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riversedge

(80,801 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:07 PM Jul 2017

Trump Aides, Seeking Leverage, Investigate Muellers Investigators

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: nytimes



Michael S. Schmidt, Maggie Haberman and Matt Apuzzo

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s lawyers and aides are scouring the professional and political backgrounds of investigators hired by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, looking for conflicts of interest they could use to discredit the investigation — or even build a case to fire Mr. Mueller or get some members of his team recused, according to three people with knowledge of the research effort.

The search for potential conflicts is wide-ranging. It includes scrutinizing donations to Democratic candidates, investigators’ past clients and Mr. Mueller’s relationship with James B. Comey, whose firing as F.B.I. director is part of the special counsel’s investigation.

The effort to investigate the investigators is another sign of a looming showdown between Mr. Trump and Mr. Mueller, who has assembled a team of high-powered prosecutors and agents to examine whether any of Mr. Trump’s advisers aided Russia’s campaign to disrupt last year’s presidential election.

Some of the investigators have vast experience prosecuting financial malfeasance, and the prospect that Mr. Mueller’s inquiry could evolve into an expansive examination of Mr. Trump’s financial history has stoked fears among the president’s aides. Both Mr. Trump and his aides have said publicly they are watching closely to ensure Mr. Mueller’s investigation remains narrowly focused on last year’s election.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-russia-investigation.html



Bunch of mobsters are running the WH I swear.



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Trump Aides, Seeking Leverage, Investigate Muellers Investigators (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2017 OP
Not Acting Like An Innocent Man Ccarmona Jul 2017 #1
How guilty do you have to be when your Phoenix61 Jul 2017 #2
Investigating Mueller's investigators, did you say? Okay - have at it, MOTHERFUCKERS!!: Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #3
Excellent information, thanks. And there won't be any firing of Bob Mueller. He's the FBI's god. ancianita Jul 2017 #8
Thank you so much lunasun Jul 2017 #18
Nah, this is just another idle, brain-dead threat from low-life mob wannabes, sun. I googled, Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #20
It might slow Mueller down a bit but not much at all. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #4
Trump got 5 or 6 deferments watoos Jul 2017 #5
it's all about intimidating senators/reps certainot Jul 2017 #6
RW at FR already threatening personal violence Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #9
yeah, and that's on top of limbaugh complaining a few weeks ago "only republicans certainot Jul 2017 #12
sounds like something that needs to be reported to the FBI perhaps? flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #13
Know the opposition. I also scan Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #15
does the "D" in "4D" stand for delusional? flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #16
That's truly ugly, sub-human stuff. Hideous. They're not too much like people over there. Judi Lynn Jul 2017 #14
Agree RW talk radio is one of trumps biggest weapons to use against the investigation lunasun Jul 2017 #19
This just comes across as a conspiracy to obstruct justice. The FBI is clean. ancianita Jul 2017 #7
So far the biggest thing they "have" on Mueller is that supposedly he was a member of flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #10
a smear campaign. ginnyinWI Jul 2017 #11
republicans pursuing an evil, anti-American attack on our justice system Achilleaze Jul 2017 #17
Locking - duplicate thread muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #21
 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
1. Not Acting Like An Innocent Man
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jul 2017

Phoenix61

(18,827 posts)
2. How guilty do you have to be when your
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:22 PM
Jul 2017

first line of defense is trying to get rid of the other guy's lawyers? He must be in so deep with the Russian mob they know there is no defense that will cover his lazy ass.

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
3. Investigating Mueller's investigators, did you say? Okay - have at it, MOTHERFUCKERS!!:
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:28 PM
Jul 2017

ANDREW WEISSMANN

Most recently the chief of the Justice Department’s fraud section, Weissmann joins Mueller’s team with decades of experience prosecuting cases involving organized crime, corporate misconduct and criminal fraud.

Some of the blockbuster cases he has taken the lead on include the prosecution of executives from now-defunct energy company Enron for their elaborate schemes to conceal their firm’s financial woes, and his conviction of members of the Gambino, Colombo and Genovese crime families as a federal prosecutor in Brooklyn.

In the 1990s, Weissmann worked on a case involving Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman with organized crime connections who would go on to become a business associate of Trump’s. Weissmann signed a deal Sater struck to become a government informant after he pleaded guilty in a $40 million fraud scheme, according to the Financial Times.

Weissmann is also renowned for his expert in flipping witnesses, as Reuters has reported—a skill that could come in handy as the special counsel team tries to determine if anyone associated with the Trump campaign colluded with Russian operatives.

MICHAEL DREEBEN

The Justice Department’s deputy solicitor general is working part-time on the special counsel investigation, where he brings decades of experience in criminal law.

Dreeben has argued over 100 cases before the Supreme Court, and represented the federal government on cases including the public corruption probe into former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R).

His addition to Mueller’s team was “widely seen as a sign that Mueller was investigating possible criminal violations by President Donald Trump or others,” according to the National Law Journal.

JAMES QUARLES III

Quarles kicked off his career working as an assistant special prosecutor on the special prosecution force investigating the Watergate scandal. After that investigation ended with the conviction of several of President Richard Nixon’s top aides for various abuses of power, Quarles joined the white-shoe D.C. law firm WilmerHale in the mid-1970s.

JEANNIE RHEE

Another WilmerHale veteran, like Mueller himself, Rhee has extensive experience working on criminal investigations. As a young lawyer, she served as an assistant US attorney for the District of Columbia, where she prosecuted Washington Teachers Union officials who embezzled some $5 million.

Rhee later served as deputy assistant attorney general for the DOJ’s office of legal counsel and, in private practice, focused on advising clients who were the subjects of federal investigations. Some of Rhee’s most high-profile cases involve the Clintons: She was on the legal team representing the Clinton Foundation in a racketeering lawsuit brought by Freedom Watch, a litigious conservative advocacy group, and represented Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit that sought to obtain access to her private emails.

Rhee, like several other special counsel attorneys including Quarles and Weissman, has been criticized for donating to political campaigns for Democratic politicians including Clinton and former president Barack Obama.

AARON ZEBLEY

A former FBI special agent on counterterrorism cases and assistant U.S. attorney in the National Security and Terrorism Unit, Zebley has had a long working relationship with Mueller. He served as Mueller’s chief of staff during his tenure at the FBI and then worked alongside him as a partner at WilmerHale.

Prior to joining WilmerHale, Zebley worked as senior counsel in the DOJ’s national security division. His expertise is in national security, terrorism and violent crime cases.

BRANDON VAN GRACK

Van Grack is a veteran prosecutor in the counterespionage section of the DOJ’s national security division. In two recent cases, Van Grack helped prosecute a former government contractor who stole classified national defense documents and a computer hacker who provided the Islamic State with the names and contact information of over 1,000 government and military workers.

Van Grack had led a grand jury inquiry in the Eastern District of Virginia into ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn’s lobbying on behalf of foreign governments, which reportedly has since been picked up by Mueller.

RUSH ATKINSON

A trial attorney in the fraud section of the DOJ’s criminal division, Atkinson has worked on complex cases involving corporate malfeasance. Earlier this year, he helped indict a former top executive at Bankrate Inc., a financial services company, for manipulating the company’s statements and artificially inflating its earnings.

ANDREW GOLDSTEIN

Goldstein joins the special counsel team from his post as head of the public corruption unit in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York. Under former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, a frequent critic of the administration who was fired by Trump earlier this year, the office burnished its reputation for aggressively prosecuting cases involving white-collar crime and public corruption.

Goldstein was a prosecutor on the team that convicted longtime State Assembly speaker Sheldon Silver and other members of the state government of public corruption, according to the New York Times. He has experience working on money laundering and asset forfeiture cases.

ZAINAB AHMAD

An assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of New York, Ahmad served as the deputy chief of the national security and cybercrime section. As the New Yorker documented in a recent profile, Ahmad successfully prosecuted 13 international terrorism suspects for the U.S. government without losing a single case.

Some of her biggest cases include the prosecution of a Pakistani al-Qaeda operative planning a terrorist attack on a U.K. shopping center and of a Nigerian citizen convicted of providing material support to Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

ELIZABETH PRELOGAR

An assistant to the solicitor general’s office, Prelogar previously clerked for Supreme Court justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan and worked in private practice at Hogan Lovells.

She appears to be fluent in Russian from her undergraduate and graduate studies, and served as a Fulbright Scholar in Russia, as the National Law Journal reported.

LISA PAGE

Page developed experience in money laundering and organized crime cases during her tenure as a trial attorney in the DOJ’s organized crime and gang section. She prosecuted a member of the Lucchese organized crime family and Bulgarian nationals who conducted a money laundering scheme using fake eBay ads.

ADAM JED

Jed has worked for the DOJ since 2010, most recently in the civil division, according to the National Law Journal. He defended the Affordable Care Act’s contraceptive insurance requirement on behalf of the federal government in Little Sisters of the Poor v. Sebelius, and received an exceptional service award from the DOJ for helping implement the Supreme Court decision that effectively legalized gay marriage.

AARON ZELINSKY

An experienced line prosecutor who has worked on organized crime cases, Zelinsky has spent the past three years working as as assistant U.S. Attorney in Maryland under Rod Rosenstein, who is now the deputy attorney general overseeing the special counsel probe. Zelinsky has taught constitutional and national security law at Peking University and the University of Maryland, respectively.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/special-counsel-probe-beefs-up-bigly

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
8. Excellent information, thanks. And there won't be any firing of Bob Mueller. He's the FBI's god.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:28 PM
Jul 2017

This would be further obstruction of justice beyond the intent and foreknowledge already proven.

The whole FBI won't do Trump's bidding.

The Trump cabal will go down.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. Thank you so much
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:40 AM
Jul 2017

Save for maybe later when/if all their names are denigrated and dragged through the mud

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
20. Nah, this is just another idle, brain-dead threat from low-life mob wannabes, sun. I googled,
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jul 2017

but can't find, their equally inane threat from a week or two back saying they were going to find dirt on all the msm reporters they don't like and put them out of business.

Still waiting, idiots.

They don't have the tools or the intelligence to do anything more than make shit up!! So don't you be losing any sleep over this nonsense, please!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
4. It might slow Mueller down a bit but not much at all.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jul 2017

If an investigator gets fired, the information doesn't go away.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. Trump got 5 or 6 deferments
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:14 PM
Jul 2017

to get out of Nam. His blister on his heel kept him from serving, while Mueller was a wounded Vietnam war vet. I don't think Mueller is afraid of Trump, it's the other way around.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
6. it's all about intimidating senators/reps
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:17 PM
Jul 2017

mueller's been getting attacked on the radio already and we end up having to depend on R-con congress to do the right thing.

the attacks on mueller will ramp up on 1500 radio stations to generate the ‘outrage’ to keep the frightened reps in line. and non putin-supporting americans will have no clue where that pressure comes from.

that pressure would be a lot less effective if it was clear where it was coming from - a few hundred proven liars.

and since according to sam nunberg (new york mag to gabriel sherman 4/3/16) trump studied talk radio in 2014, maybe the russians were already using talk radio and some of those might be getting russian money

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
9. RW at FR already threatening personal violence
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:35 PM
Jul 2017
Mueller and his investigators should be given just enough rope to hang themselves for a coup attempt. Firing squad in front of a ditch should follow.

3 posted on 2017-07-20, 11:40:33 PM by MtnClimber



We need pictures. We need to know what these people look like. We need to be able to recognize them on the street

21 posted on 2017-07-20, 11:57:01 PM by McGavin999
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
12. yeah, and that's on top of limbaugh complaining a few weeks ago "only republicans
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:40 PM
Jul 2017

are getting shot"

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
13. sounds like something that needs to be reported to the FBI perhaps?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:44 PM
Jul 2017

Threats against citizens, especially those working in a Federal capacity, are probably quite criminal.

PS, you must have a strong stomach to be lurking on FR.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
15. Know the opposition. I also scan
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:51 PM
Jul 2017

I also scan the Conservative Angle.

Yeah, I can usually stomach only about 10 minutes a day at FR. Sometimes it is hilarious, though. Right now they are also thinking that tRump is playing "4D chess", again, with his NYT interview.

They’ve never had to deal with someone from the private sector who has the resources, will, and strength of character as Trump. Most people working public jobs, no matter what agency, are just not nearly as talented or intelligent as the people in the private sector. On their best day.

33 posted on 2017-07-21, 12:07:04 AM by neverevergiveup

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
16. does the "D" in "4D" stand for delusional?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:02 AM
Jul 2017

Wow, that's some impressive level of blind faith. Did they really not have any problem with the Napoleon rambling? Macron hand-holding? Russian "adoptions" (hello! Sanctions!!) for God's sake?

4D chess indeed.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
14. That's truly ugly, sub-human stuff. Hideous. They're not too much like people over there.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:50 PM
Jul 2017

It would be excellent seeing photos of them, too. I can only imagine how people look who exhort others to assassinate public servants.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
19. Agree RW talk radio is one of trumps biggest weapons to use against the investigation
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jul 2017

Russia seems plausible . Hopefully it will be exposed if that is the case

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
7. This just comes across as a conspiracy to obstruct justice. The FBI is clean.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:24 PM
Jul 2017

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
10. So far the biggest thing they "have" on Mueller is that supposedly he was a member of
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:38 PM
Jul 2017

one of Rump's golf courses, and supposedly had a dispute over the fees. In a rare direct response, Mueller's spokesperson said there was no such dispute.

Not to mention, are they really going to say that Mueller's seeking revenge on the US presidency over a fricking golf club membership? Of course, Rump would do something like that, but we're talking about principled adults here.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
11. a smear campaign.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:39 PM
Jul 2017

How quaint.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
17. republicans pursuing an evil, anti-American attack on our justice system
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:32 AM
Jul 2017

the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief and his cabal of colluding comrades is out to destroy the American justice system.

And the republican Congress is betraying America by letting him do it.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,197 posts)
21. Locking - duplicate thread
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jul 2017

of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141825776 . Please continue discussion there. Thanks.

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