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Sun May 21, 2017, 11:17 AM

Trump's Saudi speech condemns violence in name of religion

Source: BBC

US President Donald Trump has underlined the need to confront extremism in Islam during a speech in Saudi Arabia.

Speaking in the Saudi capital Riyadh, he said the fight against extremism was not "a battle between different faiths" but "a battle between good and evil".

Mr Trump, who is on his first official trip abroad, is delivering the speech at a summit of regional leaders.

His harsh campaign rhetoric on Muslims stirred concern in the Islamic world.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39989548

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Reply Trump's Saudi speech condemns violence in name of religion (Original post)
alp227 May 2017 OP
Crowman2009 May 2017 #1
Botany May 2017 #2
ewagner May 2017 #4
BumRushDaShow May 2017 #6
ewagner May 2017 #15
keithbvadu2 May 2017 #3
SunSeeker May 2017 #14
dalton99a May 2017 #5
Maxheader May 2017 #7
NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #8
Dopers_Greed May 2017 #9
lastlib May 2017 #11
louis-t May 2017 #10
ananda May 2017 #12
Sunlei May 2017 #13
GreydeeThos May 2017 #16

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:22 AM

1. Well how about giving your Xtian followers that message as well Drumpfy?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:32 AM

2. Our Good friends the Saudis


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-yousaf-butt-/saudi-wahhabism-islam-terrorism_b_6501916.html

It would be troublesome but perhaps acceptable for the House of Saud to promote the intolerant and extremist Wahhabi creed just domestically. But, unfortunately, for decades the Saudis have also lavishly financed its propagation abroad. Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number. By comparison, the Soviets spent about $7 billion spreading communism worldwide in the 70 years from 1921 and 1991.

This appears to be a monumental campaign to bulldoze the more moderate strains of Islam, and replace them with the theo-fascist Saudi variety. Despite being well aware of the issue, Western powers continue to coddle the Saudis or, at most, protest meekly from time to time.

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Response to Botany (Reply #2)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:50 AM

4. I'm going to reread "A Peace to End All Peace"

It's a great book and a difficult read because of the complicated history of the Middle East...


but...

One lesson was abundantly clear: Because of the location of The Mecca, the House of Saud was seen as the protector of the Islamic faith and even today the Saudi family has to reassert its bona fides to the rest of the Islamic community. They do this by funding the "keepers of the faith" like Al Queda and Isis... (pardon any misspellings...)

I remember a phrase in the book where after WW I the British promised Prince Faisal I bin Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi, to protect what is now modern day Iraq from the Russians (the great game of colonization was afoot even after WWI) but Faisal asked, "...but who will protect me from Ibn Saud?" Ibn Saud was greatly feared for his radical devotion to Islam and his Wahhabi followers.

It's hard to believe but nevertheless true...these problems go back to before WW I.

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Response to ewagner (Reply #4)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:06 PM

6. I still have the book on my shelf

and read it 25 years ago after hearing the author (David Fromkin) on a talk radio show discussing the book and current events at the time (build up for Gulf War). It was one the most fascinating books I had ever read that explained what got us to this point (at least where we were in the early '90s, which is still boiling and bubbling today).

Ottoman Empire... which appears (thanks to Erdogan) to be moving towards resurrecting itself.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #6)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:47 PM

15. Good Point..

Turkey has a history of leaders who see themselves as the second coming of Attaturk and see Turkey as the seat of an empire!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:40 AM

3. did not include the controversial phrase "radical Islamic terrorism"

Must have forgotten it.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #3)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:32 PM

14. Yup, did not say it. If Obama gave that speech, Fox would be ripping him as an "apologist." nt

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:54 AM

5. Yeah

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:09 PM

7. Lets see..

dementia boy is using the podium to define to the Muslims
where they fit in the world....Should I be worried?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:28 PM

8. hmmm. no comment needed.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:38 PM

9. But violence in the name of profit is A-OK

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Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #9)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:53 PM

11. only if it's profit for the 1-pct.....

(everyone else can go do self-fornication....)

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:53 PM

10. Oh, he's such a hero. He got a 'hero's welcome'

dontcha know? That's according to a drumpf worshiper on another site.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:16 PM

12. Really?

After all the serious violence he's doing to Americans and immigrants
in the name of religion?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:22 PM

13. If he stuck to the script & can read it, hes ok.The man isn't a natural at public speaking or acting

Off the cuff BSing that's his talent.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:12 PM

16. Trump insults Islam in an Islamic country

This must be part of his highly effective negotiating style.

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