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riversedge

(81,139 posts)
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:10 PM Jul 2017

Trumps Base Sticks With Him Except in the South

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Source: nbc







Jul 30 2017, 11:20 am ET
Trump’s Base Sticks With Him — Except in the South



This week, a new set of state polls from Gallup showed President Donald Trump’s job approval numbers are very uneven and hold some deep challenges, but a deeper look at the numbers reveals clues about potential shifts in the electorate.


..........................On the most basic level the Gallup data, based on daily tracking polls from Jan. 20 through June 30, show Trump’s job approval is “underwater” (with higher “disapprove” than “approve” numbers) in 31 of the 50 states. His approval number is only 50 percent or higher in 17 states. ...........................


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......... The Blue Wall Reassembling? — Trump ultimately won the presidency with narrow victories in three states: Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Democrats thought of the states as a great “blue wall” around the Great Lakes, but Trump smashed through and won where no Republican had won since 1988. Now, however, the Gallup data suggest some of the bricks may be falling back into place here. Trump is underwater by 9 or more points in the three states and is at 52 percent job disapproval in all of them.

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And Trump’s very narrow margins here in November — he won the three by a total of about 78,000 votes - mean they were never big supporters of him. His slip in the blue wall numbers may be tied to his slide in the polls overall. Whatever the reason, without these states in his corner, any shot at a second term would get much tougher for him. ..............




Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-base-sticks-him-except-south-n787856



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Trumps Base Sticks With Him Except in the South (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2017 OP
Those three states were stolen for the Electoral College by collusion & conniving with Russkies. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #1
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #6
Yep not fooled Jul 2017 #10
time for him to ramp up the racism! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jul 2017 #2
Many older whites are deeply broken and I don't see us making huge gains among that population dsc Jul 2017 #3
The south has more old white people. And no place has more old whites than Florida. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #5
Not by percent dsc Jul 2017 #8
We're talking sheer numbers here. Or I was. In any case, it was the working white males.... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #14
No worries. Putin can fix that. :) But only if Trump delivers. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #4
Putin will not get his "deliverables" Best_man23 Jul 2017 #7
He's said he'll sign. And natch he says it's a bill HE negotiated...that Congress sent him the bill Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #9
Democrats, the Left, Progressives Are Ignoring How Racism and Sexism... TomCADem Jul 2017 #11
I can't feel sorry for any white men, no matter how oppressed they may be in actuality Aristus Jul 2017 #12
"Except in the South" Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #13
Click on the link. He is negative 9 in Texas and Arizona and neg. 7 in Georgia Quixote1818 Jul 2017 #15
But the South is Teabagger Heaven Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #16
Locking - the hosts feel this is analysis, rather than a breaking news story muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #17

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
1. Those three states were stolen for the Electoral College by collusion & conniving with Russkies. .nt
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:23 PM
Jul 2017

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. +1. nt
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jul 2017

not fooled

(6,720 posts)
10. Yep
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jul 2017

This is another illegitimate puke presidency.

The news media needs to stop glossing over this inconvenient fact.



 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
2. time for him to ramp up the racism! n/m
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:23 PM
Jul 2017

dsc

(53,416 posts)
3. Many older whites are deeply broken and I don't see us making huge gains among that population
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jul 2017

which will keep the likes of Iowa and Ohio as states that are more often out of our reach than not. Both states are older and whiter than the country as a whole. The three C's in Ohio are no longer enough to overcome the drag of the old white electorate that are just about everywhere else.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. The south has more old white people. And no place has more old whites than Florida.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jul 2017

So I don't think that's it.

Russia hacked those states, IMO. But any disgruntled people were white male workers...not so old. As Michael Moore described them.

dsc

(53,416 posts)
8. Not by percent
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:45 PM
Jul 2017

Ohio is 80% white with a median age of 38.5 Florida is 60 percent white with a median age of 41.2. Florida has more seniors but many of their seniors are from the eastern urban centers not the rural ones Ohio has.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. We're talking sheer numbers here. Or I was. In any case, it was the working white males....
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:22 AM
Jul 2017

or ones who had lost their jobs. Not old guys. From the info I saw. Unless you call 35 to 50 old.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. No worries. Putin can fix that. :) But only if Trump delivers.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:22 PM
Jul 2017

What Putin wants, I hear, is the removal of The Magnitsky Act. It's costing Putin billions.

Best_man23

(5,268 posts)
7. Putin will not get his "deliverables"
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jul 2017

If tRump vetoes the sanctions bill, Congress will have zero choice but to override him. If they don't they hands Dems a huge weapon for 2018 midterms.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. He's said he'll sign. And natch he says it's a bill HE negotiated...that Congress sent him the bill
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jul 2017

that he negotiated the terms of. HA.

I figured he wouldn't give up, though. He's relentless.

TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
11. Democrats, the Left, Progressives Are Ignoring How Racism and Sexism...
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jul 2017

...are not just used to oppress women and minorities, but to oppress white men by giving them a scapegoat while Trump takes away their healthcare and ruins the environment in order enrich himself and others like him.


Aristus

(72,315 posts)
12. I can't feel sorry for any white men, no matter how oppressed they may be in actuality
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 11:24 PM
Jul 2017

as long as they are willing participants in their own oppression.

The LBJ quote could not be more succinct or timely.

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
13. "Except in the South"
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:08 AM
Jul 2017

Wut?

Quixote1818

(31,157 posts)
15. Click on the link. He is negative 9 in Texas and Arizona and neg. 7 in Georgia
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:57 AM
Jul 2017
 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
16. But the South is Teabagger Heaven
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:07 AM
Jul 2017

If he's lost that region, who's gonna be his base?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,360 posts)
17. Locking - the hosts feel this is analysis, rather than a breaking news story
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jul 2017

It's about the same poll that you posted an LBN thread for on Wednesday: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141830062

Please either add this analysis to that thread, or repost it in GD. Thanks.

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