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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:04 AM Sep 2017

Trump blames Clintons for nuclear North Korea

Source: Politico




By LOUIS NELSON 09/20/2017 07:30 AM EDT

President Donald Trump on Wednesday cast blame for the nuclear-armed North Korea that his administration faces on the Clinton family, blaming former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton for failing to disarm the regime of dictator Kim Jong Un when they had the chance.

“After allowing North Korea to research and build Nukes while Secretary of State (Bill C also), Crooked Hillary now criticizes,” the president wrote on Twitter Wednesday morning.

Months after her surprise loss in last year’s presidential election, Hillary Clinton has reemerged over the past two weeks on a book tour to hawk her memoir of the 2016 election, entitled “What Happened.” In public and in her book, the former secretary of state has been unsparingly critical of Trump’s presidency thus far, including his handling of North Korea.

During his first address to the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, Trump harshly criticized the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, saying "Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime.”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/20/trump-north-korea-hillary-bill-clinton-242918

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Trump blames Clintons for nuclear North Korea (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
It's mommy's fault I didn't pay the water bill underpants Sep 2017 #1
He missed by one administration: it was Dubya's fault. sandensea Sep 2017 #2
Yes I do remember this FakeNoose Sep 2017 #6
Bill Clinton stopped N. Korea from getting a nuclear weapon because he used diplomacy Botany Sep 2017 #3
Trump should spend more time learning, less time spewing nonsense... FailureToCommunicate Sep 2017 #4
Yeah, Like That's Gonna Happen! ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #7
Deal with it shit head! leftofcool Sep 2017 #5
So Trump is going to 'disarm' NK? keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #8
Of course, with fornicate face everything is either the fault of... 47of74 Sep 2017 #9
How 'bout you get out the way and let Hillary fix it? forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #10
Trump just makes shit up. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #11
He's just covering up for Calvin Coolidge... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2017 #12

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
2. He missed by one administration: it was Dubya's fault.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:09 AM
Sep 2017

Bush's Trump-like saber-rattling is what prompted King Jong Il to rescind the agreement Jimmy Carter had obtained with Kim Il Sung in 1994.

IAEA monitors were kicked out, monitoring equipment removed, and the North Korean nuclear program - which had been suspended with the '94 Carter agreement - resumed full-speed.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
6. Yes I do remember this
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:22 AM
Sep 2017

Quoted from Wikipedia:

In early 1994, Kim began investing in nuclear power to offset energy shortages brought on by economic problems. This was the first of many "nuclear crises". On 19 May 1994, Kim ordered spent fuel to be unloaded from the already disputed nuclear research facility in Yongbyon. Despite repeated chiding from Western nations, Kim continued to conduct nuclear research and carry on with the uranium enrichment program. In June 1994, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter travelled to Pyongyang for talks with Kim. To the astonishment of the United States and the International Atomic Energy Agency, Kim agreed to halt his nuclear research program and seemed to be embarking upon a new opening to the West.[66]


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il-sung

Let's see, 1994 who was our POTUS then? Oh yeah, Bill Clinton.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
3. Bill Clinton stopped N. Korea from getting a nuclear weapon because he used diplomacy
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:15 AM
Sep 2017

Gov. Richardson of New Mexico used to meet a delegation from N. Korea
in the Philippines and N. Korea got some excess food stuffs from the U.S.
and then they agreeded to not make any nukes.

w bush quit talking to N. Korea and then they built a nuke.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
4. Trump should spend more time learning, less time spewing nonsense...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:18 AM
Sep 2017

Here ya go Donny:

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

On Bush is where most of the blame should fall:

From a Nation article:

"Finally, the framework collapsed in 2003 after the Bush administration—which had come to office with grave doubts about the agreement—dredged up US intelligence from the 1990s to accuse the North of starting a highly enriched uranium program as a second avenue to the bomb. (It hadn’t yet, though it was scouting the world for enrichment machinery to use later.) Bush tore up the framework agreement, exacerbating the deterioration in relations he had sparked a year earlier when he named North Korea part of his “axis of evil” in January 2002. In response, the North kicked out the IAEA inspectors and began building what would become its first bomb, in 2006, triggering a second nuclear crisis that continues to this day. “I think they were [cheating] to hedge their bets because we were cheating too,” Lawrence Wilkerson, the chief of staff to Colin Powell in 2002, recently told The Real News.

In other words, the full story is complicated, and blame can easily be cast on both sides. But the results were disastrous, as Sigal summarized in his masterful history of US–North Korean negotiations published last year by the Korean Institute for National Unification and Columbia Law School.

“When President Bush took office, North Korea, thanks to diplomacy, had stopped testing longer-range missiles,” he wrote. “It had less than a bomb’s worth of plutonium and was verifiably not making more. Six years later, as a result of Washington’s broken promises and financial sanctions, it had seven to nine bombs’ worth [of plutonium], had resumed longer-range test launches, and felt free to test nuclear weapons.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/diplomacy-with-north-korea-has-worked-before-and-can-work-again/

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
9. Of course, with fornicate face everything is either the fault of...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:47 AM
Sep 2017

...President Obama, Mrs. Clinton, or President Clinton. Or some combination thereof.

Jesus, what a fornicating baby.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
10. How 'bout you get out the way and let Hillary fix it?
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:42 AM
Sep 2017

You're the one who escalated the rhetoric, 45. Kim was waiting for someone to call his bluff.

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