Health Care Vote: Senate Rejects Repeal Without Replace

[Le Gaucher]

Source: NY times

Senate rejects ‘repeal only’ measure

The Senate on Wednesday rejected a measure that would have repealed major parts of the Affordable Care Act but would not have provided a replacement, signaling that the “clean repeal” bill that conservatives have embraced cannot get through Congress.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/us/politics/health-care-senate-vote.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65624331&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

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Are there more blows to come Or is this it?

[BumRushDaShow]

1. They will probably put some convoluted Turtle bill up for amendments. nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I am sure there are more blows to come...but this is still an important good step. n/t

[underpants]

3. Sad.

[RKP5637]

4. And we pay these assholes to try to destroy America. I'm glad this did not pass.

These guys are a total waste of time, money and resources. If they wanted to do something useful, work on Medicare for all.

[iluvtennis]

28. Well said, I totally agree,

[bearsfootball516]

5. They still have to vote on

The skinny repeal, right? That's the one people are most concerned that it could pass, I think.

[hibbing]

6. They will never give up

The desire to kick 20+ million people off insurance is overpowering as well as their need to serve their corporate masters.

Peace

[Txbluedog]

14. Their is no desire to kick people off insurance

The Rethugs only have 1 desire: to please their corporate masters. In the unlikely event their corporate masters decide they want Obamacare watch these same rethugs bend over backwards defending the virtues of Obamacare to their base

[regnaD kciN]

51. Not true...

They also want to please:

1) Those who don't know or care what the effects of any policy are, except that it makes liberals unhappy.

2) Those who get orgasms of joy from the thought blotting out any achievement of "that Kenyan Muslim who stole the presidency."

[LeftInTX]

7. I thought they voted on this one last night.

It's so hard to keep up.

We've got a Special Session going on in Texas and it is crazy, crazy, crazy.

[Stuart G]

13. This is a different vote...a partial repeal..

[still_one]

27. Is this what they refer to as the skinny bill?

[Dave Starsky]

32. So did I!

Isn't this the repeal without replace that they approved yesterday? How many of the goddamned things are there out there?

[still_one]

35. Thatis the one i am very concerned about

[Saviolo]

43. Here is a link to a pretty helpful flow chart

For all of us tracking the progress at home:

Link to tweet

[LeftInTX]

45. Helpful! So BCRA should be the next vote?

[Saviolo]

48. That is my understanding!

But, being that we apparently live in bizarro world, for all I know the fluffy kitten vote is up next, and Mitch McConnell will return to the sea from whence he came.

[Hoyt]

8. Christ, I hope voters remember this crud come 2018.

[old guy]

21. Repub voters don't remember what happened last night,

and tomorrow they won't remember today. Come 2018 they will vote repub whether or not they lose their insurance. It's what they do.

[Hoyt]

31. I know. They'll probably blame this junk on Obama and Hispanic immigrants.

[kairos12]

36. Disagree. They remember HRC's emails.

[CountAllVotes]

9. Great accomplishment!

Just adds to the other list of accomplishments that they have failed to pass/enact.

What a bunch of foolish idiots wasting taxpayers time/money on their goals to pass their very racist agenda!

A giant F/U to the lot of them!



Having fun yet racist GOP?

& recommend!!

[yallerdawg]

10. Watching the live feed on C-Span...

the Democrats on the Senate floor are looking pretty damn happy!

This means whatever the Senate passes won't be what the House wants - and whatever the House wants won't be passed by the Senate!

AND - when they come back from August recess, we're in election season - and Trump is definitely getting nothing done and dragging the party down!

It's a beautiful thing!!!

[Stuart G]

11. Here is a link to show who voted what..from New York Times (shows both votes)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/25/us/politics/senate-votes-repeal-obamacare.html


The vote on Wednesday was for:

The Senate on Wednesday voted against an amendment to partially repeal the Affordable Care Act in two years. Senators will continue to debate and vote on amendments to the health bill.

[IronLionZion]

12. They're just wasting time on this nonsense

instead of anything useful to create jobs or any of the things they promised their voters

[MyOwnPeace]

15. There you go.....

What have Orange Cheat-o and the Repugs done FOR the American public?

What BULLSHIT!!!!

[IronLionZion]

20. How about their own voters?

This could be a good opportunity for us to peel off some of their voters who have been disappointed on inaction on economic issues, infrastructure, ISIS, the stupid wall, or whatever else they voted for.

We could win back some rust belt states and make inroads elsewhere.

[Stuart G]

16. These Republicans voted N0 on today's partial repeal vote....there were 7

They voted with our side.....54 ... NO ... to 45...Yes.. (Them, the Pukes)
___________________________________________________________
Susan Collins Me.


Dean Heller Nev.


Lisa Murkowski Alaska



Lamar Alexander Tenn.


Shelley Moore Capito W.Va.


John McCain Ariz.


Rob Portman Ohio

[LovingA2andMI]

22. We Owe A Apology ON THIS ONE....

To Senator John McCain. Thank you, Senator, for voting the right way on the Two-Year Timetable #RepealBill

[Bengus81]

25. Doubt it...McCain will vote NO until he votes YES to KILL the ACA......

He just doesn't want his hypocrisy to look to damn obvious.

[barbtries]

42. he's just waiting for the right one.

all he had to do was stay in AZ and we wouldn't even be having these votes. hell will be frozen over before i owe mccain an apology

[obamanut2012]

53. No, we don't -- Fuck McCain

[cstanleytech]

17. They are probably going to put something on the table of dropping most if not all the medicaid cuts

in order to try and foster the appearance of being reasonable with the hopes that the Democrats will fracture and that they peel off enough to support their proposal at which point they will claim they were bipartisan over it.

[Stuart G]

18. No Democrat will vote with ....THEM...

[cstanleytech]

46. I did not say it would work rather its what I suspect they are trying. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

19. The Democrats have amazingly held fast.

Which is pretty remarkable. I think the only way they may get a D to even consider it if they start all over and do it a piece at a time and ONLY stuff that needs fixing and only via committees. Otherwise they know this is all kabuki theater.

[leftynyc]

26. That's not hard

when the bill has only a 25% approval rating.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Well we know the usual suspects

Manchin, McCaskill, Heitcamp, & Tester, who are in unenviable positions based on the states that elected them.

[Cryptoad]

23. Medicare for Everybody,,,,, ez pz!

[Moral Compass]

24. They are trapped by the reconciliation process

This didn't look doable at the outset due to what the Senate Republicans cannot do via the reconciliation process limitations (if they deal with anything in the bill that is not revenue/tax impacting such as getting rid of pre-existing condition protections then the bill becomes vulnerable to the filibuster.)

So, that leaves only one thing. Going with the nuclear option and eliminating the filibuster for anything.

Is McConnell that desperate?

I'm thinking no, but Trump is going to make life really uncomfortable for his own McConnell and his own party.


Trump just wants a bill to sign. He doesn't seem to care what this does to his putative party and what impact this could have on the 2018 mid-terms. He may be thinking he'll have the game so rigged by that time that it won't matter what happens in 2018 and beyond.

[RKP5637]

29. They simply want to KILL OFF Americans. They will try and try again. They will not be happy until

they see the sick and disabled laying in the gutters dying, withering away, and some might use them as target practice with their SUVs. God these asses are disgusting!

[Beartracks]

34. And they'd still blame Obamacare for the massacre.

[RKP5637]

37. Yep, exactly, and the brainless deplorables would blame Obamcare even if it were gone. n/t

[BigmanPigman]

30. I called 11 so far today. The 9 from the 1st vote and added 2 more

with this last vote. I got through to 2 staffers. I didn't bother with McCain since I hate him (always have and always will) since he says one thing and does the other so my efforts would be wasted.

There are two more to vote on before the weekend, the Skinny bill and the Graham/Cassidy Amendment so hopefully the calls and letters and protests will do some good. The problem is McConnell. He is ALWAYS the problem. No one knows what the hell they are even voting on and he keeps changing the rules in the Senate so everyone is confused as to how to vote and how many are valid as well as time frames. This is no way to run the Senate.

I hope McConnell is caught for colluding with the Russians and we can get rid of Ryan and him (and Pence) since they are all guilty of crimes "in the family".

[Beartracks]

33. GOP should apply their healthcare philosophy to this repeal effort...

... Namely: Let it die.

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[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

38. I wonder how much taxpayer money,

money the Republicans and Tea Partiers and Libertarians and Conservatives claim to be so zealously safeguarding, this has cost those same taxpayers?
Face it R's, if this (the ACA) was really so terrible and onerous America would be raising hell about it..........

[COLGATE4]

39. It's a con job. Turtle will keep them voting for one or another

P.O.S. until everyone's dead tired and sick of hearing anything more about 'health care'. Then he'll put the 'skinny option' on the table at the last minute and, voila - Dead Obamacare.

[Bengus81]

40. Yeah...sadly that's been my thinking too.....

I saw this same kind of crap in Senate voting in the Kansas legislature. Voting at midnight to underfund those Koch brothers hated "guberment" schools and a fat ZERO percent tax rate for Corporations/LLC's/SCorps.

That was four years ago and it became a financial disaster here.

[barbtries]

41. more blows to come.

we're not through thursday yet. they can do all kinds of damage between now and then i believe. hopefully someone will correct me if i'm wrong

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. They have to do something. They promised their troglodyte constituents they would. Woe is us.

[riversedge]

47. "This fight isnt over yet, though." KEEP CALLING SENATORS

AdChoices
POLITICS 07/26/2017 04:18 pm ET
Another Obamacare Repeal Bill Just Failed In The Senate

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/another-obamacare-repeal-bill-failed-senate_us_5978ac7ae4b0a8a40e846f99?q7&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


This fight isn’t over yet, though.
By Jeffrey Young
X

Senate Republicans again failed to approve legislation to repeal major parts of the Affordable Care Act on Wednesday.

This time, it was a bill that would have eliminated funding for the Affordable Care Act’s private health insurance subsidies and Medicaid expansion, its individual mandate that most Americans obtain health coverage or face tax penalties, its mandate that large companies offer health benefits to full-time employees, and its taxes on rich people and health care companies. This legislation didn’t include any means of replacing the Affordable Care Act.

The measure, known as as the Obamacare Repeal Reconciliation Act, failed 45-55, with seven Republican senators voting against it, along with all Democrats and independents in the upper chamber. GOP Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Susan Collins (Maine), Dean Heller (Nev.), John McCain (Ariz.), Shelley Moore Capito (W. Va.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rob Portman (Ohio) opposed the legislation.

The path forward for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) isn’t clear, but the defeat of another bill doesn’t mean the Affordable Care Act is safe.

The Senate will continue debating health care throughout the week, with a slew of additional votes coming, many of which are expected to occur between Thursday evening and into the wee hours of Friday morning. Republican senators at this point appear increasingly content to pass essentially anything, regardless of its policy content and its consequences for the health care system.

[geretogo]

50. These Barbarians in suits are completely owned and are the property of the anarchists

David and Charles Koch out to destroy America and its working class .

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

52. Cheetolini is not happy now