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MelissaB

(16,595 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:08 PM Jul 2017

Putin's Media Czar Was Murdered Just Before Meeting Feds

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Buzz Feed News

"Everyone thinks he was whacked"

The US government ruled Mikhail Lesin’s death an accident, but multiple intelligence and law enforcement officials suspect it was a Russian hit. The government is withholding information so today BuzzFeed News has filed a lawsuit to pry the records loose.


By Jason Leopold (BuzzFeed News Reporter) Ken Bensinger (BuzzFeed News Reporter) Anthony Cormier (BuzzFeed News Reporter) Heidi Blake (BuzzFeed News Investigations Editor) Alex Campbell (BuzzFeed News Deputy Investigations Editor, UK) Tom Warren (Investigations Correspondent) Jane Bradley (Investigations Correspondent) Richard Holmes (Investigations Reporter)

Vladimir Putin’s former media czar was murdered in Washington, DC on the eve of a planned meeting with the U.S. Justice Department, according to two FBI agents whose assertions cast new doubts on the US government’s official explanation of his death.

Mikhail Lesin’s battered body was discovered in his Dupont Circle hotel room on the morning of November 5, 2015 with blunt-force injuries to the head, neck, and torso. After an almost year-long "comprehensive investigation," a federal prosecutor announced last October that Lesin died alone in his room due to a series of drunken falls “after days of excessive consumption of alcohol.” His death was ruled an "accident," and prosecutors closed the case.

But the two FBI agents — as well as a third agent and a serving US intelligence officer — said Lesin was actually bludgeoned to death. None of these officials were directly involved in the government’s investigation, but they said they learned about it from colleagues who were.

“Lesin was beaten to death,” one of the FBI agents said. “I would implore you to say as much. There seems to be an effort here to cover up that fact for reasons I can't get into.”

Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/putins-media-czar-was-murdered-just-before-meeting-feds?utm_term=.chWNkAY2R&bftwnews#.kkE2LyB56

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Putin's Media Czar Was Murdered Just Before Meeting Feds (Original Post) MelissaB Jul 2017 OP
I wouldnt put anything past the bastard Putin .. Le Gaucher Jul 2017 #1
The fact that Putin didn't raise a huge stink about him means that he was happy Lesin died Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #14
Coincidence, I'm Sure! Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #2
This seems to be an important story TeapotInATempest Jul 2017 #3
Money. There was an article about UK deaths and Russian oligarch money mainer Jul 2017 #10
I suppose it could be something as base and uninteresting as money. TeapotInATempest Jul 2017 #12
It is certainly interesting how often people who displease Godfather Putin meet with nasty accidents LeftishBrit Jul 2017 #4
Russian officials sure are accident prone -nt Bradical79 Jul 2017 #5
Why would the US authorties falsify the cause of death? avebury Jul 2017 #6
See, this is what I don't understand. TeapotInATempest Jul 2017 #13
Yes! It's most suspicious. Duppers Jul 2017 #15
That is almost unbelievable. What is absolutely unbelievable Cosmocat Jul 2017 #16
That doesn't sound plausible to me either. LisaL Jul 2017 #20
Good question! red dog 1 Jul 2017 #21
What did Trump know and when did he know it? Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #7
Obama was President in '15. Duppers Jul 2017 #17
What the hell are you talking about? Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #19
Thanks for the clarification. Duppers Jul 2017 #23
Hmmm... Mr. Evil Jul 2017 #8
or 8 times in the head with a nail gun....n/t dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #26
The real mystery is why authorities keep calling these deaths "accidents" mainer Jul 2017 #9
Why were they all covering up for Putin? Duppers Jul 2017 #18
The London murders -- read all about them mainer Jul 2017 #11
Thank you BuzzFeed News for covering this important story, and for filing lawsuits red dog 1 Jul 2017 #22
FBI and DOJ has surveillance video, 302s, witness interviews & files on Lesin. We want it all. MelissaB Jul 2017 #24
why are there 8 reporters' names on this story? SethH Jul 2017 #25
Locking - this is a feature story, not news muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #27
 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
1. I wouldnt put anything past the bastard Putin ..
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:13 PM
Jul 2017

I feel afraid for likes of Rachel Maddow or orthers who might get too close to the truth.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
14. The fact that Putin didn't raise a huge stink about him means that he was happy Lesin died
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jul 2017

The fact that he was happy is a strong indicator it was a Russian hit.

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
2. Coincidence, I'm Sure!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

Maximum

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
3. This seems to be an important story
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jul 2017

Dead Russians in Britain and the U.S. and the governments of both countries covering up that they're likely murders, not accidents.

The questions is WHY are they covering it up? What is the bigger picture? I'm not a conspiracy theorist in any way, but there must be some reason for this and that makes me nervous.

mainer

(12,538 posts)
10. Money. There was an article about UK deaths and Russian oligarch money
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jul 2017

authorities are getting paid off.

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
12. I suppose it could be something as base and uninteresting as money.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jul 2017

I'm REALLY getting tired of everyone else suffering because of a few (ok, more than a few) greedy misanthropes.

LeftishBrit

(41,450 posts)
4. It is certainly interesting how often people who displease Godfather Putin meet with nasty accidents
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jul 2017
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
5. Russian officials sure are accident prone -nt
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jul 2017

avebury

(11,194 posts)
6. Why would the US authorties falsify the cause of death?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jul 2017

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
13. See, this is what I don't understand.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jul 2017

Are they really just being paid off? Or are they keeping things under wraps for some other reason? Some larger investigation?

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
15. Yes! It's most suspicious.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jul 2017

Wiki needs updating because it states:
"It's unclear if the FBI ever initiated a probe."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Lesin

The FBI was under Comey's leadership in 2015. Something troubling and suspicious was going on. Where's the transparency?

Cosmocat

(15,379 posts)
16. That is almost unbelievable. What is absolutely unbelievable
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jul 2017

is that somehow this guy died from mortal body wounds from a drunken stupor in a hotel room.

LisaL

(47,384 posts)
20. That doesn't sound plausible to me either.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jul 2017

Where would this guy even supposedly fall from, to get this much trauma? My understanding hotel room itself didn't have any stairs inside it.
"In addition to the blunt trauma to the head, Mr. Lesin’s body had bruises on the neck, torso, arms and legs, but the cause of those was not clear."
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/us/mikhail-lesins-strange-death-in-us-follows-a-fall-from-russias-elite.html

red dog 1

(32,853 posts)
21. Good question!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:00 PM
Jul 2017

I would like to know the answer to that one too.

Interesting to note that the FBI assisted with the investigation, as well as DOJ.
I wonder what they are hiding?

Kingofalldems

(40,147 posts)
7. What did Trump know and when did he know it?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:55 PM
Jul 2017

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
17. Obama was President in '15.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:32 PM
Jul 2017

But you knew that.

Kingofalldems

(40,147 posts)
19. What the hell are you talking about?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:44 PM
Jul 2017

Trump has been working with the Russians for years.

But you knew that.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
23. Thanks for the clarification.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:12 PM
Jul 2017

As MarketWatch journalist said, "This president is a lazy old man who golfs, watches TV and tweets. That’s about all." And Newsweek: "Trump hast he work ethic of a bored, lazy child." And most everyone on DU knows he's dumb as dirt and doesn't read ANYthing, so I don't think he knew much, including this, because he doesn't care enough to even want to know. He's lived his life in a bubble.

And what intelligent person would do business with a ruthless dictator? Trump might have to watch his back after leaving the WH because he cannot deliver for his boss.

I also thought: 1) you might be implying that Trump had the unused power to do something about this report OR 2) that you were making a funny, cliched joke.

My apologies for being dumb. Not the first time. And, btw, I was NOT trying to be offensive.

Bye now.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
8. Hmmm...
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jul 2017

Not unlike committing suicide by shooting yourself twice in the back of your head.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,154 posts)
26. or 8 times in the head with a nail gun....n/t
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:23 PM
Jul 2017

mainer

(12,538 posts)
9. The real mystery is why authorities keep calling these deaths "accidents"
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jul 2017

Both US and UK police repeatedly refuse to call the numerous deaths murder. Even the guy in London who was found dead and stuffed in a trunk was called "an accident." The word is, there are huge amounts of money being funnelled through banks to keep these from getting too deeply investigated.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
18. Why were they all covering up for Putin?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jul 2017

Money? Or were they sitting on this in order to reel in other, bigger fish?

Just wow.

mainer

(12,538 posts)
11. The London murders -- read all about them
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jul 2017

"Lavish London mansions. A hand-painted Rolls-Royce. And eight dead friends. For the British fixer Scot Young, working for Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic meant stunning perks – but also constant danger. His gruesome death is one of 14 that US spy agencies have linked to Russia – but the UK police shut down every last case. A bombshell cache of documents today reveals the full story of a ring of death on British soil that the government has ignored."


https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/from-russia-with-blood-14-suspected-hits-on-british-soil?utm_term=.mdMpP8P1B#.budvGKGPw

red dog 1

(32,853 posts)
22. Thank you BuzzFeed News for covering this important story, and for filing lawsuits
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:10 PM
Jul 2017

(From the OP)
"Urgent questions remain about Lesin's death.
The government is withholding the FBI's investigative file, which includes critical evidence ranging from surveillance tapes to witness interviews.
So today, BuzzFeed News filed a lawsuit to pry that information loose."

K&R, thanks for posting

MelissaB

(16,595 posts)
24. FBI and DOJ has surveillance video, 302s, witness interviews & files on Lesin. We want it all.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jul 2017

SethH

(170 posts)
25. why are there 8 reporters' names on this story?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:50 PM
Jul 2017

Jason Leopold is a red flag for me. But Buzzfeed overall is ok imo.

But this particular story I'm very wary of. We know from Rachel Maddow that the Trump defenders are shopping fake stories. She didn't fall for it but I don't trust Buzzfeed, especially Jason Leopold, to be as cautious as they need to be.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,004 posts)
27. Locking - this is a feature story, not news
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 06:17 PM
Jul 2017

Please repost in GD, or Editorials and Other Articles. Thanks.

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