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Judi Lynn

(160,452 posts)
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:13 PM May 2017

Portland Murder Suspect Calls Stabbings Patriotism In First Court Appearance

Source: Huffington Post

05/30/2017 08:03 pm ET
“Free speech or die, Portland!”
By Lydia O’Connor





In a chilling first court appearance on Tuesday, Portland stabbing suspect Jeremy Christian yelled about free speech and patriotism and called for more deaths.

“Free speech or die, Portland!” Christian, 35, yelled as he walked into his arraignment hearing, local NBC outlet KGW reported. “You got no safe place. This is America. Get out if you don’t like free speech!”

Christian is accused of stabbing three men ― Ricky John Best and Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche, who died from their injuries, and Micah David-Cole Fletcher, who is expected to survive ― after they tried to stop Christian from harassing two young women on a train in Portland, Oregon, because the women appeared to be Muslim.

“Death to the enemies of America. Leave this country if you hate our freedom. Death to Antifa!” he yelled in court Tuesday, referring to antifascism. “You call it terrorism, I call it patriotism. You hear me? Die.”


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-stabbing-arraignment_us_592def7ae4b0e95ac194cd5b?section=us_politics

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Portland Murder Suspect Calls Stabbings Patriotism In First Court Appearance (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2017 OP
Fuck him. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 47of74 May 2017 #1
+1000000000000000 Initech May 2017 #7
Just a slightly more extreme version of christx30 May 2017 #2
So much anger from the fascist right, Dawson Leery May 2017 #3
Insanity defense? Shadowsmith May 2017 #4
I dont see an insanity defense. defacto7 May 2017 #6
Oh I am sure the guys lawyers will try for it but then almost any defense lawyer would and if he is cstanleytech May 2017 #14
This is what the right wants workinclasszero May 2017 #5
Killing people is not free speech. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #8
Thank Trump for keeping us safe from terrorists. IronLionZion May 2017 #9
Where does so much hate come from? SergeStorms May 2017 #10
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, the republican party, and Elwood P Dowd May 2017 #11
I don't Give a Shit Doug the Dem May 2017 #12
I agree....... SergeStorms Jun 2017 #24
Online... Specifically the "Proud Boys" neo-blackshirts... Blue_Tires May 2017 #22
He yelled, Free speech or die, Portland! So, the White Supremacist Terrorist want their 1st amend- iluvtennis May 2017 #13
They don't want to lock us up IronLionZion May 2017 #18
Portland man accused of fatal train stabbing has outburst in court riversedge May 2017 #15
Chilling. brer cat May 2017 #16
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #17
I feel bad for the attorney who gets this guys case! logosoco May 2017 #19
loved his 'southern Portland oregon' accent... samnsara May 2017 #20
death penalty fbahrami May 2017 #21
Me thinks he won't live long in prison captain queeg May 2017 #23

christx30

(6,241 posts)
2. Just a slightly more extreme version of
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:20 PM
May 2017

what I read every day on The_donald and on other sites. Scary people. Hope this guy dies of old age in prison.

Shadowsmith

(26 posts)
4. Insanity defense?
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:26 PM
May 2017

Someone needs to use very small words to explain to this man that murder, violence, isn't speech. There are limits to free speech and he stepped well beyond them.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
6. I dont see an insanity defense.
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:42 PM
May 2017

As far as I'm concerned he's insane, but he knows what he's saying and communicates it as if he's thought it out. He's definitely emotionally warped and he has educated himself in hate.
It looks like he has scars on his face so he's been through some bad shite. Some of these guys have fulled their head with so much garbage they can't see that killing someone is ending that person's free speech permanently. It's only their own speech that's allowed.

cstanleytech

(26,248 posts)
14. Oh I am sure the guys lawyers will try for it but then almost any defense lawyer would and if he is
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:13 AM
May 2017

actually insane I hope they succeed and he is given treatment but not released until he is found to not be a danger anymore.
If however he is simply a racist asshole I hope he gets life in prison without the chance of parole.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. This is what the right wants
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:39 PM
May 2017

Freepers, hate radio and the religious reich call for violence all the time.

In Texas just the other day a republican pol threatened to shoot a democratic lawmaker in the head was the way he put it I believe.

Remember those 2nd amendment solutions the republicans eagerly long for?

Get ready while you can.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
9. Thank Trump for keeping us safe from terrorists.
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:18 PM
May 2017

Good thing this guy isn't a terrorist because:

1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation
2. against civilians
3. in the pursuit of political aims
4. Dark Skin - NOPE!!!

And no one has said anything about sending Jeremy Christian back to Europe or stopping travel from there or profiling people who look and act like him or browse the same websites or spew the same hate speech.

One of the girls, Destinee Mangan, was not a Muslim, just black. Telling a black American to go back to Saudi Arabia is the Trumpiest thing a Trumper can do. A brave patriot would slit the throats of anyone opposing his 1st amendment right to harass and intimidate dark skinned young women.

After eating a lot of fibrous vegetables for dinner, I take a big morning TRUMP and flush it down.


Seriously, what is the way to deal with people like this? Do nothing and they continue to harass people. Speak up and they kill you. And for some reason, the police didn't find him dangerous enough to shoot, not even to wound him in the leg or something. Let alone give him the All Lives Matter treatment. We know whose lives matter.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
10. Where does so much hate come from?
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:30 PM
May 2017

What happened in this man's life that turned him into such a murderous hate machine? Of course HE blames the victims for being in "his" country in the first place. A lifetime in prison is more than he deserves.

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
12. I don't Give a Shit
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:38 PM
May 2017

I just wish Oregon had the death penalty, even though I'm generally opposed to it.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
24. I agree.......
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:49 AM
Jun 2017

I'm not for the death penalty in 99% of the cases, but cop killers and lowlife scum like this guy really push me to the limit. He's beyond redemption, and that hate should be negated in anyway possible.

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
13. He yelled, Free speech or die, Portland! So, the White Supremacist Terrorist want their 1st amend-
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:02 AM
May 2017

ment rights to verbally accost folks, but they want to lock us up because we do peaceful protests (like in Texas over the weekend). What bullshit. I want this fool locked up for life. We don't need ppl like him in this society walking around with the rest of us. GAH

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
18. They don't want to lock us up
Wed May 31, 2017, 08:01 AM
May 2017

they want to kill us. Only their speech matters, not ours. A lot of them keep weapons like knives or guns for that reason. They think we deserve to be abused by the police knowing fully well that they can kill people and still be peacefully arrested and live to do it again.

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
15. Portland man accused of fatal train stabbing has outburst in court
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:27 AM
May 2017

What a hate-filled man.




Portland man accused of fatal train stabbing has outburst in court

Jeremy Joseph Christian, accused of killing two men as they shielded a woman from his anti-Muslim tirade, shouted: ‘You call it terrorism, I call it patriotism!’



?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=53a637aa05fae6062df984b4f5da6dbb
Jeremy Joseph Christian in Multnomah County circuit court in Portland, Oregon, on Tuesday. Photograph: Beth Nakamura/AP


Tuesday 30 May 2017 19.57 EDT

......................Jeremy Joseph Christian, 35, was in Multnomah County courtroom Tuesday afternoon for his first court appearance on two counts of felony aggravated murder and other charges for the Friday attack.
..............................................

As Christian walked into the courtroom he yelled out: “Free speech or die, Portland! You got no safe place. This is America. Get out if you don’t like free speech!

Standing behind glass partitions in the defendant’s area, he continued: “Death to the enemies of America. Leave this country if you hate our freedom. Death to Antifa! You call it terrorism, I call it patriotism! You hear me? Die.”

As he finished his statement, a crowd of about 30 anti-fascist protesters who were watching a livestream on their phones, could be heard yelling outside the courtroom doors..................................................

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

fbahrami

(155 posts)
21. death penalty
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:55 PM
May 2017

In such a case - hateful and plenty of eye witnesses - why is the death penalty not appropriate? Saves the taxpayers money and serves as a deterrent. Usually I would be against such a harsh penalty, but in this case?

captain queeg

(10,103 posts)
23. Me thinks he won't live long in prison
Wed May 31, 2017, 01:33 PM
May 2017

I think spouting racial hatred isn't going to fly, he'll need to get in with a skin head gang right away, or he'll be toast.

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