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Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:16 AM Jul 2017

GOP fears political fallout after health care 'epic fail'

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Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Weary Republicans in Washington may be ready to move on from health care, but conservatives across the United States are warning the GOP-led Congress not to abandon its pledge to repeal the Obama-era health law — or risk a political nightmare in next year’s elections.

The Senate’s failure this past week to pass repeal legislation has outraged the Republican base and triggered a new wave of fear. The stunning collapse has exposed a party so paralyzed by ideological division that it could not deliver on its top campaign pledge.

After devoting months to the debate and seven years to promising to kill the Affordable Care Act, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., simply said: “It’s time to move on.”

But that’s simply not an option for a conservative base energized by its opposition to the health law. Local party leaders, activists and political operatives are predicting payback for Republicans lawmakers if they don’t revive the fight.



Read more: https://apnews.com/550e0e167c364883bc734db99b8897ee/GOP-fears-political-fallout-after-health-care-'epic-fail'



"Damn you for not taking our healthcare away!" How freakin' stupid ARE these people?
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virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
1. the people who want their tax cuts
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:47 AM
Jul 2017
Local party leaders, activists and political operatives are predicting payback for Republicans lawmakers if they don’t revive the fight.

Doubtful that the average joe is quite as obsessed.
 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
6. Are you sure about that?
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:09 AM
Jul 2017

I'm certainly not. Trumpies still overwhelmingly support their Orange Demigod.

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
10. Drumpf needed independents to get in (aside from the hacking/meddling)
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:54 AM
Jul 2017

51% of the country aren't "natural born RW killers". That kind of loon "base" are more in the 30% range.

It's just that they get a lot of press because their benefactors OWN the national media to keep up the fiction that "America is right wing".

OnDoutside

(19,982 posts)
2. If the polls are true, only 12 to 15% support Trumpcare, and
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:54 AM
Jul 2017

I bet that could be reduced if they got the exchanges working, premiums down and prescription costs lowered. They could even lie as usual and claim to their base that they got the Democrats to give in, through the committee system.... They will believe any load of shite, clearly.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
3. So where was this "angry base" during the repeal votes?
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:00 AM
Jul 2017

Did they call their congressmen? Did they show up in masses at townhall meetings? If they had, GOP reps wouldn't have been afraid to show up in public.

videohead5

(2,181 posts)
4. I Think Most Senators
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:46 AM
Jul 2017

Went home and McCain went home for cancer treatment and will not return for sometime.I don't know how they are going to vote on anything anytime soon.

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
5. The GOP have proven expert ...
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:06 AM
Jul 2017

... at "strategerizing" themselves between a rock and a hard place.

The brainwashed who believed the Republicans would deliver healthcare that was "better and cheaper" are pissed-off that they didn't come through, and those who want to keep their Obamacare are pissed-off that they tried to take it away.

Good thinkin', GOP. Now ALL of your constituents are pissed-off, no matter which side they're on.

Seems there's a lot of that "good thinkin'" going around lately.

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
7. This is just bullshit media that continues to magnify a small % of Koch-funded idiots
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:45 AM
Jul 2017

while plainly ignoring what is in front of them - hundreds of thousands of OUR (Democratic) "base" that are energized and pissed the hell off. They are in the streets, in the Capitol, in town halls, outside of their representative's offices, both in the home districts and in D.C., day after day after day.

The so-called "paralyzed" state of the GOP IS because some moderates (notably in the House) in swing districts ARE hearing from their constituents, who are telling them to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Meanwhile the article suggests that the GOP is looking at running even more RW crazies in those swing districts to primary the moderates - but the hope is that any indies in those districts will say enough is enough, and they will support the Democratic challenger.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
9. Yes. The Resistance is Persisting and more & more it is Triumphing. . . . . nt
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:51 AM
Jul 2017

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
8. all the GOP had to do was change the ACA Obamacare to
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:51 AM
Jul 2017

trumpcare and all would have been happy.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
11. Republicans are too stupid to realize this is a good thing for them politically.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:21 AM
Jul 2017

If they had shown up campaigning next year with premiums up 20% and millions uninsured it would have been much worse. If they had any common sense, they'd work with Dems to repair the ACA and let the issue fade away.

cstanleytech

(26,334 posts)
12. They were probably planning to do that if Hillary was President but Donald keeps
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:09 AM
Jul 2017

pouring more gas on the fire making it difficult for them to control their base and shift them in a new direction.
If he keeps blundering around and acting like an idiot and interfering with them then I would not be surprised if they seek his removal via the 25th amendment but they would probably have to cut a deal with the Democrats to get them on board and if thats the case the Democrats should hold out for some things.
#1 The next 2 scotus appointments need 60 votes and none of them will be a conservative.
#2 The GOP agrees to stop trying to fight the ACA and will not seek to undermine it including via funding or repealing.
#3 The GOP will agree to reduce defense spending in half over the next 5 years and shift that money as well as an additional 500 billion to infrastructure spending for interstates, bridges and dams and they will also agree to keep that funding level in place for the next 20 years.
#4 The Repugnants will also agree to shoring up and fixing programs like social security both the normal one and the disability one as well as medicare and medicaid.

If they dont then the Democrats should let the Repugnants twist in the wind and suffer the consequences for deciding to play the repeal card so very well with their base because I see us coming out as the majority in either the Senate or the House in 2018 at the very least and a super majority by 2020.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,390 posts)
13. Locking - the hosts feel this is analysis, rather than a breaking news story
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:23 AM
Jul 2017

There's no new news event here, but a series of reactions from minor Republicans around the country. Please repost in GD. Thanks.

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