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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:02 AM May 2017

Trump unleashes Sunday morning tweet-spasm: White House leaks are fabricated lies made up by...

Source: RawStory



Trump unleashes Sunday morning tweet-spasm: White House leaks ‘are fabricated lies made up by #FakeNews’

DAVID EDWARDS
28 MAY 2017 AT 08:51 ET

President Donald Trump on Sunday lashed out at the media for publishing leaks about chaos in the White House and revealing that his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, had become a focus of the FBI investigation.








As The New York Times reported, President Trump returned from a nine day overseas trip to a White House in turmoil and the news that Kushner had tried to open backchannel communitcations with Russia before the president took office.

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/trump-unleashes-sunday-morning-tweet-spasm-white-house-leaks-are-fabricated-lies-made-up-by-fakenews/
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Trump unleashes Sunday morning tweet-spasm: White House leaks are fabricated lies made up by... (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
does he believe that because he once announced 'sources' told him Pres Obama did not have an America luvMIdog May 2017 #1
Wasn't he real fond of the "People are saying..." forgotmylogin May 2017 #24
yep he was luvMIdog May 2017 #25
His language is more couched now Sanity Claws May 2017 #2
@notsorealDonaldTrump hexola May 2017 #4
Awwww...Baby got his phone back! spiderpig May 2017 #3
Tweet-shart! truthisfreedom May 2017 #5
Correct me if I'm wrong... brooklynite May 2017 #6
They want to have it every which way: McMaster and others (like Fox) insisting whatever shady deurbano May 2017 #13
Stop trying to use logic with this administration. EllieBC May 2017 #21
So It Looks Like The Strategy Of The White House & Repugs Is..... global1 May 2017 #7
He's baaaack! BarbD May 2017 #22
I'd call it an "attempted coup" FakeNoose May 2017 #27
Shut the fuck up Donnie! berksdem May 2017 #8
This is the correct response. LOL Lib May 2017 #26
Sooooo, Who is to believed? The media or the "Biggest Liar in the World" Stuart G May 2017 #9
"It is my opinion" Tactical Peek May 2017 #10
The lsos is right about one thing randr May 2017 #11
This essentially concedes he knows the accusations are damaging karynnj May 2017 #12
Tiny hands, tiny mind Mountain Mule May 2017 #14
He must deny the validity of any "back channel" reports for 2 reasons: Keep Putin happy & Plausible MedusaX May 2017 #15
There's a vast difference between public reports from WaPo and the NYT Mr. Ected May 2017 #16
Moran yelps again jpak May 2017 #17
Fake pResident. roamer65 May 2017 #18
So he was hunting for non-existant leakers Bradical79 May 2017 #19
Hey 45! justgamma May 2017 #20
Very interesting! BarbD May 2017 #23
Yes, and his net worth is dependent upon how he feels that day. So... Solly Mack May 2017 #28

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
1. does he believe that because he once announced 'sources' told him Pres Obama did not have an America
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:06 AM
May 2017

n birth certificate? Just because HE has no real sources when he lies, doesn't equate to news media that has to protect their sources for news. Don't worry 45, the sources will become very clear in the future as your crimes are being uncovered.

forgotmylogin

(7,496 posts)
24. Wasn't he real fond of the "People are saying..."
Sun May 28, 2017, 04:10 PM
May 2017

construct to cover his behind on all the lies he spreads?

Sanity Claws

(21,822 posts)
2. His language is more couched now
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:20 AM
May 2017

He now says in my opinion, very possible, etc.
Wonder what that change means. Did his lawyers advise him that failure to couch his language could lead to a defamation suit? Or did he want to avoid what happened following his claims of being wiretapped?

deurbano

(2,891 posts)
13. They want to have it every which way: McMaster and others (like Fox) insisting whatever shady
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:57 AM
May 2017

thing he or his other thugs have done (or said) is perfectly appropriate... 45 and others (like his thugs, Congressional Republicans and Fox) saying the REAL problem is leaking.... and ALSO, it's "fake news."

global1

(25,166 posts)
7. So It Looks Like The Strategy Of The White House & Repugs Is.....
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:40 AM
May 2017

circle the wagons. Looks like Trump will blame the leakers, the news media and his opponents (the Dems). But will he (the WH) cooperate with the requests for information by the investigative committee's? Will he (the WH) provide them with backup info that clears him and his people or will he refuse to cooperate?

In the end the Special Counsel - with the back-up of the FBI - will have the goods on Trump and his team(s) from the primaries to the WH. This info will not be fake news - it will be fact.

I have to say I'm quite surprised by Mattis & McMaster backing up Trump. I know they work for the guy and they have to - but I ask are they doing it for their job or are they complicit with the treasonous acts that appear to have been acted upon?

Since the Nov. election - I've used the 'coup' word as to what is happening to this country. Given the revelations of the past couple of weeks and the actions of Trump and his people - I have to still feel that we are in the midst of a 'coup' in this country.

If we are it must cut deep and it might even involve the military.

I still say that if Trump goes down - he'll bring down the whole Repug Party - either because they were part and parcel to the 'coup' or if not - he'll make something up to take them down with him. I believe he is holding that over their heads and that is why they always come to his protection in these times of damning info being reported.

The Repug Party was in on this from the beginning or the Russian hacking also penetrated their computers and is holding that info in order to blackmail them into supporting this Russian attack.

The Repugs are protecting their jobs. Therefore in the next days and weeks to come we'll be seeing the rank and file Repugs in the House and Senate circle the wagons around Trump as well.

Everytime we think that this all soon will come to an end - we get the pushback from the WH and the Repugs that just extends this misery that they are putting us through. We are still in the cover-up mode. I don't know what kind of info has to come out and be reported that will put the final nail in Trump's and the Repugs coffin.

Right now I'm feeling very demoralized. I don't have another word for it. I guess in the vernacular of Trump - it's SAD.

BarbD

(1,190 posts)
22. He's baaaack!
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:25 PM
May 2017

I believe you're right about a coup, which is why we have to allow time for the net of truth to surround these treasonous fish before we haul them in. They are in it for the money and the short term. The only way I can sleep at all at night is because I believe we will prevail.

FakeNoose

(32,328 posts)
27. I'd call it an "attempted coup"
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:01 AM
May 2017

They're sure trying hard, but it hasn't actually happened yet.

We need to keep on our toes and use everything we've got to keep this from happening.






Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
9. Sooooo, Who is to believed? The media or the "Biggest Liar in the World"
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:44 AM
May 2017

Sure, the media gets it wrong sometimes...buttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Someone who is known for lying and exaggerating...He is .."Biggest Liar in the World"..

Who is to believed???.............you tell me..

Here is an example...during the election the "Biggest Liar in the World" told coal miners that he would return jobs to the industry. The is he promised more jobs to those who have lost jobs due to less demand for the product.(coal)..Within the last few days, the White House has had to tell miners that it is not possible to return jobs, because the demand for coal is much less than even a few years ago. In effect, the "Biggest Liar" ...lied again.

Tactical Peek

(1,204 posts)
10. "It is my opinion"
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:44 AM
May 2017


Obviously that crack tweet-cleanup team of the very best, really excellent top-drawer lawyers, you better believe it, have reviewed this tweet and their handiwork shines through bigly.

randr

(12,408 posts)
11. The lsos is right about one thing
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:45 AM
May 2017

The Free Press of America is certainly now his enemy.
We all get to sit back and watch as the man/baby goes up against the greatest right ever given to the people of planet Earth.

karynnj

(59,474 posts)
12. This essentially concedes he knows the accusations are damaging
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:54 AM
May 2017

Rather than responding as McMasters did to normalize the accusation by speaking of past back channels, he is questioning - but not quite denying - the charges. Many RW pundits were following McMasters' lead - speaking of everything from the back channels used by President Kennedy to speak directly to Russia to avoid nuclear war over Cuba .. which led to the famous phone line between the countries to Obama asking Kerry to see if Oman could work with the Obama administration in creating a back channel for talks with Iran. The difference, of course, was that Kennedy and Obama, as Presidents, had the right to do this.

I suspect where McMasters was going was that this was started AFTER the election and Kushner/Trump were speaking of something that could occur after Trump was President. The accusation would be worse if it were said to have been spoken of - say - a year ago, during the election. It IS interesting that Trump is not going in this direction and pointing out that it was consistent with his campaign promises to have a closer relationship with Russia and, in particular, to work with them to fight ISIS or to get peace in Syria. (Consider what had to be messaging to his base when he spoke of the NATO countries being willing to "join" his coalition to fight terrorism. Ignoring that NATO has been involved since 911 (though not on Iraq) and were part of Obama's 68 countries fighting ISIS - a fact that the right wing has ignored since it started.)

It may turn out that Kushner not putting the conversations/meetings on his clearance might be the easiest to prove wrongdoing. That it involved a known enemy country, accused of trying to destroy our democracy, should be a political disaster. That it isn't, shows how we really are two countries - and the Trump side is beyond my comprehension.

Another more damning suggestion was that Kushner/Flynn et al were speaking of removing sanctions in return for Russian banks providing loans, obviously at a surprisingly good rate to Trump related businesses.

I think the left, especially politicians and top pundits, to proceed slowly and carefully on this ... because there really is something here. Calling for the revocation of Kushner's clearance and demanding he not be in the NSC or any meeting where a clearance would be required would be a prudent demand. There is an excellent case to revoke his clearance. It is also likely that Trump would IGNORE that the Intelligence Community did this - leading to a Michael Flynn like controversy.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
14. Tiny hands, tiny mind
Sun May 28, 2017, 10:00 AM
May 2017

I just love waking up on Sunday morning of Memorial Day weekend to news of the Traitor's latest tweet tantrum. Another president - Obama? Hillary? - would be giving a talk about those who sacrificed their lives for our country. My Dad was 30 years career military and he must be turning in his grave at the freedoms the Traitor wants to get rid of that my Dad fought so hard to preserve for us all.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
15. He must deny the validity of any "back channel" reports for 2 reasons: Keep Putin happy & Plausible
Sun May 28, 2017, 10:45 AM
May 2017

Deniability for himself when he throws J-rod under the bus....

Remember... in *45-land
Loyalty/Protection for Family Only ...
and marriage isn't blood.....

When the evidence against J-rod is presented
*45 will say that
J-rod & Flynn conspired with Kislyak
unbeknownst to *45

Therefore, he is the Victim and blah blah...

Now, the fact that J-rod & Flynn were not present in the Oval office when 45 gave info to
Sergey & Sergei
(Reminds me of the 2 'Ivans' in the movie XXX)

Will be problematic for *45

Best case scenario is that
McMasters is a plant
And has been providing *45
With false intelligence to be tracked back to Russia

After all if Schiller did copy Comey's computer data
& *45 gave it to Sergey^2 then
The memory device has to be accessed by FSB
Whose to say that the drive &/or the data were not infected...???

Whose to say that any aircraft codes or other Intell shared was legitimate or current.....


On the bright side....
Jared is probably the biggest treasure trove of information regarding trump/Russia....
As he is part of it.

But this is a test of *45's loyalty to Jared

And if *45 throws him to the wolves...
that may be the catalyst for J-rod to deal
for lesser charges




Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
16. There's a vast difference between public reports from WaPo and the NYT
Sun May 28, 2017, 11:02 AM
May 2017

Which are designed to inform and notify the public of circumstances otherwise beyond our reach...

...and the actual collection of evidence to be adjudicated before one of the many tribunals in play with respect to Trump/Russia.

In the end, our opinions mean very little, except to the extent that we may exert pressure on our institutions to take action against overtly criminal and perhaps treasonous behavior.

There is no such thing as fake news in a court of law. Evidentiary standards apply, and a verdict in court is final. All these tweets about leaks and lies etc. are diversions to lead us off the scent. The real truth comes when indictments are handed down and the anonymous sources become real persons testifying against the alleged criminals.

Twitter exists in the now. Patience is a virtue.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
19. So he was hunting for non-existant leakers
Sun May 28, 2017, 11:53 AM
May 2017

leaking news that wasn't real. Sure Donny, whatever you say.

BarbD

(1,190 posts)
23. Very interesting!
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:33 PM
May 2017

Of course he wants to be president, but is he tarnished at all by the Russian influence?

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