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Wed May 31, 2017, 05:29 PM

Brown: 'The rest of the world is against' Trump

Source: Politico



By DAVID SIDERS 05/31/2017 04:10 PM EDT


LOS ANGELES — California Gov. Jerry Brown, one of the nation’s foremost proponents of efforts to address climate change, on Wednesday called President Donald Trump’s planned withdrawal from the Paris climate accord “outrageous,” while predicting the effect of the move will be short-lived.

“This current departure from reality in Washington will be very short-lived, that I promise you,” Brown told POLITICO in an interview. “I’ve spoken with Republicans here in the Legislature, and they’re beginning to get very serious about climate action, so the momentum is all the other way. And I think Trump, paradoxically, is giving climate denial such a bad name that he’s actually building the very movement that he is (purporting) to undermine.” Brown added, “You can’t fight reality with a tweet.”

News of the president’s decision drew ire from Democrats and environmental groups across the country, nowhere more so than in California, where the state Senate hours later passed major climate legislation requiring utilities to obtain 100 percent of their electricity from renewable sources by 2045.

After the vote, state Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León told reporters that Trump’s decision is “distressing” but that California “will forge ahead.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/31/jerry-brown-donald-trump-paris-climate-change-deal-238993

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 05:50 PM

1. Loooove Jerry Brown!! I've been hoping our great politicians' voices would be heard overseas!!

we need to let the world know that we don't back trump's threat to back out of Paris Climate Accord

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 05:58 PM

2. so the con has said today that he's pulling out?

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #2)

Wed May 31, 2017, 06:28 PM

3. Yup

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 06:28 PM

4. Nicely done.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 06:56 PM

5. BAN TRUMP FROM CALIFORNIA !!

CALIFORNIA'S CLEAN AIR IS NOT FOR TRUMP !!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 07:07 PM

6. It's All About Undoing Whatever The Black Guy Did - No Matter the Cost to the Rest of Us

Trump's nonsensical climate agenda is purely about undoing whatever President Obama accomplished. Trump is a radical racist to his core.

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Response to dlk (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 08:58 AM

15. Trump is too blind to see that the biggest thing he destroys is his own ability to lead

the world on anything. The Paris Accord that Kerry and Obama were essential in getting will continue without us and as this thead and othere show, the US may still move, even in Trump's term, overall in the right direction in spite of Trump.

Maybe someone like Ivanka needs to explain that doing this means few countries will make deals with him. He will be the worst deal maker ever.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 07:20 PM

7. de-legitimizing climate denial could be the one decent thing Trump does

other nations will have to take the lead for a few years, but as Gov. Brown says, "the momentum is all the other way." someday we'll be back in the game, with far fewer idiots trying to undermine science in the name of profits and subsidies for outdated technologies.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 07:54 PM

8. SOOOOOOO glad he's my governor. Wish he were the real president instead our fake prez.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 07:56 PM

9. Trump promises so much winning

and showing up President Obama by "creating" jobs. Yeah...about that Donnie 2 Scoops, praising the resurgence of coal. BTW Donnie, coal is dying out. so much for that job thingy. Hey Donnie Rhea, did you know how many green jobs that could be treated for these out of work coalminers. Yeah....they could slap pay taxes again, sine none of your asshole pals ever do, then of course the a WPA style jobs program that would rebuild America. But you idiot Repukes have never seen the wisdom of actually putting out of work people to work and pay taxes.

Jerry Brown at least would fight for real Americans and not the douche nozzles Orange-oilni likes to call his friends.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 08:04 PM

10. Coal Coal Coal

USA ~ USA ~ USA

Drill ~ Drill ~ Drill

USA ~ USA ~ USA

MAGA ~ Hug a Neanderthal today.

(snark/barf)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed May 31, 2017, 08:38 PM

11. By 2045? This reminds me of when the CA legislature, in the 1990's voted for 5% ZEV by 2001.

Actually California will not be getting 100% of their electricity from so called "renewable energy" by 2045. No one will.

All of these "by such and such a year" nonsense is simply the effort of an irresponsible generation to dump the consequences of their selfishness and wishful thinking on future generations. This was true in 1990; it's true now.

We just spent on this planet, over 1 trillion dollars in the last ten years on solar energy, with the result that climate change is accelerating, not decelerating. The entire solar energy enterprise on this planet barely produces 1 of the 574 exajoules of energy that humanity is consuming each year. The entire industry can't even match the yearly increase in the dangerous natural gas industry's output.

The solar industry is, in fact, an expensive and toxic fig leaf for the gas industry, as California's prolifically increasing reliance on gas shows.

So called "renewable energy" did not work, is not working and will not work. If we want to get serious about climate change, nuclear energy is the only feasible solution. The reason is physics, the energy to mass ratio.



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Response to NNadir (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 12:52 AM

13. Respectfully disagree.. see links below!!

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Response to futureliveshere (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 08:34 AM

14. I follow the primary scientific literature, not "solar will save us" websites.

These websites have been around for decades, and I used to naively accept the wishful thinking they endorse. I changed my mind about ten years ago. I doubt the solar industry can even run the servers devoted to saying how great it is.

You can find papers by people like the gas bag Amory Lovins dating from 1976 saying that solar would be providing 1/4 of the US energy, which he defined as 25 "quads" (a quad being close to an exajoule) by the year 2000.

It doesn't even provide two exajoules on the whole planet.

It didn't work; it isn't working; it won't work.

It's 2017. We've reached 410 ppm of dangerous fossil fuel waste in the atmosphere (CO[sub]2[/sub]), and in the last two years surpassed all previous records for yearly increases. We squandered a trillion dollars on solar in ten years.

To do this, toxic metals and other unsustainable stuff was dug out of the ground, and distributed all around the planet for no result.

The faith based belief in solar power is just that, faith based. Those of us who hype the tiresome "solar will save us" meme are doing great damage to all future generations.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 12:19 AM

12. From May 22, 2017 - California breaks energy record with


80% of state's power generated using renewable methods

The Golden State has soaked up enough rays to generate 67.2 per cent of its energy from renewable sources last month, smashing previous records.

When combining California’s largest grid with hydropower facilities, renewable energy rose even further to 80.7 per cent of total energy generation on 13 May. Thanks to ample sunshine, full water reservoirs and more solar facilities, the California Independent System Operator, the largest grid in the state, beat previous records. California also set a new record on 16 May for wind power, producing 4,985 megawatts on one day.

"It's going to be a dynamic year for records," CISO spokesperson Steven Greenlee told SF Gate. "The solar records in particular are falling like dominoes."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-renewable-energy-record-80-per-cent-state-power-green-methods-water-hydro-wind-solar-a7748956.html

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:30 AM

16. Yay, us!

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