Ivanka Trump 'receives permission to fly on Sabbath' for father's trip abroad
Source: Independent
Jewish law generally does not permit travelling on the Sabbath except in life-threatening situations
Alexandra Wilts Washington DC 5 hours ago
Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner reportedly got the green light from a rabbi to fly on Air Force One with Donald Trump, as the president kicked off his first trip abroad as president.
Both practicing Orthodox Jews, Mr Trump's daughter and son-in-law typically observe the weekly Shabbat holiday by removing themselves from work activities from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday.
Jewish law does not permit travelling on the Sabbath except in life-threatening situations, or if there is a safety concern. It was not clear on what grounds the rabbi made the exception for Ms Trump and Mr Kushner to accompany the president on his trip, Politico reported.
On Inauguration Day, they also received a rabbinical approval to travel by car.
Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ivanka-trump-sabbath-foreign-trip-jared-kushner-allowed-a7745891.html
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)...they both seem... ungodly. I wonder if a good reporter could find any other instances where they worked on the Sabbath?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)stability of America and the world.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)She's about as sincere a convert as I am.
FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)...but they are going to Israel where things like this aren't taken lightly.
She's showing that she's the good little Jewish girl who asked the rabbi's permission first.
I'm not sure if Jared (who was raised Jewish) ever did any such thing, and that's what is odd about this.
Just sayin'
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)except when they hurt others, or practitioners trot them out to suit their own agenda.
Does anyone in the Trump clan have a sincere spiritual bone in their bodies?
It insults those who walk the walk.
patricia92243
(12,591 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)The rabbi must have known that leaving the crazy baby unattended is a threat to world peace and stability.
brucefan
(1,549 posts)St. Pattys Day fell on a Friday,and the pope gave me the green light to eat corned beef and cabbage.
FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)...but our local bishop in Pittsburgh gave dispensation to eat meat on that particular Friday.
Only because it happened during Lent, when we're still doing the abstinence thing.
For me it didn't matter because I've always hated corned beef. My mom didn't know how to cook it right and I always hated it since childhood.
Maeve
(42,271 posts)American bishops, as a rule, are usually good about dispensations for the Irish when it falls on a Friday. In Ireland, barnacle goose was often claimed to be 'seafood' and not meat back in the days when the Lenten abstinence went the whole 40 days. Mostly claimed by the well-to-do, mind you...
And corned beef is an Irish-American thing that has since been imported to Ireland. Originally it was Irish bacon and cabbage (think Canadian style back bacon). That style of bacon was harder to come by here, but the nice Jewish neighbors clued us into corned beef and the rest is history (well, folklore, but you get the idea). I can't stand cabbage--taste or smell--but a nice Rueben sandwich with thin sliced corned beef...
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)my 87 year old mom appreciated that.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)Traveling on the Sabbath was a matter of convenience and not necessity, much less emergency. I hope the in-flight movie options included Chariots of Fire.
keithbvadu2
(36,655 posts)RelativelyJones
(898 posts)you can't fly any other day either."
Blue_Adept
(6,393 posts)paleotn
(17,881 posts)Special dispensation? Sounds quite pharisaical to me. Do these people really think the creator of a universe so vast we cannot even comprehend our tiny corner of it gives a rat's rear end if some puny, ephemeral Homo sapien travels by air on a certain day? What crap! Yet lying their asses off 6 days a week is perfectly fine.
kimbutgar
(21,055 posts)I highly doubt it.
keithbvadu2
(36,655 posts)They have the freedom of religion to ignore their religion when the religion becomes inconvenient.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Ronan the Accuser
(8 posts)No Jews will recognize her conversion and it is a false conversion if she is allowed to break the Sabbath.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)she was converted by an RCA biet din. The rabbi she studied under has some issues, but he wasn't formally part of her conversion. The only way it wouldn't be recognized is if there is reason to doubt she was sincere at the time of the conversion.
There have long been situations where heads of state were allowed to travel on the Sabbath.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)I have ever seen.
MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)A fraud. LOL.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)have going on. They just don't seem very observant or sincere.
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)If the Kushners were observant Jews they would have arrived the day before or flown on Sunday.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Integrity, sincerity and dedication (except to making money) are not evident in their lives.
enid602
(8,594 posts)Is this the same rabbi who authorized her to build a hotel with a money launderer who funds Hezbollah?
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Danmel
(4,907 posts)Wouldn't have had to travel on the Sabbath and wouldn't have to visit a country that oppresses women and doesn't let Israeli and people with Israeli passport stamps in to the country.