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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:54 AM Sep 2017

Haley at UN: North Korea is "begging for war"

Source: Axios



Dave Lawler 14 mins ago

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley is taking part in an emergency Security Council meeting on North Korea, lobbying for "the strongest possible" response to Saturday's nuclear test. At the top of the meeting, a top U.N. official said the blast was 5 times as powerful as those resulting from the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Some quotes from Haley:

"We have taken an incremental approach, and despite the best intentions, it hasn't worked."

"War is never something the United States wants, we don't want it now, but our people's patience is not unlimited."

"We have kicked the can down the road long enough. There is no road left."




Read more: https://www.axios.com/how-other-nations-have-confronted-their-difficult-history-2480056783.html
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Haley at UN: North Korea is "begging for war" (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
War With North Korea Would Bring War With China dlk Sep 2017 #1
I doubt it, but what it would do if we were stupid enough to launch a pre-emotive attack still_one Sep 2017 #3
China Would Join Forces With North Korea if U.S. Launches Pre-Emptive Strike .99center Sep 2017 #14
I don't agree with that assessment. I believe it is unlikely there will be a war because of this still_one Sep 2017 #18
You don't agree with China on what they said they would do? adigal Sep 2017 #21
No I don't. I think it is saying this to hopfully deter NK and the U.S. from doing a first strike, still_one Sep 2017 #22
yep bluestarone Sep 2017 #19
Translation: He's chewing through the restraints. Don't know if we can hold him much longer. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2017 #2
If NK is "begging for war" NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #4
Trump's opportunity to appear Presidential? jalan48 Sep 2017 #5
No Americans are on to Trump's bs rockfordfile Sep 2017 #10
I think American's are more like sheep. jalan48 Sep 2017 #12
There was a murder-suicide across the street from me last week. Plucketeer Sep 2017 #6
All of t-rump's picks for post in the his dumbass administration Iliyah Sep 2017 #7
I'm guessing the back-room talk is how to remove Kim Jong-un from leadership. Equinox Moon Sep 2017 #8
Video here of Haley speec. riversedge Sep 2017 #9
Will there be another UN resolution coming out of this? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #11
They're drafting a strongly worded letter as we speak. name not needed Sep 2017 #13
And just a reminder who Nikki Haley is...... chelsea0011 Sep 2017 #15
She was my governor. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #17
As is your asshole boss. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #16
How do you save a failing Presidency? BlueIdaho Sep 2017 #20
The world would be better off if trump will please fire her ass and leave the position vacant. Sunlei Sep 2017 #23

still_one

(92,136 posts)
3. I doubt it, but what it would do if we were stupid enough to launch a pre-emotive attack
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:15 AM
Sep 2017

against NK, is force NK to use any nuclear weapons they have, and while no doubt NK would cease to exist, the damage it would cause in human lives, suffering, and the economy would take at least a generation to recover from

We are in a "peaceful co-existence" situation right now, and it serves no country's interest, including NK to have a war

.99center

(1,237 posts)
14. China Would Join Forces With North Korea if U.S. Launches Pre-Emptive Strike
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 01:27 PM
Sep 2017
http://www.newsweek.com/china-north-korea-preemptive-strike-649802
"China will remain neutral if North Korea fires missiles at United States territory first, but should the U.S. launch a pre-emptive strike, as it has suggested it might, North Korea’s chief ally would come to the North’s aide. While not direct government policy, that verdict of how the country should react amid the unfolding nuclear threats from the U.S. and North Korea is contained in an editorial in the influential Communist Party–run Global Times newspaper Friday."

still_one

(92,136 posts)
22. No I don't. I think it is saying this to hopfully deter NK and the U.S. from doing a first strike,
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:14 AM
Sep 2017

and prevent a war.
I do not believe the U.S., or NK would do a first strike. In fact I do not believe there will be a war between the U.S. and NK because of this. It would not serve anyone's interests. NK's strategy is to do what it is doing in hopes to set up a deterrent to keep the U.S. from trying to overthrow its government.

This reason is based on our invasion of Iraq. It was clear that the U.S. knew that Iraq did not have WMDs, because if Iraq actually did, and the capability to launch them, the U.S. would NOT have taken the chance and pre-emptively invaded.

That is the whole theory of "peaceful co-existence".

However, if hypothetically the U.S. were to do a first strike, the way it would unfold is they would give China an advance warning of such a strike, and as long as it was "limited", would not engage militarily against the U.S.

A war on the Korean peninsula would not only cause a huge number of casualties, but send the world into an economic collapse.


NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
4. If NK is "begging for war"
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:15 AM
Sep 2017

Perhaps it's best not to give it to them? But that's not exciting enough for the Orange Monster.

Kim Jung-Un is a wacko, but he's not suicidal. He (or his generals) knows damn well what'll happen to North Korea if he attacks the U.S.

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
5. Trump's opportunity to appear Presidential?
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:16 AM
Sep 2017

This "crisis" gives Trump the golden opporunity to play the strong leader. Who knows what steps may need to be taken to keep Americans out of "harms way". No time for anymore invesigations into his connections and business dealngs with Russia?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
6. There was a murder-suicide across the street from me last week.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:21 AM
Sep 2017

The male "head" of the household had had enough arguing and finger-pointing thru the week prior. He finally "lost it" Tuesday evening - when he concluded that he couldn't intimidate household members into doing as he desired. (Cleaning up the house, if you can believe that!) He took his gunmetal gray 9MM and dispatched his 28YO stepson, then his wife, then himself. Problem solved. Of course, there was only domestic fallout in that case. The kind of fallout these two ego-oriented buffoons want to give us will be the gift that keeps on giving.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
8. I'm guessing the back-room talk is how to remove Kim Jong-un from leadership.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:32 AM
Sep 2017

I would assume the countries thinking about this are China, Japan, America.

I heard that Switzerland offered to mediate talks.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
15. And just a reminder who Nikki Haley is......
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 01:50 PM
Sep 2017
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nikki-haley-confederate-flag-ceos

I get a little tired, especially from the likes of Chris Matthews, gushing over her for the removal of the confederate flag. She only did it when it became an issue that had no going back to it's removal. And I have no trust in her at the UN. She blows with the wind and speaks for a lunatic.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
17. She was my governor.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 02:02 PM
Sep 2017

Everything you say about her is true. You are right not to trust her. She's nothing but an opportunist, who is as corrupt, stupid, and dishonest as everyone else in this current administration. She is another in the long line of Trump appointees who are completely unqualified for the job they were given.

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