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sandensea

(21,622 posts)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:46 AM May 2017

Republican Greg Gianforte wins Montana special election

Source: CNN

Republican Greg Gianforte has won the special election for Montana's open US House seat, CNN projects, defeating Democrat Rob Quist and capping off a whirlwind final 36 hours of the campaign that saw Gianforte being charged for allegedly assaulting a reporter.

With 77% of precincts reporting, Gianforte had 159,757 votes - or 50.4% of the vote, compared to Quist who has 138,325 votes, 43.7% of the vote, according to Edison Research.

Gianforte was considered the favorite heading into Thursday's election to fill the seat once held by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, but that was before he allegedly "body-slammed" a reporter during his final campaign event in Bozeman on Wednesday.

By midnight Wednesday, the Gallatin County Sheriff's office had charged Gianforte with misdemeanor assault.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/montana-special-election-results/



Montana Sec. of State website: http://mtelectionresults.gov/resultsSW.aspx?typeFED&mapCTY
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Republican Greg Gianforte wins Montana special election (Original Post) sandensea May 2017 OP
Crap! He's live on MSNBC now, congratulating himself... Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #1
At least he was brief - his only virtue. sandensea May 2017 #9
The news story has gone national, it's baffling that he's willing to appear in public Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #11
Lowlifes are usually shameless as well. sandensea May 2017 #13
He said he was "sorry" in front of his fans Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #16
He'd better practice those crocodile tears. sandensea May 2017 #18
How anyone can countenance having voted for this violent nut job is beyond me Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #19
Let's face it: to many Republicans, ruffians and pirates are aspirational figures. sandensea May 2017 #21
We once had heroes in this country, elected officials who inspired us to be better Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #26
And we mostly have right-wing media to thank for that. sandensea May 2017 #28
Trump sure kept his promise and "drained the swamp" Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #32
Thugs are Repukes' idea of heroes meow2u3 May 2017 #61
Not only did they vote for him he raised quite a bit of money overnight. They're proud. onecaliberal May 2017 #40
It totally boggles the mind... Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #41
Yeah, that's what happens when a fascist is elected POTUS. onecaliberal May 2017 #42
And the media has gradually "normalized" this outrageous behavior Rhiannon12866 May 2017 #43
And there are no actual patriots in the Republican Party. onecaliberal May 2017 #58
AP should declare GOP voters of Montana to be deplorable losers milestogo May 2017 #2
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #10
Can forced resignation be part of a plea deal? Wabbajack_ May 2017 #3
If only! sandensea May 2017 #7
:( furtheradu May 2017 #4
Thanks furtheradu. MontanaMama May 2017 #29
You hang in there, feel Your grief, HEAL.. furtheradu May 2017 #33
Holy hell MontanaMama May 2017 #66
he says he's sorry jesskirablue42 May 2017 #5
And there it is, American Conservatism with the integrity of Adam Lanza. Dawson Leery May 2017 #6
Bullies, cads, and crooks are aspirational figures for many of our fellow Americans. sandensea May 2017 #8
Montana shit itself. hay rick May 2017 #12
There was no 'winner' in this election, only losers Matthew Rose May 2017 #14
Can someone explain why the Dem's ran flibbitygiblets May 2017 #15
Quist was not a bad candidate. It was a low turnout special election in a red state. SunSeeker May 2017 #23
+1 n/t MBS May 2017 #44
The party doesn't pick its candidates. hay rick May 2017 #30
The party does pick the candidates. former9thward May 2017 #56
It's a two way street. hay rick May 2017 #69
Well, if a reality TV persona... llmart May 2017 #51
Does Congress need any more criminals? What a dirty shame. n/t Judi Lynn May 2017 #17
Ain't it though. sandensea May 2017 #25
Imagine if a Democrat had done that. ucrdem May 2017 #20
Remember Susan McDougal went to prison for contempt of court, wore leg irons, Judi Lynn May 2017 #22
Medieval. ucrdem May 2017 #27
He'd also resign or likely lose the election Juliusseizure May 2017 #68
Lock him up!!! benpollard May 2017 #24
I guess Russia already has Montana locked up. olddad56 May 2017 #31
You're not kidding. Greg the Goon outspent Quist four to one. sandensea May 2017 #34
Great. They now have a thug congressman to go along with their sexual predator president. BlueStater May 2017 #35
The best gummint money can buy. sandensea May 2017 #36
This is a new low DemKittyNC May 2017 #37
Don't be. sandensea May 2017 #38
Thanks DemKittyNC May 2017 #39
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter Norbert May 2017 #45
Republicans will regret this C_U_L8R May 2017 #46
except in Montana where they obviously like this kind of idiot mdbl May 2017 #47
Prosecute this asshole mdbl May 2017 #48
Prosecute for what? former9thward May 2017 #57
ok a civil suit then mdbl May 2017 #70
Remember videohead5 May 2017 #49
Body slam rallied his base, grabbed headlines bucolic_frolic May 2017 #50
I don't understand these RW fuckwits wolfie001 May 2017 #52
Montana suicides keithbvadu2 May 2017 #53
That election was over before the body slamming incident Seasider May 2017 #54
I was about to say that melm00se May 2017 #55
So much for the Democratic wave that will sweep old guy May 2017 #59
So true! denvine May 2017 #62
Sanders Focused On Montana, But Ignores Ossoff and Georgia Race TomCADem May 2017 #60
He's a meanie!!! QC May 2017 #65
DNC is deploying Sanders? Says who? LisaL May 2017 #71
Early voting won him the election Bradical79 May 2017 #63
House of Reps should refuse to seat the Montana body slammer, but TryLogic May 2017 #64
They should recall him. n/t gldstwmn May 2017 #67

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
9. At least he was brief - his only virtue.
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:59 AM
May 2017

Still, he appears to have won by 6% - in a state Dump carried by 21.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
11. The news story has gone national, it's baffling that he's willing to appear in public
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:03 AM
May 2017

Let alone to congratulate himself and have the nerve to criticize his opposition.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
16. He said he was "sorry" in front of his fans
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:12 AM
May 2017

So I guess he assumes that's all it takes... And who would continue to support him after learning what he was like??? I agree, what currently passes for acceptable behavior in this country now is horrifying...

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
19. How anyone can countenance having voted for this violent nut job is beyond me
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:28 AM
May 2017

But he's only emulating the despicable behavior that's occurring at a national level.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
21. Let's face it: to many Republicans, ruffians and pirates are aspirational figures.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:34 AM
May 2017

They're the "men" they wish they could be.

If, God forbid, we all lose our health coverage, childish daydreams like those will be the last thing on their minds.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
26. We once had heroes in this country, elected officials who inspired us to be better
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:42 AM
May 2017

These days, the majority of news stories on a daily basis are speculating about how and when they broke the law.

And I sure agree. Presidents and members of Congress were elected to make things better for all of us. But the current elections have left us with officials - from the top down - who want to take things away from us and make things more difficult for those who are already struggling. It's not supposed to work that way.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
28. And we mostly have right-wing media to thank for that.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:47 AM
May 2017

25 years of a well-oiled, corporate-funded scream machine telling low-information voters that Democrats "wanna take all yo' money, trucks, Bibles, and guns - an' give it to the n***ers and fawners" has had a real effect on our politics.

Cheeto and Gianforte were inevitable, given those conditions.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
32. Trump sure kept his promise and "drained the swamp"
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:52 AM
May 2017

And now the most dangerous monsters have crawled out of the ooze and are walking among us.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
61. Thugs are Repukes' idea of heroes
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:20 AM
May 2017

So are gangbangers, mobsters, white supremacist gangs, and other criminal figures.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
41. It totally boggles the mind...
Fri May 26, 2017, 03:06 AM
May 2017

What's going on now has clearly brought out the worst of us. After decades of progress, making hate acceptable again. It started at the top - and has spread.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
43. And the media has gradually "normalized" this outrageous behavior
Fri May 26, 2017, 03:15 AM
May 2017

We've gotten used to it now, apparently nothing is now shocking or off limits.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
7. If only!
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:54 AM
May 2017

But the Sherriff's his die-hard supporter, so he's unlikely to cooperate. And once Gianfarte's in Congress, they'll protect him.

Eddie Munster will see to that.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
29. Thanks furtheradu.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:47 AM
May 2017

You're one of the few reassuring and supportive folks on here tonight for those of us in Montana grieving another election disaster. Means a lot. I'm feeling pissed and defensive tonight.

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
33. You hang in there, feel Your grief, HEAL..
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:07 AM
May 2017

& when You can, come back & fight.
I'm grieving too, yet I KNOW this mess is temporary. WE keep the Faith, & RESIST.
I KNOW..cuz "I'm south of Texas"
Montana!

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
66. Holy hell
Fri May 26, 2017, 10:44 AM
May 2017

Yes you do know how it is...

We'll get 'em. The dam is about to burst. Feeling feisty today!!





 

jesskirablue42

(50 posts)
5. he says he's sorry
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:51 AM
May 2017

and someone in the crowd yells out "you're forgiven"..

I know the sound of battered wife syndrome when I hear it.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
8. Bullies, cads, and crooks are aspirational figures for many of our fellow Americans.
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:56 AM
May 2017

And Gianfarte fits all three.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
15. Can someone explain why the Dem's ran
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:09 AM
May 2017

a banjo player who'd never held, or even run for, any kind of public office before? I'm sure he's a nice guy, but not much of a public service resume, based on his own website.

They could have run a cowboy-hatted toaster oven and not done much worse with Trumpy out there shitting all over America and abroad; but Imagine what could have been accomplished with an actual strategy!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
23. Quist was not a bad candidate. It was a low turnout special election in a red state.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:34 AM
May 2017

And despite all that he only lost by 6 points in a state Trump carried by 20 points.

Let's not beat ourselves up. We have 2018 still coming up and Gianforte will have to run again, this time with everyone knowing (before they vote!) about the assault and how he lied about it.

hay rick

(7,604 posts)
30. The party doesn't pick its candidates.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:51 AM
May 2017

The candidates pick themselves and if there's more than one the voters decide. If there is a good Democratic candidate waiting in the wings it would be difficult to blame him for avoiding a short duration campaign for a low-turnout special election against a candidate with a huge war chest and name recognition left over from a recently failed gubernatorial bid. And the asshole-in-chief carried the state by 20 just 6 months ago. Quist was a sacrificial lamb who did reasonably well.

former9thward

(31,974 posts)
56. The party does pick the candidates.
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:36 AM
May 2017

That is exactly what the purpose of the Democratic House Campaign Committee is. They look at potential candidates in every House district and see who is the most viable. They push money to the ones they think can win. If they want candidate A to win the Democratic primary and she has a million dollars as a result and candidate B has $50,000 guess who is going to win?

In many districts the DHCC stays out because they think no Democrat can win. In those districts the voters pick whatever candidate is going to be the "sacrificial lamb" as you put it.

hay rick

(7,604 posts)
69. It's a two way street.
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:59 PM
May 2017

Typically candidates in competitive districts try to sell their wares to the DCCC- but that process starts with the candidate deciding they want to run. I live in such a district so I had a front row seat in 2016. The D-trip "word on the street" scared away some candidates but we still ended up with a 3 person primary- won by the well-funded DCCC candidate. He was a lousy political candidate and lost the election.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
51. Well, if a reality TV persona...
Fri May 26, 2017, 06:48 AM
May 2017

with zero experience who brags openly about grabbing women and assaulting them can win the Presidency then that sets a precedent for experience not mattering one iota in this country any longer.

It doesn't matter who the Dems would have run. It's Montana.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
25. Ain't it though.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:41 AM
May 2017

Still, Greedy Greg seems to have won with around 7% - in a state Cheeto carried by 21.

This fits the pattern in all these special elections: a 10-20% shift in favor of Democrats - even when they're being outspent four-to-one, as was the case here.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
20. Imagine if a Democrat had done that.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:28 AM
May 2017

It would be game over 5 minutes later and he'd be in a super-max private prison by now.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
22. Remember Susan McDougal went to prison for contempt of court, wore leg irons,
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:34 AM
May 2017

to make sure she wouldn't go wild and trash the place, apparently, thanks to the "wisdom" of Ken Starr, White Water prosecutor against Bill Clinton.

She refused to testify, went to prison, solitary, and wore leg irons. Democrat.

The world was already so damned ugly at the hands of Republicans, even then!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
27. Medieval.
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:42 AM
May 2017

I'd forgotten that insanity. If this guy had a shred of decency he'd have resigned immediately. If there's a lawsuit he might have to sooner or later, sooner if Montanans don't like being an international laughingstock.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
68. He'd also resign or likely lose the election
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:49 PM
May 2017

Aside from degree of criminal penalty, a dem is much more likely to lose his base of support if he body slammed a news reporter.

In Republican circles, that inevitably gets a chuckle, high-fives, and more donations if the reporter is perceived as a "libtard.". In Dem circles, it generally would invite insults and strong dissent.

benpollard

(199 posts)
24. Lock him up!!!
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:39 AM
May 2017

That will never happen, though. Conservatives like leaders who act tough and especially if they profess their love for the Great Jebus.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
34. You're not kidding. Greg the Goon outspent Quist four to one.
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:12 AM
May 2017

My guess is that at least 30% of that were Russian moneys laundered through right-wing SuperPACs and other cutouts.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
35. Great. They now have a thug congressman to go along with their sexual predator president.
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:12 AM
May 2017

They must be so proud.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
36. The best gummint money can buy.
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:21 AM
May 2017

Putin and all the John Birch boardroom brigands spent big money to make all this happen - four-to-one, in this case.

The John Birchers because they want to live above the law and tax-free.

And Putin because he knows how much damage that would cause America.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
38. Don't be.
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:46 AM
May 2017

Greg the Goon won by around 7% - in a state Cheeto carried by 21.

And this fits the pattern in all these special elections: a 10-20% shift in favor of Democrats - even when they're being outspent four-to-one, as was the case here.

If we can maintain this trend, our next Speaker is Nancy Pelosi.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
45. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter
Fri May 26, 2017, 04:24 AM
May 2017

I mean, seriously, this isn't France. We seem to enjoy fucking ourselves over.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
46. Republicans will regret this
Fri May 26, 2017, 05:26 AM
May 2017

This goober is a real example
of everything that is wrong with
the GOP. It's a PR and political
albatross for them. And we will
gleefully flog them with it in
every upcoming election.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
48. Prosecute this asshole
Fri May 26, 2017, 05:53 AM
May 2017

I don't care if the voters of Montana are too stupid to make the right decision or not.

former9thward

(31,974 posts)
57. Prosecute for what?
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:38 AM
May 2017

Misdemeanor assault is a probation and/or community service sentence everywhere.

videohead5

(2,171 posts)
49. Remember
Fri May 26, 2017, 06:04 AM
May 2017

I think around 70% had already voted in early voting.if nothing else I think it would have been much much closer if the attack would have happened a couple of weeks ago.

wolfie001

(2,227 posts)
52. I don't understand these RW fuckwits
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:19 AM
May 2017

No do I care to. Hateful, nasty bastards, every one of 'em. Fuck 'em!

Seasider

(169 posts)
54. That election was over before the body slamming incident
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:48 AM
May 2017

About 2/3rds of Montana voters had already voted before that incident. The Democrats would've needed a huge surge in voter turnout to make a difference and that didn't happen. But even with that incident, Montana is a pretty red state and I'm sure Gianforte's actions pleased voters on the far right who share Trump's disdain of reporters. In their minds, that reporter got what was coming to him.

It also didn't help that the Democrats did not have a very viable candidate in Rob Quist.

melm00se

(4,990 posts)
55. I was about to say that
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:16 AM
May 2017

according to one report 259,558 of 357,596 absentee ballots had been returned as of Wednesday night so those votes were already in before Candidate (now Congressman) Chucklehead had his melt down.

This begs the question: Do the benefits of early voting offset the advantages of observing the candidate during the most stressful aspect of the campaign (the last few days of the campaign when all the chips are on the table and everything is on the line)?

old guy

(3,283 posts)
59. So much for the Democratic wave that will sweep
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:44 AM
May 2017

us into power and change the direction of the country.

denvine

(799 posts)
62. So true!
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:29 AM
May 2017

The last couple of years we kept hearing about the death of the Republican Party. The 2016 election was supposed to be a Democratic sweep! We just may have to face the fact that a large percentage of our populace would vote for Charles Manson if he had an (R) behind his name. Until we are able to turn down the noise and lies of FOX and the likes these people are addicted to them. Like Trump said, "I could shoot someone on Fifth Ave. and not lose any voters". This is probably the most insightful phrase he has ever spoken. One of the problems is getting Democrats out to vote. On that note, I feel awful for us as a country today but I particularly feel awful for Montana Democrats today. You are not alone. So many of us feel your pain and disappointment. Hell, I live in Kentucky. Our Senators are F#%king Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul and my Rep is Tea Party Thomas Massie. We can only hope that continued engagement, perseverance and non-stop truth seeking will carry us through this. It also helps that these morons will bury themselves eventually.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
60. Sanders Focused On Montana, But Ignores Ossoff and Georgia Race
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:19 AM
May 2017

The Montana race was a longshot while the Georgia race is expected to be much closer. Yet, the DNC is deploying Bernie in Montana, but not Georgia?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/sanders-stumps-for-democrat-in-tight-montana-race/2017/05/21/19b280d0-3e34-11e7-8c25-44d09ff5a4a8_story.html?utm_term=.16a071dea441

BUTTE, Mont. — For months, Democrats were careful not to promise too much about Montana’s May 25 special election. Hillary Clinton had lost the state by 20.2 points. Rob Quist, the folk-singing Democratic candidate for Congress, had never run for office before. Losing a close race would grant a moral victory; raising the stakes and losing might give Republicans a boost.

On Saturday, in front of 3,000 cheering voters at this Democratic city’s Civic Center, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) raised the stakes.

“The eyes of the country, actually eyes all over the world, are on the great state of Montana,” said Sanders. “People are asking: Is it possible for working people, for seniors, for ordinary people, to come together and successfully defeat a candidate of the millionaires? They’ll know it if you do it in Montana.”

Sanders’s much-anticipated visit kicked off the final stretch of voting in a race that has become closer than either party might have expected. Quist, 69, has raised more than $5 million, nearly doubling the last Democratic candidate for Montana’s sole House seat. Millions of dollars have poured in for Greg Gianforte, 56, a software entrepreneur who won the GOP nomination after narrowly losing the 2016 race for governor — running nearly 10 points behind Donald Trump.



 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
63. Early voting won him the election
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

A large majority of votes were cast already. Heard of a lot of people calling wanting to change their vote, but there's no mechanism for that.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
64. House of Reps should refuse to seat the Montana body slammer, but
Fri May 26, 2017, 10:31 AM
May 2017

of course, they will look the other way and/or defend him because Republicans have no integrity. No integrity.

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