May 2017 #70
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #72
WHEN YOU are not normal, normal is WEIRD. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #73

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
55. Sorry, the few available lifeboats are reportedly full already
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:58 PM
May 2017

And no self respecting Merchant Marine would ever hitch a hawser to a vessel with that sort of infectious crew.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
3. Why does he call up Putin for everything he does? This is a sign of giving up secrets
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:07 PM
May 2017

And strategies. To warn Putin? To seek his advise. This is very dysfunctional and unhealthy for our nation.

tblue37

(65,215 posts)
18. He said this to the Russians he met with in the Oval Office--Lavrov and Sislyak.
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:21 PM
May 2017

Putin would hear of it, too, of course, from his guys, but Trump didn't directly call Putin to say these things.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. There were only a few
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:07 PM
May 2017

of donnie's closest advisors, the russians and the russian press in the oval office. Who's the leaker? Is putin putting donnie's nuts in a vice?

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
13. It's the official account of the meeting, based on notes.
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:18 PM
May 2017

From that NY Times piece:

"The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion."

It doesn't sound like any surreptitious leaking was involved, to me. It's unclear, though, from that article. Spicer was contacted and apparently verified that the official "notes" were accurate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65326241&pgtype=article

Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, did not dispute the account.

In a statement, he said that Mr. Comey had put unnecessary pressure on the president’s ability to conduct diplomacy with Russia on matters such as Syria, Ukraine and the Islamic State.

“By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia’s actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia,” Mr. Spicer said. “The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations.”


sprinkleeninow

(20,212 posts)
25. 'Grandstanding' word again. Shut the HELLUP!!
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:36 PM
May 2017

Missing brain cells to rub together in order to access their funk n wagnalls. How original--grandstanding and showboating.
Shut the HELLUP!!
What's going on w/me today.
I'm seething.

sprinkleeninow

(20,212 posts)
66. Ta, Shug. (I chilled some since my hyperventilation post.)
Fri May 19, 2017, 07:22 PM
May 2017

I joined DU under another screen name when the mad cowboy got selected to occupy the Peoples' House, then had peace of mind when Barack became our CiC and curtailed my activity. Had medical emergencies with my mom and that took over anyway.
I joined again recently with a new name. Didn't want a feeling of isolation. There is a wealth of info. and camaraderie so to speak on here.
Cheers, sprink

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
34. 'Negotiate' now means 'Give Daddy Vladdy whatever the hell he wants'
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:44 PM
May 2017

Yes, I would have to agree that the FBI Russia investigations would put pressure on those 'negotiations'.

Good thing that's all taken care of now that the nutjob is fired. . .

The American President honestly thinks he can lie to Russian mob interests as easily as he lies to his own constituents, and that there just won't be any consequences for this. I have a feeling that no matter what else happens, he's going to find out how wrong he is.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
46. Would you like a nice polonium tea with that prediction?
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:21 PM
May 2017

I've thought for a long time now, whenever I see people wondering what exactly it might be that Putin has on Trump...it is most likely simply his knowledge of the fates of so many others who learned the hard way what can happen when dealings with Russia go sour.

Fear.

Alexander Litvinenko, Viktor Yushchenko, Yuri Shchekochikhin... and the list goes on and on.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
45. But who took the notes? And was in a position to know what was said and would risk being ?
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:20 PM
May 2017

identified at the leaker since there were so few people it could have been? ANd is T really so stupid that if he knew someone was taking notes he would still say all that stuff?

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
51. Cannot dignify your final sentence with any sort of serious reply.
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:44 PM
May 2017

Bwahahahahaha! Are you asking that question about the same man who is on record as publicly tweeting literally hundreds of inane statements, buffoonish retorts that, if any Democratic leader had ever made such damaging declarations, drastic legal proceedings would have begun immediately?!

As far as I know, it hasn't yet been revealed who the note taker could have been. But the way that NYTimes article reads, the person who wrote down those notes isn't necessarily the same person who read Trump's quotes to Matt Apuzzo, Maggie Haberman, or Matthew Rosenberg.

It just says the White House document was circulated as the official account of the meeting.

kytngirl

(99 posts)
57. Don't Care!!!
Fri May 19, 2017, 05:09 PM
May 2017

I don't care who took the notes. Spicer didn't deny it was said. He spun some BS about needing to reassure Russia blah, blah, blah. Therefore the leaker spoke to the truth. We'll probably find out that Spicer has been "Deep Throat" all along. Trumps makes him go out there to tell a bunch of lies and then he (Trump) comes along a day or so later and says something completely different. Yeah, if I was Spicer I'd leak every tidbit I heard because the idiot doesn't deserve loyalty!

madaboutharry

(40,184 posts)
5. Trump has no self-discipline, no filter
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:08 PM
May 2017

Maybe Kushner and Ivanka should put duck tape over his mouth before they let him off the plane when it lands in Saudi Arabia and he has the opportunity to start blabbing.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
6. Wow.... that's rich...
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

Who is that wacko calling a nut job?

Talk about psychological projection...

Holy crap... I am verklempt!

sprinkleeninow

(20,212 posts)
22. I am ssssttttssshhh...I can't produce words intelligibly about this.
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:24 PM
May 2017

Heavenlies, you do hear this, DON'T YOU??!!

wiggs

(7,809 posts)
7. !!!......this strikes me as damning, damnable, and deplorable. Lots of play in
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

the media please. This is not going to endear him with the FBI or with normal gop congresspersons.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
42. Yeah, Trump did kind of screw himself, didn't he???!!! LOL
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:13 PM
May 2017

I should stop laughing. But I don't intend to do that.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
36. Do we think this was coincidental?
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:48 PM
May 2017

A nice little tweak in the nuts...so he won't forget what's waiting on him when he gets back.....IF he comes back. I think he is gonna bail. Just go beg Putin to let him take up residence.

sprinkleeninow

(20,212 posts)
67. Good answer! Good answer! (Family Feud.) They do fancy their chai from a samovar. Could also use him
Fri May 19, 2017, 07:35 PM
May 2017

as waitstaff in a Russian tea room. 😋😆

nolabear

(41,930 posts)
19. Can we just create a SuperPulitzer for NYT and WaPo?
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:22 PM
May 2017

They are the hope of the nation right now.

In other news, that man is like the kid in the family who wants so badly to impress the bullies he lets them in to rob the house.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
31. Right? I was reading at the Times site, that news popped up
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:43 PM
May 2017

right above the piece I'd been reading, then, when I checked on the tab I had open to a Wash Post article...BREAKING NEWS!

It's dueling banjos, I tell ya! Loving every single minute of it. The Hope of the Nation!

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
26. Trump was bragging, again. He seems quite proud of being able to fire the FBI Director.
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:37 PM
May 2017

He thinks that impresses the Russians. Of course, Putin would not be impressed. Putin would have given Comey some lethal "tea," not stupid Twitter threats. Comey is still alive and will testify.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
29. What's just bizarre is he said he's not under investigation anymore because he fired comey
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:40 PM
May 2017

Is he really that detached from reality? or was he trying to con the Russians too?

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
33. Can you imagine what it must be like to be trapped on that plane with Trump right now?
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:44 PM
May 2017

By mid flight they'll be fighting over the parachutes.

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
39. Awww.. it's cute that he thinks that.
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:12 PM
May 2017

DA! it didn't "take the pressure off"..but thanks for confessing to Obstruction of JUSTICE! trump, you ain't seeen PRESSURE yet! YiiiHaaaa!

DumA$$!

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
41. In other words:
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:13 PM
May 2017

Wink Wink - "Now we can go back to all our dirty deeds without interference". Just letting them know where his loyalties lie. This man is a Traitor.

forgotmylogin

(7,519 posts)
52. "I'm not under investigation."
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:49 PM
May 2017

That's going to be the mantra he babbles over and over rocking in a straitjacket on the floor of a padded cell if this keeps up.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
50. You Just Can't Make This Up...
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:41 PM
May 2017

...no wonder the White House has not accepted Russia's offer of the transcripts.

JuJuYoshida

(2,215 posts)
56. IS ANYONE REMOTELY SURPRISED HE'S AN ACTUAL FREAKING TRAITOR?
Fri May 19, 2017, 05:07 PM
May 2017

Yup and the White House is not saying that didn't happen (because there is probably a recording of it).

They're saying he was "joking".

Da.

Ryan was also "joking" about "no leaks", right? It's all smiles at the GOP these days.

In other news, Kushner is going down now.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
61. McMaster also witnessed this? Does he consider this communication with Russian officials
Fri May 19, 2017, 05:16 PM
May 2017

"wholly appropriate," too? A lot of reputations going down with this ship... (The ones that weren't underwater to start with.)

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
62. Russians heard true explanation of Comey firing before the American people knew
Fri May 19, 2017, 05:37 PM
May 2017

At time he told Russians, WH was trying to claim Rosenstein had recommended the firing based on the memo.

Outrageous that he would insult our top law enforcement official in that way to Russians.

Raven123

(4,782 posts)
64. Hmmm, I wonder if the source of this is the Pence branch of the administration
Fri May 19, 2017, 05:57 PM
May 2017

The VP is probably salivating over possibilities.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
69. this is how I see it:
Fri May 19, 2017, 11:45 PM
May 2017

Donnie is a little, lost, unloved boy who always wanted his daddy's approval and didn't get it. He now sees Putin (and maybe all those other autocrats) as his daddy who can finally give approval. So he chums up with the Russians and acts like he's one of them, the elites, and speaks down against his FBI director, who he sees as one of the "help". "See, boys, I can handle this annoying problem!" Always looking for approval and acceptance. Those pictures perfectly captured that.

Never mind that in reality it isn't his daddy, it is the Russians, our adversaries (yeah the same ones bombing Syria to smithereens).

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