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blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:00 AM Sep 2017

Rolling Stone, Once a Counterculture Bible, Will Be Put Up for Sale

Source: New York Times

From a loft in San Francisco in 1967, a 21-year-old named Jann S. Wenner started a magazine that would become the counterculture bible for baby boomers. Rolling Stone defined cool, cultivated literary icons and produced star-making covers that were such coveted real estate they inspired a song.

But the headwinds buffeting the publishing industry, and some costly strategic missteps, have steadily taken a financial toll on Rolling Stone, and a botched story three years ago about an unproven gang rape at the University of Virginia badly bruised the magazine’s journalistic reputation.

And so, after a half-century reign that propelled him into the realm of the rock stars and celebrities who graced his covers, Mr. Wenner is putting his company’s controlling stake in Rolling Stone up for sale, relinquishing his hold on a publication he has led since its founding.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/business/rolling-stone-magazine-sale.html



How about we all form a group and buy it!
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Rolling Stone, Once a Counterculture Bible, Will Be Put Up for Sale (Original Post) blue-wave Sep 2017 OP
Nah, that's got nothing to do with it. The Music industry just got very UNCOOL! YOHABLO Sep 2017 #1
what an amazing life story, Jann S. Wenner! Sunlei Sep 2017 #2
NO, this can't be true! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #3
That brings back some memories. CentralMass Sep 2017 #6
Yeah it do madokie Sep 2017 #14
Seems like music just doesn't mean as much to people as it did in the late 60s/early 70s. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #4
Ha ha, great minds I guess... BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #5
Actually, ... music means as much, just not means the same Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #10
Great video /essay. CanSocDem Sep 2017 #16
Thanks for posting that video. It is dead on. Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #17
Yep. Rock peaked in 1967. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #21
Music was the chief expression of revolt in the '60s .... kwassa Sep 2017 #18
I always liked the xxqqqzme Sep 2017 #29
Rupert Murdoch is salivating. mac56 Sep 2017 #7
Watch right wingers buy it... yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #8
Harvard School of Business Optical.Catalyst Sep 2017 #9
Actually, ... all paper publications have been DISRUPTED by the internet. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #11
Village Voice is folding... Zoonart Sep 2017 #12
actually it's more melm00se Sep 2017 #13
Oh baloney. Codeine Sep 2017 #22
Good God. Don't let Murdoch or Mercer get a hold of this. n/t CousinIT Sep 2017 #15
"a botched story three years ago" BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #19
First the Daily News, now Rolling Stone. Javaman Sep 2017 #20
The Village Voice LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #24
yes and the voice. :( Javaman Sep 2017 #25
The Daily News?!!! bettyellen Sep 2017 #26
yeah, it was recently sold. I believe last week. nt Javaman Sep 2017 #30
Ahh, shit! My Dad taught me to read with the TDN. Headlines about politics and cartoons bettyellen Sep 2017 #31
Maybe Bezos will buy it TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #23
Obsolete format Kaleva Sep 2017 #27
Counterculture? johnp3907 Sep 2017 #28
Baaaaaaaaaaad news. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #32

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. Yeah it do
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:43 AM
Sep 2017

Silvia's mother, when you're in love with a beautiful woman. Oh man what a start of a day

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
4. Seems like music just doesn't mean as much to people as it did in the late 60s/early 70s.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:22 AM
Sep 2017

I remember a very different time years ago when people cared about new rock music and who was on the cover of Rolling Stone:



Not so much any more. Good new rock and roll songs are few and far between. There's not as much to write about other than typical celebrity gossip stuff. The new owner will probably try to make money by talking more about who's sleeping with who.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,957 posts)
10. Actually, ... music means as much, just not means the same
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:29 AM
Sep 2017

Look at how many people walk around with ear buds glued to their ears or proper headphones on. Sure, some are listening to podcasts but the great majority are listening to music. I dare say that more people are listening to more music more often these days.

The thing is that though some of it has a rebellious nature, much of it doesn't have the same meaning in people's lives as it did 50 and 40 years ago. I think a greater percentage of it could be called "pop".

I don't watch or listen to many video essays (preferring reading), but this one was calm, detailed and gives an excellent explanation of "Why is modern pop music so terrible": http://www.learnreason.com/why-is-modern-pop-music-so-terrible/ going into technical, business, and sociological aspects.

Here's the embedded video https://www.facebook.com/thoughty2/videos/1531012313622140/ but the above link accesses it without taking you to facebook.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
16. Great video /essay.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:53 AM
Sep 2017

But your point about individuals and 'ear buds' could be saying something other than 'more people are listening to music'...

Something like: "Don't bother me."

.



Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
17. Thanks for posting that video. It is dead on.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 08:34 AM
Sep 2017

I know that popular absolutely SUCKS today, and it's not just because I'm an old fart who wishes that the little Bruno Mars fans would get off his lawn. This is not a "generation gap" thing.

When I was a teen, I discovered the music of Pink Floyd, which was almost never played on the radio in my little shithole farm town. I remember playing Dark Side of the Moon for my mom the very first time, thinking that she was probably going to hate it. She absolutely LOVED it. To this day, my elderly mother is a bigger Pink Floyd fan than I am and still buys anything and everything those guys come out with.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
18. Music was the chief expression of revolt in the '60s ....
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:30 AM
Sep 2017

It was more than just entertainment, and the subject matter was wider than love songs. Music had a much greater social role than it does now. It was about the counterculture and the resistance to the Vietnam War, and was the chief expression of the youth of that era. It was artistically much more experimental as well.

Currently, it has reverted to it's former role of entertainment only. This makes popular music less important than it was, and Rolling Stone less important than it was.

Aside from the woes of the publishing industry, rock 'n roll hasn't seen any major innovations in decades. Unlike jazz, where major stylistic changes would take place every decade or so, the basic styles of rock laid down in the '60s and '70s are still with us today. This makes the new music feel very recycled, with little impetus to buy the new stuff when it sounds like a weak version of the old stuff.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
29. I always liked the
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:22 PM
Sep 2017

political reporting. I still remember the article about Tom Delay. That profile was scary. As it turned out, it was spot on.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
8. Watch right wingers buy it...
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:02 AM
Sep 2017

Nugent, Kid Rock, one of them perhaps. Hoping to ruin a good thing just like TRUMP DOES.

Optical.Catalyst

(1,355 posts)
9. Harvard School of Business
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:05 AM
Sep 2017

Take a successful format for a simple magazine that communicated what people were thinking to other like minded people, and jam that round peg into a square hole for the sake of a profit. They came in and obscured the core attractiveness of the magazine (telling interesting stories) by having accountants selling advertisements, marketing people dictating image, and production people forcing a schedule. When the financial wizards with MBAs started approving stories that would 'sell' over stories that were informative, the magazine was doomed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,957 posts)
11. Actually, ... all paper publications have been DISRUPTED by the internet.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:33 AM
Sep 2017

Rolling Stone has had accountants, sold ads, molded its image to markets, and schedules for decades. Your complaints are about things that happened decades ago but are not what has caused the recent financial troubles.

Zoonart

(11,832 posts)
12. Village Voice is folding...
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:20 AM
Sep 2017

Counterculture icons are falling because the counteruclture no longer exsists. Time for a new revolution.

melm00se

(4,984 posts)
13. actually it's more
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:34 AM
Sep 2017

due to the failing of printed media.

this is partially driven by the fact that they charge for the print copy but release(d) the same content on the internet for free. so why pay for it?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Oh baloney.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 PM
Sep 2017

Counterculturalism is alive and well, it's just not as dependent on print media as it was years ago.

Shit changes, people. Just because it's not being done the same way a bunch of graybeards did it back in the "good old days" doesn't mean it isn't being done at all. You guys all sound like the generation your protest music railed against.

BumRushDaShow

(128,455 posts)
19. "a botched story three years ago"
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:36 AM
Sep 2017

THAT is what really took them down.

They have had some excellent long-form articles over the decades and it's a shame that they were so rattled of late to throw in the towel. They just have to make sure that some RW douchebag doesn't buy it just to NPR it.

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
25. yes and the voice. :(
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:55 PM
Sep 2017

I can't believe I forgot to mention that.

losing that one was like a stab to my heart.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
23. Maybe Bezos will buy it
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:08 PM
Sep 2017

Can't say I blame Jann for selling it. He's 71 and has 6 kids, plus his partner and an ex-wife who's still VP of Wenner Media. Too many heirs to keep things from getting messy. Best to cash out.

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