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kag

(4,079 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:31 PM Aug 2012

Boulder County concealed weapons permit applications triple following Aurora Shootings

Source: Boulder Daily Camera

BOULDER -- Boulder County officials report that applications for concealed carry weapon permits spiked in the week after the July 20 shootings at an Aurora theater that left 12 dead, and local firearms advocates believe it shows some people are ready to take self-defense up a notch.

From the week of June 4 to the week of July 16, the weekly average of applications for concealed carry gun permits in Boulder County was nine. The week of July 23, the applications jumped to 28 and as of Tuesday last week, the most recent data available, the sheriff's office had already tallied 15 new applications. It takes about 90 days for the county to review an application and issue a permit.


Read more: http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_21237536/boulder-county-concealed-weapons-permit-applications-are-up



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Boulder County concealed weapons permit applications triple following Aurora Shootings (Original Post) kag Aug 2012 OP
Why is this a problem? twizzler Aug 2012 #1
Interesting comment from a former law official. wake.up.america Aug 2012 #11
We're never former if retired twizzler Aug 2012 #13
My apologies. Not former, but retired. Sorry. wake.up.america Aug 2012 #27
Continue on as we are now, while working on improving the mental health system.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #16
Let me know when the US stops playing war too. L0oniX Aug 2012 #19
Including this guy? He obviously got a gun somehow. proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #14
He's an ass twizzler Aug 2012 #15
How often do you think some gun nut will pull or flash his gun in front of an uniformed officer? Hoyt Aug 2012 #17
What's your police experience? twizzler Aug 2012 #18
Izzat a giant wooden penis on that shelf? L0oniX Aug 2012 #20
And he has Prince Albert in a can... ileus Aug 2012 #24
I saw that,too. rad51 Aug 2012 #29
It doesn't suprise me at all lunatica Aug 2012 #2
I have no problem with citizens carrying guns twizzler Aug 2012 #3
the mistaken belief that the world is more violent, creates a more violent world. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #4
Uhm ...so vets are more likely to be violent too? So war creates a more violent world? L0oniX Aug 2012 #21
Expect gun violence in the are to . . . 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #5
"The solution to guns is more guns." agent46 Aug 2012 #6
If it's such a bad idea twizzler Aug 2012 #7
You've obviously never met a Tbag bigoted carrier. Hoyt Aug 2012 #9
I've met many of them in my duties twizzler Aug 2012 #10
Twizzler, what are your thoughts on open carry? ChazII Aug 2012 #28
Watch your back, armed "cowboys" on loose. Hoyt Aug 2012 #8
Call me an alarmist, but walking around the US has me.. wake.up.america Aug 2012 #12
This is promising news. ileus Aug 2012 #22
Boulder Is Changing otohara Aug 2012 #23
Local new here in Atlanta, GA, RebelOne Aug 2012 #25
It's all fear Mkap Aug 2012 #26
 

twizzler

(206 posts)
1. Why is this a problem?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

They have to go through a background check, take a class on the lawful use of a firearm, and qualify with the firearm to be carried.
My wife and I, both being retired cops, have not problem with citizens carrying concealed guns as long as they qualify. All 3 of our daughters are cops and they are ok with it as are most street cops.

wake.up.america

(3,334 posts)
11. Interesting comment from a former law official.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:09 PM
Aug 2012

How should America turn itself around with respect to the inordinate number of deaths and injuries by firearms?

 

twizzler

(206 posts)
13. We're never former if retired
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:23 PM
Aug 2012

but be that as it may, check out the FBI's statistics on violent crime, it's at it's lowest point since the 60's and continuing to decline, not because there are more guns in circulation, the reasons are many, but if there are more guns in circulation and crime is declining, then more guns isn't making crime rise.

As a cop, I knew that the crime problem wasn't the citizen who took the time to qualify to carry a concealed gun, it was the badguy who didn't or wouldn't care about any laws regarding guns.
And the majority of street or beat cops felt pretty much the same way.
As far as turning itself around, how about firearm awarness and safety classes taught in school? I don't mean promote guns, but something like the NRA's Eddie Eagle program.
Better reporting by the states to the NCIS of prohibited persons, stiffer penalties for using a gun in a crime, no parole for violent criminals who use guns, just to name a few.

And lest it be said that I'm just a shill for the gun industry or the NRA, I'm not, I'm not even really pro or anti gun. I just have real world experience when it comes to the lawful citizen as opposed to the badguys having guns.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
16. Continue on as we are now, while working on improving the mental health system....
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:33 PM
Aug 2012

better education and jobs.

Crime rates, including murder, have been dropping fairly steadily for several decades, while the number of privately owned firearms, and firearms owners, have increased.

 

twizzler

(206 posts)
15. He's an ass
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:44 PM
Aug 2012

but are you comparing him to the average gun owner? What is you experience with the average gun owner, probably not as extensive as mine or my wife's.

In my experience, and I have 35 years experience, citizens who take the time to qualify for a concealed gun permit are polite, even tempered people. Of course, you're going to have the idiot here and there who break the law and they usually pay a heavy price for it.
Every citizen I ran across who carried a gun legally was very polite to me and I had no worries about them, my biggest worry were those that didn't or wouldn't care about any laws, we call them criminals.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. How often do you think some gun nut will pull or flash his gun in front of an uniformed officer?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:43 PM
Aug 2012

Don't you think even Holmes, Stawicki, Zimmerman, Loughner, and every other gun carrier would be on best behavior when a uniformed officer approached. I certainly do.

 

twizzler

(206 posts)
18. What's your police experience?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:18 PM
Aug 2012

are you a cop? If not, then let me pass on a few things I was trained to look for when approaching a vehicle or person, we look for little tells, like nervousness, fidgeting around, sudden movements in a vehicle, eyes darting, voice trembling, sudden sweating, certain veins throbbing, stuff like that.
I always approached a vehicle or a person as though they were armed, that's how we are trained, but in all my years, 15 in a car, 20 as a Detective, I can count on one hand problems I had with a licensed gun carrier.

I think I speak from far more experience than you.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. It doesn't suprise me at all
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:43 PM
Aug 2012

Having both the Columbine High School and Aurora mass murders in the same area would make anyone think about carrying self defense.

 

twizzler

(206 posts)
3. I have no problem with citizens carrying guns
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:50 PM
Aug 2012

as long as they are properly trained in the laws of usage and can pass a background check and qualify with the gun.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
4. the mistaken belief that the world is more violent, creates a more violent world.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:50 PM
Aug 2012

People who own guns are more likely to have them used by their family in anger or suicide, or stolen and used against them or used in another crime.

An armed society is NOT a polite society... as evidenced in countries with SANE gun laws. It's quite the opposite in places like America and Somalia.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
6. "The solution to guns is more guns."
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:54 PM
Aug 2012

This general belief that seems to be spreading comes from one place - heavily funded NRA propaganda. The arms industry is one of the few strong manufacturing industries left in America. They are increasing exports and marketing the idea to American consumers that they are unsafe and the answer is guns. In their version of America everyone will carry a cell phone and a firearm.

Every time there's a fear event in America, we get played into buying more bullshit.

 

twizzler

(206 posts)
7. If it's such a bad idea
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:59 PM
Aug 2012

why do most states now allow for the carrying of concealed guns? Why do most street cops have no problem with it?
I just don't think it's a big deal as long as the applicant is qualified to carry.

 

twizzler

(206 posts)
10. I've met many of them in my duties
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:08 PM
Aug 2012

as had my wife and 3 daughters. I've arrested all walks of life during my career. As long as they obeyed the law, I had no problems with them, I tended to treat everyone as I would want to be treated until it was time to take action and even then, I tried to be respectful of them.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
28. Twizzler, what are your thoughts on open carry?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:16 AM
Aug 2012
http://www.opencarry.org/az.html

I live in the Phoenix area of Arizona. While I seldom see someone with their weapon in a holster, it does not bother me when I do see one. In your opinion, how does open carry influence tend to influence others?

wake.up.america

(3,334 posts)
12. Call me an alarmist, but walking around the US has me..
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:21 PM
Aug 2012

running scared. Baghdad is scary too, but that's a different story.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
22. This is promising news.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:11 PM
Aug 2012

It shows people haven't given up on their rights, and progress can still be made for all of us.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
23. Boulder Is Changing
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

not the hippie haven it once was.

Never liked the place - besides they have shitty rules for handicap parking. By the time you walk to where ever it is your going, it's time to turn around and go feed the one hour only machine.


RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
25. Local new here in Atlanta, GA,
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:50 PM
Aug 2012

reported that weapon permits have jumped within the last couple of weeks. They are not certain if it has anything to do with the Colorado shootings. DUH!!!

Mkap

(223 posts)
26. It's all fear
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

The media scares people so their reaction is to go out and buy guns. We live in a paranoid nation

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