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Jose Garcia

(2,581 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:01 AM Jun 2017

Five months in prison for woman who sent death threats to dad of Sandy Hook victim

Source: Sun Sentinel

Affter admitting that she sent death threats to a Palm Beach County man whose 6-year-old son was murdered in the Sandy Hook school mass shooting, Lucy Richards apologized to the victims on Wednesday and acknowledged that the tragic incident occurred.

“I don’t know where my head and my heart were that day when I made the calls but they were not in the right place,” Richards said, speaking in a meek voice, before she was sentenced in federal court in Fort Lauderdale.

The judge sentenced her to five months in federal prison, followed by five months of house arrest and three years of supervised release.

Though Richards has a documented history of mental health problems, Senior U.S. District Judge James Cohn told her he did not believe they were a major factor in her decision to commit her crime.

Read more: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-reg-sandy-hook-death-threat-guilty-20170606-story.html

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Five months in prison for woman who sent death threats to dad of Sandy Hook victim (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jun 2017 OP
IMO, it's not enough. Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #1
I share your opinion. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #2
Yup. n/t progressoid Jun 2017 #16
Yeppers irisblue Jun 2017 #20
I hope she gets the help she needs to amend her mental health. I certainly riversedge Jun 2017 #3
Because the crazy person who made the threat doesn't believe their child was actually killed. m-lekktor Jun 2017 #14
I have a friends on Facebook Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #24
Dorian, what do they believe is the purpose of all this Hortensis Jun 2017 #30
Lots of crazy theories... Archae Jun 2017 #31
I remember it starting out as a plot to disarm the nation, Hortensis Jun 2017 #32
I don't know Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #33
Ah, "sheep," and she's one of the wise ones who see. Hortensis Jun 2017 #34
That's what scares me Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #35
Yes. I find it very interesting that the judge didn't feel Hortensis Jun 2017 #29
Trump & his evil spawn promote Alex Jones, who has been instrumental tblue37 Jun 2017 #4
She could have gotten twenty years.. Permanut Jun 2017 #5
About a year ago I heard of one sick b*st*rd ... left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #6
Too bad we couldn't trade one life for another. roamer65 Jun 2017 #11
after reading the article, the mental health treatment and court rules have helped her. Sunlei Jun 2017 #7
I think that's very important here. Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #25
Well, your head and your heart and the rest of you will be in the right place Aristus Jun 2017 #8
It's a familiar pattern, by now, when people terrorize, degrade, shock, demoralize others, Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #9
It's a type of stochastic terrorism... Raster Jun 2017 #10
She's a terrorist IronLionZion Jun 2017 #12
Not enough, but good obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #13
Good - but not enough packman Jun 2017 #15
Fuck her. Rot in prison. MrScorpio Jun 2017 #17
Yeah this is nowhere near enough time. 47of74 Jun 2017 #18
One of the reasons Lokilooney Jun 2017 #19
Think of the gunner trash and right wing nutjobs who convinced this sicko to do it alcibiades_mystery Jun 2017 #21
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #22
I'm hoping you don't really mean that.. whathehell Jun 2017 #23
Jeez Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #26
I can think of other Sandy Hook truthers who deserve to be in the cell beside her. LonePirate Jun 2017 #27
You Mean Like. . . ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #28

riversedge

(70,049 posts)
3. I hope she gets the help she needs to amend her mental health. I certainly
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jun 2017

can not understand anyone who makes death threats to parents whose child was killed in a domestic terror attach.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
14. Because the crazy person who made the threat doesn't believe their child was actually killed.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:44 PM
Jun 2017

the Sandy Hook "Truthers". They are nuts.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
24. I have a friends on Facebook
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 06:28 AM
Jun 2017

who I lost contact with a long long long time ago. Recently she posted that Manchester/Sandy Hook/9-11/and San Bernardino were all either false flag operations or never happened. She insisted Sandy Hook was made up by the government.

I made the mistake of biting and engaged in argument with her. How could a whole town lie about something like this? Parents lost their children. She said they were all paid actors. It was such an insane argument I couldn't effectively argue against it.

People want to believe what justifies their world view.

Anyhow, I've since unfriended her because I can't read the insanity.

She argued that Manchester was a government run operation and nobody died. It was all a drill. How do you engage with this nonsense.

Archae

(46,299 posts)
31. Lots of crazy theories...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jun 2017

"New World Order/Globalists"

"Obama/Hillary wants to take away our guns!"

"Da Jews/Illuminati/Masons/Satan want to take over da world!"

Most common one?
Money.
"Send me money or Christians/TrVe Patriots/Conservatives will be persecuted."
In other words, it's a scam.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. I remember it starting out as a plot to disarm the nation,
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jun 2017

but that's the last I heard. The money scam version actually sounds like a step back from the mental cliff of the other ones.

Funny how, ever since Obama was elected, so many have sighted trains filled with good Republicans headed for camps in the desert but no one can name anyone who's disappeared. Doesn't matter.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
33. I don't know
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jun 2017

I suspect she has a mild psychological disorder and is a drug user, so the conspiracy stuff appeals to her on some level. I kept asking WHY? And the only response I got was that I was a sheep blinded by our govt./media/big pharma/consumerism.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Ah, "sheep," and she's one of the wise ones who see.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:52 AM
Jun 2017

Sure.

People who are already disordered have a problem, of course, but I've read that it's common for previously "normal" people to become radicalized in their thinking by associating with people, such as on forums, leaning that way, that they and the groups themselves tend to become more and more extreme in their thinking in a common self-feeding syndrome.

I've also read that extremism is growing in our nation as people sort out more and more right and left and start casting hate stares at the "demons" on the other side. We're seeing a lot of hate talk these days right here on DU.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
35. That's what scares me
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:01 PM
Jun 2017

and in a handful of posts I tried to point that out. Using dehumanizing words about people with different Points of View is one way to make them the other, leading to hatred and justified bad treatment. And what she was saying was so radically different from what I consider a sane response to tragedy. She truly believed that all those families faked losing loved ones.

The conversation started around Manchester being a false flag. She used video as evidence (which turned out to be a drill that local municipalities use in case of a mass shooting or tragedy). The video plainly was that, but she said it showed the whole thing was fake.... even though it wasn't in the manchester arena in which Grande played. It was all sorts of dissonance.

I tried. Then I stopped. I didn't mind being called a sheep so much. It was obvious what she was doing. But the contempt she had for anyone not on her page is what really stuck with me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Yes. I find it very interesting that the judge didn't feel
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:23 AM
Jun 2017

her mental illness was a big factor in this; and knowing how many people become influenced by conspiracy lies and then are drawn farther and farther from reality, that seems credible.

We literally watched it happen to some right here on DU in 2015-16, who eventually had to find homes on other forums because DU would not allow them to speak what they had come to believe was "truth." Not technically crazy, although there are technical terms and lesser diagnoses for disordered thinking syndromes.

As you say, though, perhaps the prison will provide counseling and/or discussion groups that can help her get at least one mental foot back on terra firma. Perhaps. Hope the judge's opinion doesn't mean the prison doesn't have to provide mental heathcare.

tblue37

(65,215 posts)
4. Trump & his evil spawn promote Alex Jones, who has been instrumental
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jun 2017

in spreading the lies about Sandy Hook.

Permanut

(5,554 posts)
5. She could have gotten twenty years..
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jun 2017

for actions related to the Sandy Hook conspiracies, which were championed by Alex Jones.

Incidentally, the Mango Mussolini has has praised Alex Jones’ "amazing" reputation, and has appeared on Jones's show. Conspiracies centered around the supposition that the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax perpetrated by them gun-grabbin' libtards.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. About a year ago I heard of one sick b*st*rd ...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jun 2017

He told the father of one boy killed in that massacre,
"I won't believe your boy is dead
until you dig him up and show him to me."

Who are these sick people?
They get pleasure from tormenting grieving parents.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. after reading the article, the mental health treatment and court rules have helped her.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jun 2017

good she is banned from viewing those crazy websites, that kind of propaganda isn't good for people with fragile mental health.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
25. I think that's very important here.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 06:31 AM
Jun 2017

This woman obviously has mental health issues, and paranoid conspiracy theories aren't any help to her. She needs therapy and help on top of jail time.

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
8. Well, your head and your heart and the rest of you will be in the right place
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jun 2017

for the next five months. Enjoy!

Judi Lynn

(160,447 posts)
9. It's a familiar pattern, by now, when people terrorize, degrade, shock, demoralize others,
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jun 2017

then deny responsibility for their grotesque behavior by claiming extreme fragility due to cruel behavior in their own pasts toward them.

It's an ugly way to go.

She should be allowed to stay out of public life, away from her instruments of terror for a much longer time, until she can cool off, and seriously consider the vile wrongfulness of her own acts, and the fact she has harmed the lives of people who have been severely damaged already.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
10. It's a type of stochastic terrorism...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jun 2017

...and the chief proponent and grand enabler of the Sandy Hook "conspiracy" is Alex fucking Jones, a certifiable waste of protoplasm and a poor use of available oxygen.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. She's a terrorist
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jun 2017

unlawful use of violence and intimidation
against civilians
in the pursuit of political aims.

No, she doesn't deserve sympathy for being white or a woman. Mental health should be equal opportunity, so should terrorism charges. Hard prison time plus mental health treatment is fine, but no sympathy for her if one wouldn't give that same benefit of a doubt to a nonwhite male. Most terrorists must have mental health issues if you think about it after removing the filtered lens of racism, sexism, and bigotry.

US citizens have been executed by our government for less, by Democratic administrations.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
15. Good - but not enough
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

"Mental Health Problems" - listening to Alex Jones - recipe for what she did, probably who she voted for.

Lokilooney

(322 posts)
19. One of the reasons
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:37 PM
Jun 2017

We have the worlds most per capita prison population isn't so much as drug laws (although it does play a big part) but sentencing in general. Pick a crime and a person would most likely serve less or significantly less in Canada or Europe than in the US.

Take this example, a Canadian man plead guilty to 2 counts of uttering death threats, assault with a weapon and failing to comply with a court order baring him from possession of weapons. Mental health seems to have played a role in the case and he got a whopping 60 days 18 mo probation.

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/lethbridge-herald/20160923/281547995369921

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. Think of the gunner trash and right wing nutjobs who convinced this sicko to do it
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:47 AM
Jun 2017

Absolute garbage people.

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

whathehell

(29,026 posts)
23. I'm hoping you don't really mean that..
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 04:01 AM
Jun 2017

I agree that her sentence is too light -- she deserves years, not months, in prison, but wanting another mass killing and another murdered child? I hope your hatred isn't that deep.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
26. Jeez
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 06:32 AM
Jun 2017

So you'd condemn a child to death to teach her a lesson? Good god!

This is as ugly as what she did to grieving parents.

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