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riversedge

(80,801 posts)
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:39 PM Aug 2017

Why Ben Carsons appearance in Phoenix was likely a violation of federal law

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: washpost



By Philip Bump August 23 at 10:33 AM
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Announcer introduces Ben Carson at Trump's rally in Phoenix
At a rally for President Trump at the Phoenix Convention Center on Aug. 22 in Phoenix, the announcer introduced to the stage, “The secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, Dr. Ben Carson.” (The Washington Post)



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“The secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, Dr. Ben Carson,” the voice intoned, prompting cheers from the audience.

And, as simply as that, a law was likely broken.

There are a lot of ways in which the federal government could be used to reward political friends and allies, of course, appointments being just one example. But the power of the government can also be leveraged to political advantage. Imagine a candidate who appeared at a campaign rally to be endorsed by the heads of each branch of the armed forces, for example. That would carry a lot of weight.

In 1939, Franklin Roosevelt signed the Hatch Act into law, a measure meant to preserve the impartiality of public servants. “The law’s purposes,” the Office of Special Counsel’s website explains, “are to ensure that federal programs are administered in a nonpartisan fashion, to protect federal employees from political coercion in the workplace, and to ensure that federal employees are advanced based on merit and not based on political affiliation.​​​​”............................................................

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/23/why-ben-carsons-appearance-in-phoenix-was-likely-a-violation-of-federal-law/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_carson-115p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tid=a_inl&utm_term=.cd7fd52045f1



My guess is that nothing will happen.




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Why Ben Carsons appearance in Phoenix was likely a violation of federal law (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2017 OP
So who enforces laws like this? greymattermom Aug 2017 #1
Office of Special Counsel investigates and determines the facts James48 Aug 2017 #2
no sweat,,,, blanket pardon for all of them! Cryptoad Aug 2017 #3
My guess is PatSeg Aug 2017 #4
With a perjurer for AG, what chance lessor crimes by cabinet members will be enforced? L. Coyote Aug 2017 #7
Repukes always pull this shit. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #5
This. Can't ever remember any high-level gov official at any of our events johnsonsnap Aug 2017 #6
Yep, nothing will happen, but if Hillary Clinton had done it..... steve2470 Aug 2017 #8
Locking - this is analysis, as the Washington Post itself classifies it. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #9

greymattermom

(5,807 posts)
1. So who enforces laws like this?
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:44 PM
Aug 2017

What is the penalty?

James48

(5,213 posts)
2. Office of Special Counsel investigates and determines the facts
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:45 PM
Aug 2017

but it is up to the executive agency to penalize.

A Hatch Act violation can range from a reprimand to firing the individual.

An intentional violation often leads to firing of a "normal" federal employee.

Here is more on the story - so far NO ONE has filed a compliant.

but ANYBODY can.

Follow the story here:

http://www.govexec.com/federal-news/fedblog/2017/08/did-ben-carson-violate-federal-law-trumps-campaign-rally/140454/?oref=river

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
3. no sweat,,,, blanket pardon for all of them!
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:48 PM
Aug 2017

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
4. My guess is
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:49 PM
Aug 2017

you are probably right. Accountability seems to be a thing of the past with this administration.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
7. With a perjurer for AG, what chance lessor crimes by cabinet members will be enforced?
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:34 PM
Aug 2017

ZERO. Unless, of course, he was set up by Trump to Make the Cabinet Great Again.






truthisfreedom

(23,532 posts)
5. Repukes always pull this shit.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:56 PM
Aug 2017

Soliciting donations and campaigning from office was business as usual for bush, et al.

 

johnsonsnap

(56 posts)
6. This. Can't ever remember any high-level gov official at any of our events
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:40 PM
Aug 2017

We don't do that since it is a crime.

steve2470

(37,481 posts)
8. Yep, nothing will happen, but if Hillary Clinton had done it.....
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:49 PM
Aug 2017

immediate charges, full Congressional hearings, the works

muriel_volestrangler

(106,197 posts)
9. Locking - this is analysis, as the Washington Post itself classifies it.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:06 PM
Aug 2017

Please repost in GD, or Editorials and Other Articles. Thanks.

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