Georgia Tech Student-Activist Shot Dead by Campus Police
Source: NBC News
An engineering student who was also an LGBTQ activist was shot and killed by Georgia Tech campus police on Saturday night, officials said Sunday.
The school identified the victim as Scout Schultz, 21, a fourth year engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, who police said was armed with a knife. They made contact with him outside of a campus parking garage after they received a 911 call at 11:17 p.m. on Saturday, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The original call reported that Schultz was also carrying a gun, officials said.
In a video taken by a witness, Schultz can be heard yelling "Shoot me!" at police, as they tell him to drop the knife.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-tech-student-activist-shot-dead-campus-police-n802146?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Turbineguy
(37,320 posts)Why wait that long?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Late nights and long hours characterized my senior year in engineering. Some of my classmates used stimulants to get through it.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Anything to stay awake through the night into the next morning so I could plow through the tests on fumes and then face-plant in my dorm bed as long as it took me to recover.
NickB79
(19,233 posts)A heavy course load in a demanding major, all that stress, and untreated depression can be lethal. I know that feeling all too well.
icymist
(15,888 posts)It's really sad.
Me.
(35,454 posts)They were doing him a favor?
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Let him fall asleep, get thirsty, drug him with the water to put him out, gas him with something to make him pass out (?), anything besides killing him!
WTF? I hope the university does something about this.
Initech
(100,065 posts)Although I cant believe the dad's first reaction was to trash Antfa.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Initech
(100,065 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Possible suicidal behavior in jail.
Oneironaut
(5,492 posts)It's an extremely odd comment. I'm sorry for his loss, though.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)giving a specific warning to antifa when a general warning to all activists would have been better.
Initech
(100,065 posts)Dude, your son just died and you have to bring Antifa into this? What does that have to do with anything?
former9thward
(31,986 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Or maybe he's simply acting out... since we're qualifying our statements with "maybe" , you can conjecture anything that validates a petulant, though irrelevant response.
icymist
(15,888 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Seems stun guns should be on them at all times to prevent murder
I think the dad was saying the cops will shoot you Antifa they shot him so beware
NickB79
(19,233 posts)If he really was that suicidal. And no cop is trained to use tasers or pepper spray against someone with a knife or gun if they come at you.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)haveahart
(905 posts)well feel like killing.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)He/she will be traumatized for her selfish decision to involve others in ending her own life.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)"The school identified the victim as Scout Schultz, 21, a fourth-year engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, who police said was armed with a knife. Schultz, president of Georgia Tech's Pride Alliance, identified as non-binary and intersex and preferred to be referred to with they/them gender pronouns, according to the alliance's website."
Jose Garcia
(2,594 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Fascinating stuff....
"Ugh I wish they hadn't shared their deadname 😕 I haven't seen any other reports that do- just for future reference it's not ok to use a trans person's deadname (the name they were given at birth but have since changed) unless they give permission & its super common to deadname or misgender trans people after death. They were doing pretty good until they felt it necessary to do that- it's very strange and voyeuristic to point that out when if they had wanted to use that name they wouldn't have changed it. We don't need to know that."
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I do not know if the officer is a man or woman. It was not a reference to the deceased. Bad sentence structure. Sorry.
enough
(13,256 posts)Red Mountain
(1,731 posts)Deescalate. Back off. Your lives are not in danger, officers. You may have to shoot to protect others......but killing because someone doesn't follow your orders isn't right.
The next video after this one resulted in an aggressive officer being shot. He wouldn't have been had he backed off and asked for help and the subject of this thread would also be ok.
Shitty training. It doesn't have to be this way. It shouldn't........and the lawyers will make the best of it right up until the insurance companies demand standards that minimize these incidents.
Sad to say.
icymist
(15,888 posts)Schultz yells at police to shoot and officers respond, Drop the knife! Drop the knife!" more than a dozen times.
"Nobody wants to hurt you, an officer can be heard saying. Drop the knife."
A multipurpose tool found on the ground is believed to be the knife Schultz held. The tool did not show an extended blade.
http://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/georgia-tech-police-fatally-shoot-student-holding-knife/610818441
Video at the link
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Anyone who advances on a cop with a weapon is going to meet a bad end. They had no choice in the matter.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)There were 13 separate "Drop the knife" commands given to him in the course of that video.
FM123
(10,053 posts)enough
(13,256 posts)Is there no way to subdue an individual armed with a knife when you have more than one officer involved, other than killing the person point blank?
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)MLAA
(17,285 posts)groundloop
(11,518 posts)My son just graduated from Tech also.
Anyway, as far as I can determine, this was the first time any Tech police officer has ever fired a weapon in the line of duty. It's a sad day for the entire Tech community, I really really wish this incident would have ended differently.
MLAA
(17,285 posts)lostnfound
(16,176 posts)JDC
(10,127 posts)Did he really charge at them? Shoot a warning shot, shoot the legs; Shooting To Kill just to make sure doesn't always seem prudent.
And telling someone to drop the knife 12-13 times doesn't mean time to execute. "Nothing left that I can do, I'm off in 20 mins". Try telling them 15 times.
yagotme
(2,919 posts)Center mass aiming point, largest target on the body. A warning shot is rarely utilized, as officers (individuals, too) are responsible for every round they fire. A warning shot (which is also deadly force) may ricochet into someone else. Shooting at the legs is difficult, and can be as deadly as a center chest hit if the artery is struck. Also, police aren't always "gun types". I have seen some horrible targets on police/corrections ranges. Local police chief years ago was happy that he only missed the silhouette 3 times at 25 yards.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)The again, actual cops with guns are a pretty shitty combo as well.