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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Sat May 20, 2017, 01:03 AM May 2017

Army to test microwave weapon in New Mexico

Source: The Albuquerque Journal

https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.469386.1495254655!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_900/image.jpg


By KEVIN ROBINSON-AVILA | The Albuquerque Journal (Tribune News Service) | Published: May 20, 2017


ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — The Air Force Research Laboratory at Kirtland Air Force Base has turned its massive MaxPower microwave defense system over to the Army for new rounds of research and development.

The system, which the AFRL built to destroy improvised explosive devices, will now be housed at New Mexico Tech’s Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center near Socorro. The center, which includes a 40-square-mile field laboratory in the mountains adjacent to the university, has been used for explosives research and testing by NM Tech for government and private clients for more than 60 years.

The Army’s Armament, Research, Development and Engineering Center took over the MaxPower program this week.

The system packs a full gigawatt of concentrated electromagnetic power into an armored truck. That’s one billion times the power of an average home microwave oven, allowing the vehicle to instantly destroy IEDs as it cruises through battle zones.

Read more: https://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-to-test-microwave-weapon-in-new-mexico-1.469385#.WR_NemjyvIU

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Army to test microwave weapon in New Mexico (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2017 OP
Plus, it can take photos inside kitchens hundreds of miles away... Rollo May 2017 #1
Does it listen in on conversations? murielm99 May 2017 #2
Is that where Kookyanne is? N/t gldstwmn May 2017 #3
Maybe burrowowl May 2017 #6
4 words kristopher May 2017 #4
Seriously? Physics says that a ridiculous notion. Thor_MN May 2017 #8
That is what the entire program was developed to do - kristopher May 2017 #10
You are thinking about the Airborne Laser system hack89 May 2017 #13
The version of the system I saw was a "maser" kristopher May 2017 #18
Illuminence--light--follows the same law. Igel May 2017 #15
Yeah, you really ought to do some reading... Thor_MN May 2017 #17
They're hoping to increase its power levels to 1.21 gigawatts. eggplant May 2017 #5
Kellyanne onsite in NM: Quemado May 2017 #7
How long before local law enforcement has this? HAB911 May 2017 #9
great for heating up leftovers in .000000000001 sec. Blues Heron May 2017 #11
".... money they're wasting on this BS" EX500rider May 2017 #19
Oh great future wars Blues Heron May 2017 #23
Expecting a completely war free future are you? EX500rider May 2017 #24
Here comes the 101st Chairborne Blues Heron May 2017 #25
Some prefer our troops have protection from IED's...some don't... EX500rider May 2017 #27
you guys have had decades to get the job done Blues Heron May 2017 #28
So if I want IED protection for US troops I am a "plague on this planet"? EX500rider May 2017 #30
I misread the headline... mwooldri May 2017 #12
And I misread it as They_Live May 2017 #21
There goes 1,000 new hospitals for Americans. Sunlei May 2017 #14
Echoes of Dwight Eisenhower. guillaumeb May 2017 #26
Correction... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #16
i hope bigtime May 2017 #20
Hot pockets. Way more dangerous! Adrahil May 2017 #22
I'd gladly see this developed than any more go into the F-35 hangar queen... Archae May 2017 #29
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
8. Seriously? Physics says that a ridiculous notion.
Sat May 20, 2017, 07:12 AM
May 2017

Electromagnetic radiation, including microwaves, obey an inverse square law. Double the distance and the target gets one fourth of the energy. So a device that could detonate an IED from, say, 100 feet would only put 1 two thousand, eight hundredth (1/2787th) the energy into a similar sized object a mile away. Consider how to get a truck sized device within a mile of a North Korean missile and the realities will become apparent.

In 4 words. Missiles? No freaking way.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
10. That is what the entire program was developed to do -
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:43 AM
May 2017

shoot down missiles. They used to have it mounted in a modified C-135 and it was workable at considerable distance. The challenges at the time (1981) were tied to aiming and holding the beam on a target for a duration long enough to effect destruction. Given the advances in computer technology I doubt that is a problem today.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
18. The version of the system I saw was a "maser"
Sat May 20, 2017, 12:19 PM
May 2017

I received a pretty comprehensive briefing from the project manager as part of my duties at Kirkland AFB, it was a maser that I was briefed on.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
15. Illuminence--light--follows the same law.
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:55 AM
May 2017

And yet lasers.

Microwaves are just long-wavelength "light". In fact, there are masers. Microwave lasers, if you will.

If they have a point microwave source and let it freely emit in all direction, you're right.

If they focus it, then it's focused.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
5. They're hoping to increase its power levels to 1.21 gigawatts.
Sat May 20, 2017, 03:22 AM
May 2017

And shrink it down to fit into a Delorean.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
11. great for heating up leftovers in .000000000001 sec.
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:07 AM
May 2017

BTW that's our healthcare/infrastructure/schools money they're wasting on this BS

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
19. ".... money they're wasting on this BS"
Sat May 20, 2017, 01:16 PM
May 2017

US troops who have to run convoys thru IED zones in future wars may disagree.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
28. you guys have had decades to get the job done
Sat May 20, 2017, 05:16 PM
May 2017

But you want to keep it going. Time to bring them home. You're making matters worse. You bang bang boys are a plague on this planet.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
12. I misread the headline...
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:16 AM
May 2017

"Army to test microwave popcorn in New Mexico".

I think this would be a more delicious alternative.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
16. Correction...
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:26 AM
May 2017
"The system packs a full gigawatt of concentrated electromagnetic power into an armored truck. That’s one billion times the power of an average home microwave oven..."


A gigawatt is 1 billion watts (1,000,000,000). The average microwave oven is 1 kilowatt (1,000). The power ratio between those two would be 1 million (1,000,000 or a megawatt).

Archae

(46,327 posts)
29. I'd gladly see this developed than any more go into the F-35 hangar queen...
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:07 AM
May 2017

The more I read about the F-35, the more it looks like the 1930's planes we went into WW2 with.

Junk that was easily shot down.

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