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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:39 PM May 2017

U.S. new home sales drop 11.4% in April, the most in two years

Source: LA Times

US S. sales of new homes last month registered the biggest drop in more than two years.

The Commerce Department said Tuesday that new home sales skidded 11.4% in April to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 569,000. It was the biggest monthly drop since March 2015. Economists had expected a more modest retreat from March sales of 642,000, which were the highest since October 2007. Sales in April were still up 0.5% from a year earlier.

Sales fell in every region of the country, led by a 26.3% plunge in the West, the biggest drop since October 2010.

Economists were inclined to view the April reading as a one-month blip. Ian Shepherdson, chief economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, called last month’s drop “a correction from the March cycle high, not a warning sign.”

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Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-new-home-sales-20170523-story.html

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U.S. new home sales drop 11.4% in April, the most in two years (Original Post) jpak May 2017 OP
Thanks, Trump! 50 Shades Of Blue May 2017 #1
Thanks to Mr. & Mrs. Hoodwink voter, supporter of a grifter. ffr May 2017 #6
Trump slump (R) Achilleaze May 2017 #2
Explains why I can't get my house sold liberal N proud May 2017 #3
People are down right scared. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #5
And the Drumpf economic holocaust begins. DippyDem May 2017 #4
Republicans are pros at depressions and recessions. ffr May 2017 #7
...and CONs at everything else..... lastlib May 2017 #14
They sure as hell are! workinclasszero May 2017 #20
The housing market drives a HUGE part of the economy. lastlib May 2017 #15
This was gonna happen regardless of who was president Tiggeroshii May 2017 #8
No...a president with a brain and a Congress with a brain could avoid the recession coming our way.. Demsrule86 May 2017 #16
I'm speaking more on what Congress would be and has been contributing to the mix Tiggeroshii May 2017 #17
Don't forget, if Hill won, we almost certainly would also Hortensis May 2017 #31
This is true... Tiggeroshii May 2017 #32
Wish I remember who said it, but someone who's Hortensis May 2017 #33
Which is why a quick impeachment or removal is pretty crucial at this point. Tiggeroshii May 2017 #34
I stand corrected. You are right. Demsrule86 May 2017 #37
I would believe this to be really bad news ... aggiesal May 2017 #9
The numbers are seasonally adjusted progree May 2017 #10
These look like hard raw numbers ... aggiesal May 2017 #11
"seasonally adjusted annual rate of 569,000" progree May 2017 #12
Didn't help that tRump's first trade action was to hammer Canada on softwood lumber. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #13
And for the benefit of the not fooled May 2017 #24
A-ha ! Kittycow May 2017 #26
People know that their healthcare insurance is coming to NCjack May 2017 #18
THANKS TRUMP!!! workinclasszero May 2017 #19
Trump will blame Obama or Hillary titaniumsalute May 2017 #21
A large part of it is that people are no longer selling starter homes anymore NickB79 May 2017 #22
bingo burnbaby May 2017 #23
Interesting, thanks. Hortensis May 2017 #36
These so called bidding wars for homes elmac May 2017 #25
Houses here in San Francisco aren't all sold immediately anymore. displacedtexan May 2017 #27
I'm in real estate and in Georgia, inventory is sparse Mr. Ected May 2017 #28
Welcome to early 2008 and another Republican DISASTER slowly unfolding.............n/t Bengus81 May 2017 #29
Well, yeah . . . . HughBeaumont May 2017 #30
Sales are down in RI due to a lack of inventory hack89 May 2017 #35

ffr

(22,669 posts)
6. Thanks to Mr. & Mrs. Hoodwink voter, supporter of a grifter.
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:59 PM
May 2017

Instead of the candidate who's popularity soared while she was in office.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. Trump slump (R)
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:42 PM
May 2017

Thanks, Comrade Casino* and cabal of colluding republican cronies.

* republican Draft Dodger-in-Chief

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. People are down right scared.
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:56 PM
May 2017

Trump has caused many to pull back on big ticket items. Here in Vegas,housing is still blowing the doors off and those sales are to persons from the Cold States. But again,so many 2007 signs are showing we might be near the end. That will show in the final numbers for this month. The last time it blew up was in May of 2007,and it turned over night.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
7. Republicans are pros at depressions and recessions.
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:00 PM
May 2017

And have a long history of making it so.

Small government, my ass!

lastlib

(23,216 posts)
15. The housing market drives a HUGE part of the economy.
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:09 PM
May 2017

It's a leading indicator--when housing starts to go south, consumer goods nearly always follow soon after.

Tinyhands is shaking up the political and economic psyche of the country, and people who buy stuff, like new homes and the things that go into them, get rattled and hold onto their wallets. Everything else in the economy sooner or later follows suit, and voila! another GOPee-driven recession.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
8. This was gonna happen regardless of who was president
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:06 PM
May 2017

But it is being sped up since these take from the bottom and put as much on the top policies have been excacerbbated a thousand fold under Trump. I predict another recession quite soon.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
16. No...a president with a brain and a Congress with a brain could avoid the recession coming our way..
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

but we have GOP types in charge/

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
17. I'm speaking more on what Congress would be and has been contributing to the mix
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:38 PM
May 2017

Hillary as president would have still had these imbeciles holding back regulations that could prevent such a thing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Don't forget, if Hill won, we almost certainly would also
Wed May 24, 2017, 11:39 AM
May 2017

have gotten at least a majority in, and possibly control of, the senate. Schumer would be majority leader, and our party would control all committees. The same in the house was distantly but genuinely possible, but in any case our caucus, and power, would be substantially increased.

As for the economy, even rump knew it always does better with the Democrats in control.
Or perhaps he just remembered someone once told him that.


 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
32. This is true...
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:18 PM
May 2017

Of course, there is -right now, the potential for veto-proof majorities at the rate we're going. Not that it will save us from the impending and continuing disasters that have already been triggered by this abomination of a cheeto-faced wanna-be-dictator.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Wish I remember who said it, but someone who's
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:37 PM
May 2017

been in government for a long time pointed out that we can restore programs and other damage fairly quickly, that his worry was that damage to our constitutional norms may be more difficult to repair.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
34. Which is why a quick impeachment or removal is pretty crucial at this point.
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:41 PM
May 2017

In order to rebuke this swaying away from constitutional norms as we are seeing.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
9. I would believe this to be really bad news ...
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:30 PM
May 2017

I'm a bit confused by this because the drop of 11.4% is huge since
April is the start of the home buying season. Parents move from low
performing school districts to high performing school districts, so the
April - July selling period is big. August homes don't close by the time
schools start in late August, early September.

But the 11.4% drop is only from March's sales numbers 569K / 642K = 88.6
100 - 88.6 = 11.4%

The scary part is the 26.3% in the west, where I live, and I'm looking to
sell 2 houses in the next 3 months.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
11. These look like hard raw numbers ...
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:46 PM
May 2017

I'm not saying that are not seasonally adjusted, but
nothing in the article mentions that they are seasonally adjusted.

These number are just month-to-month numbers.
There was a drop of 11.4% in April from March numbers.

progree

(10,901 posts)
12. "seasonally adjusted annual rate of 569,000"
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:49 PM
May 2017

{excerpt}The Commerce Department said Tuesday that new home sales skidded 11.4% in April to a ***seasonally adjusted*** annual rate of 569,000. It was the biggest monthly drop since March 2015. Economists had expected a more modest retreat from March sales of 642,000, which were the highest since October 2007.{/excerpt}

Please see also table 1a in the official release (page 3) -- where the table is subtitled "seasonally adjusted"
https://www.census.gov/construction/nrs/pdf/newressales.pdf

The last 12 months, seasonally adjusted, in thousands are:

560, 559, 627, 567, 570, 577, 579, 548, 599, 607, 642, 569

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
13. Didn't help that tRump's first trade action was to hammer Canada on softwood lumber.
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:57 PM
May 2017

Imposed 20% tariffs on softwood lumber, jacking up costs to home builders, done without negotiation or study.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
24. And for the benefit of the
Tue May 23, 2017, 07:52 PM
May 2017

kochs, who own softwood plantations in the Southeast.

Gotta pander to those who are actually running the country!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
18. People know that their healthcare insurance is coming to
Tue May 23, 2017, 03:31 PM
May 2017

an end or will be extremely expensive, and they are not committing to purchases of houses and cars. The GOP and Trump have killed the Obama economy. Thank you , GOP and Trump voters -- I hope the crash hits you harder than me.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
22. A large part of it is that people are no longer selling starter homes anymore
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:32 PM
May 2017

People are more often renting out their old homes when they move, thereby depriving the housing market of houses to actually sell. Inventory for these homes is very low right now, when people are finding it harder and harder to buy new construction at exorbitant prices.

https://www.trulia.com/blog/trends/market-mismatch-q12017/

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
23. bingo
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:48 PM
May 2017

my son bought a starter home and wants to move on to a larger home. He is not selling he is renting the smaller home

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
25. These so called bidding wars for homes
Tue May 23, 2017, 09:46 PM
May 2017

is only happening in very small areas in the country. Its still a buyers market in most of the US. Many parts will never fully recover from the crash, just too many homes, too few people who can buy a home.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
27. Houses here in San Francisco aren't all sold immediately anymore.
Tue May 23, 2017, 10:56 PM
May 2017

Some of them have been on the market for over 2 weeks now. No obvious bidding wars.

This is really odd for this market.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
28. I'm in real estate and in Georgia, inventory is sparse
Wed May 24, 2017, 07:43 AM
May 2017

It's leading to bidding wars on homes and what amounts to a strong seller's market. We're seeing more mobile home sales and the like because there's literally nothing on the market in the lower price points.

My March numbers were the 2nd best in 5 years for me. My April numbers were off by nearly 20%, so this nationwide study seems to fairly closely track my personal experience.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
30. Well, yeah . . . .
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:44 AM
May 2017

. . . that is kind of the end result of indebting an entire generation out of the ability to finance big ticket items, seeing as how they're already paying 1/4-3/4 of a mortgage for their education. Way to go, Trapitalism.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
35. Sales are down in RI due to a lack of inventory
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:47 PM
May 2017

there is a lot of demand but no one is selling - all the low interest mortgages over the past decade plus high rents make it easier to owners to keep and rent out their old homes when they upgrade to a nice home.

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