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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:39 PM Jun 2017

Report: Congress Investigating If Trump Team Used Voter Data Stolen By Russia

Source: Talking Points Memo



By ALLEGRA KIRKLAND Published JUNE 22, 2017 1:13 PM

Congress is investigating whether any private voter information allegedly stolen by Russian hackers was passed to or used by the Trump campaign, Time reported Thursday.

Ken Menzel, general counsel of the Illinois State Board of Elections, told Time that 90,000 state voter records were obtained through cyberattacks on their system, 90 percent of which contained drivers license numbers and a quarter of which contained the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers. Two anonymous sources close to congressional investigations into Russia’s election interference say lawmakers want to know if any of this stolen data eventually ended up in the hands of Trump’s team.

Time did not specify which of the five congressional committees looking into Russian interference in the election is investigating this specific thread.

This report is the latest indication that Russia’s cyberattacks on the United States’ electoral infrastructure, which include efforts to delete or alter voter data in Illinois and targeted attacks on election systems in 21 states, are becoming a focus of congressional and federal probes into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/congress-investigating-trump-team-used-voter-information-stolen-russians

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Report: Congress Investigating If Trump Team Used Voter Data Stolen By Russia (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
I hadn't even thought of that get the red out Jun 2017 #1
Me either. Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #6
Of course they did. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #2
Agree. ananda Jun 2017 #14
Both McConnell and Ryan knew Botany Jun 2017 #3
I suspect... cab67 Jun 2017 #16
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Jun 2017 #4
This investigation may turn up the smoking gun. rogue emissary Jun 2017 #5
Wait a second.... Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #8
Yes, that why I'm hoping the investigation focuses on the transmission of data as proof of the crime rogue emissary Jun 2017 #12
Very coincidental that report came out last week... Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #15
Trump's digital guy might flip C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #7
He was instructed not to get rid of any data.... Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #10
That would be collusion! George II Jun 2017 #9
About that open file hanging out in the cloud Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #11
the republican betrayal of America Achilleaze Jun 2017 #13
call me skeptical. Scruffy1 Jun 2017 #17
I'll call you concerned. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #18
Would feel better if Mueller was investigating this aeromanKC Jun 2017 #19
I seriously doubt they did neohippie Jun 2017 #20
A similar question is whether the DNC data the Russians got included the Clinton and Sanders voter karynnj Jun 2017 #21
Good. Drip drip drip Hekate Jun 2017 #22
This tells me that there's absolute proof that the Trump team did collude and wiggs Jun 2017 #23
Look for formats that prove we helped Russia with the stealing. lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #24

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. Of course they did.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jun 2017

Votes were flipped or voters were outright, on election day, prevented from voting, either way, election is not valid.

I dont care if we dont have a mechanism for another one, even if you impeach this prick, the next guy is EXACTLY as bad.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
3. Both McConnell and Ryan knew
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jun 2017

Both McConnell and Ryan knew

God only knows how wide and deep this corruption goes. Ryan is in a
CYA mood right now.

How did McConnell know if he waited until after the election he would have
somebody else to vote for for SCOTUS?


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028671176 (NY Times Article)

Paul Ryan & Republican Establishment Used Hacked Info From Russia Against Democrats:

Let's not forget that a super PAC tied to Paul Ryan used material provided by Russia's hacking of the DNC and DCCC.

It was known that Russia had stolen material from the DNC and DCCC and a Paul Ryan Super PAC and as well as other Republican groups used it.

It wasn't just Hillary Clinton being attacked. It wasn't just Trump benefiting. There's potentially more collusion than just that between Trump's team and Russia.

********
It was a coup and we had and still have treason.

cab67

(3,002 posts)
16. I suspect...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:29 PM
Jun 2017

...this is why McConnell is pushing so hard to get his health care bill out so quickly. This may be his last opportunity.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
5. This investigation may turn up the smoking gun.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jun 2017

If they find voter data transferred between the hackers and conservative organizations. This will probably be the only concrete evidence of collusion. I don't think any of Donny's officials would betray him. So finding that compromised voter data that the conservatives shouldn't have will be the only way to prove the collusion.

Shell_Seas

(3,335 posts)
8. Wait a second....
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jun 2017

What about the 198million leaked voter information from Deep Root?? Would it be possible for conservatives in question to have that info and use as cover for this info??

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
12. Yes, that why I'm hoping the investigation focuses on the transmission of data as proof of the crime
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jun 2017

I don't believe the 198 million voter files were left unsecured by accident. They left them vulnerable so hackers and others who couldn't legally obtain that information gain access to it.

As soon as I heard the story that the voter files were found to be in a cloud and not even password protected. I figured it was done on purpose. If I'm right and admittedly that's a big if. They still had to inform the hackers that the information was there through some sort of communication.

C_U_L8R

(45,019 posts)
7. Trump's digital guy might flip
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jun 2017

He's a young man and the prospect of prison probably isn't so appealing.

Shell_Seas

(3,335 posts)
10. He was instructed not to get rid of any data....
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jun 2017

But he may have. Evidence could have been destroyed. Would you put it past them?

Phoenix61

(17,018 posts)
11. About that open file hanging out in the cloud
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jun 2017

Where did that info come from and who was updating the info? Inquiring minds want to know.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
17. call me skeptical.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:55 PM
Jun 2017

The lines from shakespeare about sound and noise could have referred to the US Congress.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
20. I seriously doubt they did
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jun 2017

The Republicans can get all the voter data they need, why would they need anything the Russians hacked other the the Wikileaks document dump.

The Republicans would have access to this kind of data without needing anyone to hack it.

I guess it's worth pursuing but I would doubt that anything would come of this.

I am more interested in the following:

Did the Trump campaign or anyone in the GOP/RNC provide any voter data to the Russians, not sure why it would be the other way around.

How the Trump campaign used voter data to buy targeted ads on Facebook through Parscale's operation.

How did that operation operate, did it violate user's privacy policies. How did they come up with specific profiles to target.

How Cambridge Analytica was involved in that, and if there were fake news stories planted on Facebook and or fake user profiles setup and used there

How the Wikileaks documents were hacked, and then transferred from the hackers to Kushners newspaper.

How Roger Stone, Sebastian Gorka, JD Gordon, Nigel Farage were involved in any communications between Trump's organization and the Wikileaks hackers

How the fake news stories came to Facebook, where did they come from if outside the US and who helped get them into Social media, especially Facebook, and how were they injected into that platform and if they were only seen by targeted Facebook profiles


Was the a deal to trade Russian Oil stock, or help to win the election through the Wikileaks hack in a trade for removal of US sanctions against Russia?



karynnj

(59,504 posts)
21. A similar question is whether the DNC data the Russians got included the Clinton and Sanders voter
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 04:10 PM
Jun 2017

data. If the Russians got this and gave it to Trump, consider what they then had.

In all campaigns that I ever volunteered on, we phoned or canvassed Democrats only or independents. BOTH Clinton and Sanders would have tried to assess people eligible to vote in the primaries. They would EACH have stored information independently on whether the voter was for them, for the opponent, unlikely to vote and whether they intended to vote Republican. Now consider that the voter records themselves show if they voted in the primaries.

Now consider that Cambridge Analytica used data to try to create small groups they could target. This was all managed by Jared Kushner. The DNC data would be a gold mine both for what it was and even more to help in their modelling the people who voted against Clinton in the primaries. Typically fewer people vote in the primaries, those who voted for Clinton in the primaries are completely unlikely to be won over. The majority of Sanders voters obviously voted for Clinton, but they and the people who did not vote in either primary were likely among those targeted.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
23. This tells me that there's absolute proof that the Trump team did collude and
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jun 2017

that the knowledge is going to be public soon. the GOP congress would not start an investigation on their own unless forced. They have no choice, either because:

1) the IC or Mueller have proof and have briefed a select group of congresspersons and they all know that the public will find out sooner or later and don't want to be on the wrong side of a huge scandal or maybe even legally complicit

or

2) there's a LOT of dirt stuck to the Trump team on many fronts and a deal has been struck to control damage and fallout. The gop would be interested in hiding ALL the dirt on Trump, Ryan, McConnell, etc....and certain moderate dems would be interested in damage control because if everything we suspect is true turns out to be right then we are headed for a long slog through instability, vulnerability, and constitutional crisis.

Either way, it points to collusion and someone will pay for it. I find it unlikely that the gop congress is investigating specific collusion wrt stolen data just because it's the right thing to do. There's evidence and they know it.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
24. Look for formats that prove we helped Russia with the stealing.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

They could not have known what to steal where without RNC durections.

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