Trump in Brussels: "The Germans are evil, very evil"

[DonViejo]

Source: Spiegel Online

At the meeting with the EU leaders Donald Trump has criticized massive criticism of Germany. The SPIEGEL learned from the circle of participants the exact wording.

© By Peter Müller , Brussels

Thursday, 25.05.2017 21:35 clock

US President Donald Trump complained bitterly about the German trade surplus on his meeting with the EU top in Brussels. "The Germans are evil, very evil," said Trump. This was learned by the SPIEGEL from participants in the meeting.

Trump said, "Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US, and we'll stop that."

At the meeting, EU Commissioner Jean-Claude Juncker took the side of the Germans and disagreed with Trumps Schelte. Free trade is a good thing for all, said the Commissioner. Juncker had tried a friendly tone, but was hard on the matter, says the participants.

At about an hour's meeting, Trump first met with President Donald Tusk and Commissioner Jean-Claude Juncker, after about 45 minutes, other members of the European Parliament came, including the President of the European Parliament Antonio Tajani and the EU's chief diplomat Federica Mogherini. (An analysis of the meeting can be found here .)

###

Read more: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-bei-der-eu-die-deutschen-sind-boese-sehr-boese-a-1149282.html

---

-------------------------------------------------

‘The Germans are bad, very bad’: Trump pledges to ‘stop’ German car sales to US

SARAH K. BURRIS
25 MAY 2017 AT 16:17 ET

President Donald Trump is ready to fight Germany in an auto battle according to Germany’s Der Spiegel.

Trump got a chilly reception at the NATO summit in Belgium after attacking fellow members. But he was caught pledging a battle with German automakers as part of his anger with “back dues” he feels the country owes to NATO. As CNN’s Jake Tapper noted, “Trump seems to think it’s like a country club.”

In a discussion about the country’s trade surplus, Trump said “The Germans are evil, very evil.”

“Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US, and we’ll stop that,” sources told Der Spiegel

According to the report, EU Commissioner Jean-Claude Juncker took up for Germany explaining that “free trade is good for all.”

more
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/the-germans-are-bad-very-bad-trump-pledges-to-stop-german-car-sales-to-us/

[hibbing]

1. Stop the insanity n/t

[MBS]

51. yes, PLEASE. It's truly unbearable.

[Honeycombe8]

66. Yes...PLEASE. Our allies are evil, and Duterte and Putin are good leaders? This is insanity. nt

[Freethinker65]

103. Don't forget about "smart cookie" Kim Jong Un

[Honeycombe8]

126. +1. nt

[BeyondGeography]

2. Really?

The President of the United States said that?

Oy.

[onit2day]

116. Like every other industrialized nation We need a VAT tax

Value Added Tax on everything imported into our nation. It would end outsourcing of our jobs and bring manufacturing back home. It's what all other nations do to us. It replaces tariffs. If it's imported we tax it. If it's exported they tax it. That's fair trade

[WinkyDink]

134. No. UNLIKE "every other industrialized nation" our citizens must pay for health-care insurance, so a

VAT would add pain to many.

We also have a state sales tax in the majority of states.

[Turbineguy]

3. Lets me guess

suddenly it's 1943?

[sandensea]

82. Except the Axis has now switched continents.

Because the only evil German head of state these days, is a putz named Drumpf.

[JHB]

124. His prep for the trip was watching "Patton" again

[bora13]

4. sprechen sie

dumbass?
or even dummkopf?

[Sculpin Beauregard]

16. Scheisskopf

[mitch96]

60. Ya!!

Fliegende Scheiße Kopf
m

[Warpy]

5. I think he's finding western Europe a very hostile place

because they're onto him. He can't play them like he plays stupid Republicans in the US and it's driving him crazier.

This trip was such a bad idea that I sincerely doubt there will be many more.

[Kittycow]

58. And the press doesn't pander to him!

[Warpy]

61. The things I've been reading have been a lot gentler than I'd be

but there's a great deal of hilarity in France over the Great Handshake War.

[Kittycow]

76. I'll have to look into that further 8D

I've just been scanning along

[Adrahil]

6. Wait.... NOT the Onion????? NT

[Hoyt]

7. Trump is screwing us big time, pandering to those against trade -- GOPers and Democrats.

This will hurt us long-term.

[underpants]

8. Putin sees Germany as his most powerful competition in Europe

and Trump is his messenger boy.

[Kber]

20. Makes sense, when you look at it that way.

[underpants]

50. Putin's fantasy would be an American president chastising NATO & failing to reiterate US commitment

Putin's fantasy would be an American president chastising NATO & failing to reiterate US commitment to Article 5. Trump fulfilled it today.

[dalton99a]

87. Bingo.

[marylandblue]

9. Ich bin nein Berliner.

[Kittycow]

54. Good one :D

[OldHippieChick]

10. No wonder Angela Merkel was so happy to see

Obama. She was probably asking him what was needed to bring him back into the Presidency. Dear Lord. Germans are evil and Russians are good. This is George Orwell at his finest.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

11. Wait? What?

You sure he's not talking about watching Schindler's List?

You mean Germans, right now, are evil...for selling cars?

[LongTomH]

12. Ho-leeey Sheeiitt!!!!!

Put this guy back in his cage!!!!

[gademocrat7]

13. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

What a disgrace. I loathe this man.

[benpollard]

14. It didn't affect VW's stock price at all. Maybe tomorrow.

Or it could be that nobody takes Trump seriously and they're just going about their business as usual.

[wryter2000]

15. Muzzle that asshole!

First, Merkel had to put up with the shoulder massage from that idiot Bush. Now this!

[Leghorn21]

17. If I drop my head in shame any further, it'll be rolling around my ankles. Have mercy

dear baby Jesus in your cradle, I am begging now as never before.

[mountain grammy]

18. So do I have to trade in my VW

for a Russian car? Do Russians make cars?

[MedusaX]

19. WTF.. *45 effectively threatens to prohibit the importation of German cars into the US?

Trump said, "Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US, and we'll stop that."



So, not only fuck you to NATO & Germany

But also
to any US workers who happen to earn a living either selling or
repairing or
manufacturing/selling parts
for German brands of vehicles?

Please, FFS, someone explain to him the difference between CREATE & ELIMINATE
When it comes to jobs...

Just because they rhyme it does not mean they are interchangeable......

[Initech]

34. Time to go buy a Mercedes!

If only I could afford a Mercedes!

[3catwoman3]

73. Kinda like health care - you have...

...access, ie, you can go look, but you can't afford to buy.

[Tanuki]

21. Not. My. President.

[irisblue]

22. Is this for real? nt

[DonViejo]

26. The headline, translated by Google, quotes Trumpty Dumpty calling the Germans "evil"...

While whoever translated the article I gave RawStroy, quoted him as calling them "bad." As far as I know, Der Speigel is a reputable mainstream publication in Germany, I recall reading it in Elementary School about 100 years ago.

[irisblue]

30. Yeah my HS German class had a subscription too in the 70s. There are alot of tweets from

Journalists about this already.
This guy, this guy is a f-ing idiot ass.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

52. The headline is a mistranslation from English to German to English. Nuance gets lost.

tRump said "bad, bad". That gets translated into German, possibly with a slightly heavier nuance. Then it gets translated back into English with again a slightly heavier nuance as "evil, evil". It's enough that tRump is stupidly clueless about diplomacy without attributing even less diplomatic language when translation is to blame.

It's like the old game "telephone whispers".

In the early days of computer translation, the researchers had a program translate a phrase into Russian and then translated back. It was an old biblical phrase: "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." It came back as "The wine is strong but the meat was spoiled."

[irisblue]

59. Well I do think trump is a spoiled meat(sack)

Thanks

[Volaris]

84. Ask any woman who's ever had a bad bar hookup, and I would bet

Their opinion of that translation is closer to accurate than not...

Just sayin lol

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

85. The word "bad" can be translated into German as

"schlecht" or "böse." Apparently Der Speigel used the word "böse," which usually re-translates to English as "evil," a rather stronger word than "bad." But even if Dolt 45 called the Germans merely "bad" and not "evil," it was still an incredibly stupid, hamfisted thing to say, and it will have some Foreign Services people scrambling to try to repair the damage. Working for Trump is like being the guy who walks with a shovel behind the elephant in the circus parade.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

92. Thanks for confirmation and I agree, it is an incredibly stupid hamfisted thing to say. . . . nt

[lark]

23. This doesn't even sound like the beginnings of dementia.

It really sounds like it's worse than that. A lot of Alzheimers patients get very weirdly and unnecessarily aggressive and mean and oh boy does that sound like him. This is totally insane.

He's putting the whole world at risk and Repugs don't care because they want to redo America so that all the $ (not just most) goes to the oligarchs and they hope the rest of us die young due to slave wages and no affordable healthcare. They are willing for Russia to put Europe in flames and sit on the sidelines so that Putin continues to steal elections for them, such disgusting fools.

[flibbitygiblets]

38. Then how come he behaves himself when he's getting praise and attention?

I would be inclined to agree with the Alzheimer's/Dementia theory, except the bad behavior only comes out when he doesn't get his way.

The Saudi's met him on the tarmac and immediately presented him with an award just for showing up (like the entitled brat he is). Never mind that they were buttering him up for their own gain, they know he falls for it every time. So do the Russians.

The Europeans have different expectations. They don't give him accolades. They know what's at stake, and they know he isn't up to the task. They expect him to act with respect and collaboration. So when he doesn't get the slobbering praise he thinks he deserves, he acts like a high school bully, shoving heads of state and calling people names. And lecturing NATO members for (oh irony of ironies), not paying their bills.

[Tanuki]

68. Don't forget that his first wife testified under oath that he flew into a rage,

tore out her hair and raped her because his cosmetic scalp surgery didn't turn out as he had hoped and he blamed her for recommending the surgeon. That allegedly happened in 1989, so his out-of-control aggression is not of recent onset. The Republicans put him forward as their candidate anyway.

[adigal]

72. I have said this for MONTHS!!!! He has Alzheimers, and it is accelerating from the stress nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

114. Nah, he's just an asshole. When he thinks he's being treated badly, he lashes out.

He has Obama envy Pres. Obama received rockstar treatment while tRump drew protest crowds. That set him off and he lashed out, as he always does when he feels public humiliation. Someone's gonna pay.

[SeattleVet]

117. Why can't it be both...

They're not mutually exclusive. I think that he's an asshole (and always has been - just ask any New Yorker) WITH dementia.

[kwassa]

128. Narcissistic personality disorder. He has always been this way.

[onetexan]

24. So glad Obama is there with Angela to reassure the German people

the Orange Idiot is insane, and that we Americans agree with them this assinine twit is off his rocker.

[politicaljunkie41910]

25. Remember this is the guy who picked a fight with the Pope. God help us all.

[flibbitygiblets]

27. Trumpy's just sore that Obama got a huge welcome earlier today

His ego can't handle it.

[Blue_Tires]

43. +1000

That's the bottom line, plain and simple

[bettyellen]

47. That and there's an election coming up, he was cool to Macron and pretended he'd supported him....

The Russians still trying to hurt Merkyl.

[Blue_Roses]

55. Yes

That's exactly right!

[harun]

135. +1

[southerncrone]

28. Part of his orders from Pootin. Alienate Europe, Germany first. And he IS German! Do the math.

[JHan]

29. the president y'all

[LSFL]

31. Jesus

Jesus titty f***ing Christ.

That is all.

[Initech]

41. He's quite literally gone mad with power.

Someone out there must stop him.

[Initech]

32. NEIN!!!!!!

[WinkyDink]

33. O. M. G. "We'll stop that." W. T. H.?!? HE IS A MADMAN. Is his HORSE our VP yet?!

[jehop61]

35. Hey,

Who cares if Germany and Britain's leaders are p.od. They are run by women!

[Ligyron]

36. It will take us years to re-build good relations with the rest of the planet.

Before it's over, even Russia will be disgusted with him.

[muntrv]

37. Like his grandfather Friedrich?

[0rganism]

39. waiting for him to double down by bringing up the Holocaust

"See? See? They're EVIL! totally EVIL!"

[yallerdawg]

40. We'll have to stop our evil shipping to USA!

[RKP5637]

42. Trump, is making himself irrelevant in the worldview and more and more of a laughing stock

every time he opens his mouth. He's a World Class Idiot worldwide!

[Grammy23]

45. Holy moly! What is going on here?

I know we all have our theories about what his problem is but this is way beyond just speculating or making jokes. Congress needs to sit down and come up with a plan of action quickly. We must demand that it be done ASAP. Enough is enough!

Anger doesn't begin to cover how I feel. I am mad, but most of all, I am frightened for what he is doing to this country. I don't know what his intent is, nor do I care. I just see what the results are. This has gone on far too long. Are the people we sent to Washington to do the people's business paying attention to what he is doing?? Do we need to march...in large numbers if necessary...on Washington to insist that they hear our cries?

[dhill926]

46. he'll have to pry my Audi from my cold, dead hands....

which even in death....will be bigger than his....

[Blue_Tires]

48. So for those keeping score:

Trump is a hardline hamfisted bully with our closest allies...

But meeting with the Russians/Saudis/Duterte becomes an all-smiling glad-handing mutual handjob admiration society...

[Mosby]

71. exactly. nt

[ellie]

49. Jesus Christ

[kristopher]

53. Someone's Putin words in Donnie's mouth.

[grantcart]

62. I wonder if he has an ear piece so he can take it in real time.

[kristopher]

99. He probably has it installed...

...rectally to fool the FBI.

[kstewart33]

56. Despicable, ignorant, boorish, condescending, arrogant, and inexcusably rude.

Is there a closet in the White House with an unbreakable lock on the door?

[SCVDem]

63. My 2000 BMW Z-3

Runs better at 200,000+ than any American car I ever had.

Screw it! Shutter the SOUTH CAROLINA plant which built it!

Damn Germans!

Dump ist ein pferdenasel!

[left-of-center2012]

64. Germans evil. Putin good.

[BumRushDaShow]

65. So his own grandfather is "evil, very evil".

[Alice11111]

97. I was thinking the same thing.

[Manly_Scream]

107. Well....

His grandparents (moreso his grandmother than grandfather) DID set off the chain of events that gave us a Trump for President.

So...Maybe they were.

[NastyRiffraff]

67. Not The Onion or Borowitz?

OMFG, What's next?

Nevermind, I don't want to know.

[stollen]

69. I love my BMW X3, built in Spartanburg, SC

Trump is making life tougher for those of us who live overseas. Fortunately, our car plates no longer have to indicate we're US anymore.

[KeepItReal]

80. BMW does indeed build cars in the USA.

Mine was built in Munich.

I visited there decades ago. Germany was wonderful.

Trump is a clueless, Putin-run troll, who doesn't travel to anywhere other than his cheesy golf resorts.

[Duppers]

70. Yeah, kinda like the US is evil for selling so many cars

to China!

More evidence the man is so knows.not.he.knows.not ignorant and lacking in any diplomatic skills.

He is truly unfit for the office of the presidency.

[northoftheborder]

74. Not the Onion?????

[3catwoman3]

75. Can we just stitch...

...his lips shut?

[smirkymonkey]

83. You mean his anus?

[3catwoman3]

89. Both would be fine.

Let him burst from a build up of toxic waste.

[Initech]

77. German was almost the official language of the United States.

Could you imagine Trump speaking German? His pep rallies would be totally different!

[C Moon]

78. This may have something to do with it...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029114009

Thousands cheer Obama today in Berlin
Thousands of people cheered when Barack Obama took to the stage in front of the Brandenburg Gate on Thursday. The former US president participated in a public discussion that was part of the Protestant "Kirchentag," or Church Day, in Germany's capital.

[dalton99a]

88. Yep.

[BeyondGeography]

95. Everything

He saw Merkel and Obama smiling together, he saw the crowd size, he saw blood.

[Hekate]

79. Is this a sick joke?!

[unblock]

81. holy shit! he's gonna declare war on germany for invading belgium!

[chelsea0011]

86. So he wants to take Audi and BMW

cars away from his base supporters?

[dalton99a]

91. Well, Russian cars are better

The best

[chelsea0011]

93. And beautiful...

[mdbl]

90. trump has the diplomacy of an ostrich

he needs to bury his head in the stand before he completely screws up our relationship with other countries. How stupid can one person be? With trump, that question is never fully answered.

[Alice11111]

94. We can't let him out of the country again...he is like

his tweets, but walking, breathing and pushing.

[Rollo]

96. It's Trump's revenge on Germany for refusing to let Grandpa "Yukon Pimp" Trump back into Germany...

The Kaiser's government was none too happy about grandpa Trump's draft dodging, and made him persona non grata...

Meanwhile Papa Trump made his fortune running a whorehouse in the otherwise frozen North.

What a classy family.

[Solly Mack]

98. Angela Merkel causes Trump to feel even more insecure.

Sweet.

[displacedtexan]

100. Some woman on Chris Matthews' show just said Trump had had such a good week...

...and now, he'd come home to the news about Jared.

Am I in the Twilight Zone, or is she? I have no idea who she is, but damn! She's clueless. Trump has been a damned disgrace this week...and every other week, as well. Germany? evil? What a dumbass!

[Solly Mack]

101. For some, if Trump doesn't tweet anything too bad, they think it's a win.

Which lets us know how low their standards are.

[area51]

102. Wow, just wow.

[miyazaki]

104. If the Germans are evil for their cars, he'll double down on the Japanese.

How can this shit show get worse?
Keep watching.

[mhw]

105. He was always working for Putin.

I hope they nail his stupid traitor ass & slap the most severe sanctions on Russia that Putin's people revolt & ruin that f'ker forever.

[iluvtennis]

106. SMDH. Dumpty always goes the way of personal attacks calling Germans evil...

...he never does the due diligence and comes up with cogent rationale and arguments for the "policies" he wants to institute. PLEASE, enough of this madness.

[Stuart G]

108. One of the dumbest things he has ever said....

and that says a whole lot........dumb.....dumb....dumb....dumb....dumb....dumb.....

oh my.......Trump is stupid.........................

very stupid....if..and it looks like he did say this...................................

[roamer65]

109. He had better hope the BND doesn't have intercepted communications with Russians.

[paleotn]

110. Ummmm

most German automobiles sold in the US are made in the fucking US.... BMW in Greenville, SC Mercedes in Alabama. VW in Tennessee. OH, if he wants to start picking on Japan....how about the Subaru, Nissan and Toyota plants in the US. Fucking moron.

[SergeStorms]

111. Of course he'd never even CONSIDER.......

saying that about his good pals, the Russians. A country that interferes with our most revered democratic process is a "good friend". CAN WE PLEASE GET RID OF THIS JACKASS SOON? PLEASE!

[tammywammy]

112. I was going to trade in my VW Tiguan in 2019

When it's 10 years old, but I guess I should do it earlier.

[pablo_marmol]

113. Er hat die weisheit

mit einem schaumloeffel gegessen.

[47of74]

115. Hey Trump you orange idiot, on behalf of all my German ancestors I say...

...Fick dich, Scheißkopf!

[lambchopp59]

118. I have an inkling this may have to do more with a lot of german media that is critical of Frump

He's probably gotten wind of. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/trump-white-house-descends-into-chaos-and-scandal-a-1148569.html
Anyone calling Trump mentally incompetent is evil.

[Beacool]

119. The guy is a moron.

There has never been a bigger imbecile in the WH. I thought that Bush was a dummy, but he's Einstein compared to Trump.

[Doreen]

120. All I am finding are articles. Can someone put up a video of him saying that?

This is very bad but I still want to see it.

[Princess Turandot]

123. No vid, sadly! It took place in a closed door meeting: someone leaked it.

He was speaking with the Commissioner of the EU, Jean-Claude Juncker, who is also the PM of Luxembourg

[milestogo]

121. If he wants to see true evil he should look in the mirror.

[olddad56]

122. He says these things as if he is looking in a mirror when he says them.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

125. WHAT IS EXACT QUOTE - did he use the word "evil" or "bad" - NPR this morning is reporting it as

"bad," which concerns me - hate to think they are altering reality to soften his words to make him sound less offensive. For whatever reason.

Or is there some translation issue going on w the der spiegel reporting - English to German to English can give inaccurate results as any user of google translate can tell ya.

[oberliner]

130. He said bad

"The Germans are bad, very bad. Look at the millions of cars they're selling in the U.S. We will stop that."

(Referring to trade)

[DetlefK]

127. Evil? MUHAHAHA! If he knew german politics, he would freak out!

Merkel is the head of the "Conservatives". Compared to the US, the german Conservatives are moderate Republicans or moderate Democrats. And she's more to the left than her own party!

Germany has elections in fall, and guess who's the runner-up behind Merkel, the female establishment-candidate? A Social-Democrat!

And Germany's small-government, low-taxes, we-love-capitalism party? On social issues they are die-hard liberals!

[oberliner]

129. Headline is a lie

He said "bad" not "evil".

[Coventina]

131. I've never owned a German car, but I want to get one now, just to spite him.

WORST HUMAN BEING IN THE WORLD!!!!!

[barbtries]

132. the germans are evil?!

now if the rest of the world starts chanting americans are evil, why not? the fucking PRESIDENT says this!

i feel like we're going over the falls without a barrel. it's too much i tell you.

ETA you know, why be surprised. how can i continue to be shocked at what this asshole does. he slobbered all over the Saudis and they behead people, force women to cover from head to toe as if the sight of a woman would blind a man, won't even allow her to drive or walk to the store by herself! He calls up the president of the Philippines who has unleashed a wave of extrajudicial murders on the basis of possible involvement with drugs and kisses his ass, invites him to the WH. he says he had to let spies into the oval office because putin requested it and "what? i'm going to say no to putin?"

why am i surprised at this point. i guess in a way i'm really not. i'm shocked, but not surprised. that i still can be shocked, that's a surprise. but i really don't want to lose the basic human decency that gives rise to my shock. and so we go.

[raven mad]

133. Lets put him in a straight jacket and blast him with rap.