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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:00 PM Sep 2017

Graham: Kimmel bought liberal talking point 'hook, line and sinker'

Source: The Hill




BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 09/20/17 11:35 AM EDT

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Wednesday shot back at late-night host Jimmy Kimmel for his "unfair" criticism of Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and his involvement in the new GOP health care bill, saying Kimmel likely read a "liberal talking point" before hastily attacking the lawmaker.

"I bet you he never called Sen. Cassidy and said 'would you please set this straight?' I bet he looked at some liberal talking point, bought it hook, line and sinker, and went after Bill Cassidy without talking to him, and I think that's unfair,” Graham said on "FOX & Friends."

Graham said that their health care bill will cover preexisting conditions, while adding that he sympathized with Kimmel, whose child had been diagnosed with a heart condition shortly after birth.

"I understand the emotional nature of having a sick child, and we're all grateful your child is doing well. Bill Cassidy is a doctor who worked in a nonprofit hospital serving the underprivileged. Factually, our bill requires preexisting illnesses to be covered in the block grant," Graham said in part, adding that the bill would allow "50 states to come up with solutions to help sick people, not just some bureaucrat in Washington."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/351534-graham-kimmel-bought-liberal-talking-point-hook-line-and-sinker

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Graham: Kimmel bought liberal talking point 'hook, line and sinker' (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
I would trust and believe JK ANY DAY over those two fucks. Hateful little bitches. CurtEastPoint Sep 2017 #1
So Graham, truth hurts you & your stooge huh? nt irisblue Sep 2017 #2
Truth doesn't matter to these feckless racists. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #5
One little thing cyclonefence Sep 2017 #3
My mom worked for a non-profit where the president bragged he was the highest paid in the country MattP Sep 2017 #6
Well, National is still better than Phoenix or DeVry - they can maintain accredidation. haele Sep 2017 #18
Ass Hat Graham Plucketeer Sep 2017 #4
Where is that pic of politicians with money company out of their pockets..was it asiliveandbreathe Sep 2017 #11
Oh for F's Sake... MurderMittenLiberal Sep 2017 #7
Funny how most "liberal talking points" follow the teachings of Jesus... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #8
I hope Kimmel responds to this on his show tonight. crazylikafox Sep 2017 #9
Must-see TV. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #15
Okay graham - whatever - go talk to the families who had fed funding withheld by asiliveandbreathe Sep 2017 #10
Sen. Lindsey Graham desperately smears Jimmy Kimmel for speaking up for kids like his son riversedge Sep 2017 #12
Lindsay is a liar .. bigtime. Hieronymus Sep 2017 #40
Hey Graham your so full of sh*t turbinetree Sep 2017 #13
So, according to Graham, I can't criticize the Iraq War without consulting Bush first. So unfair. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #14
Some ethereal "Block Grant" will take care of everything The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #16
"Graham said on "FOX & Friends." ONLY 6 words U need to see benld74 Sep 2017 #17
I am ashamed to have that sorry excuse for a human being as my Senator. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #19
And the Pundies wonder what liberals stand for? Not being cruel for starters. nt deminks Sep 2017 #20
No one knows what the fuck their bill will do BlueIdaho Sep 2017 #21
Graham has gone a little crazy lately awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #22
I'm ASTOUNDED and I HATE that every time these guys make a claim, the media and pundits wiggs Sep 2017 #23
If he has such faith in the states to experiment with health care after ACA, why didn't it happen in wiggs Sep 2017 #24
Lindsey honey. gilligan Sep 2017 #25
i know MFM008 Sep 2017 #26
Fuck you Lindsey Graham standingtall Sep 2017 #27
I hope if your bill passes, karma exists. I hope I get to see that karma. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #28
If what Graham says is true... Buzz cook Sep 2017 #29
Who on the Fox & Friends couch challenged him? underpants Sep 2017 #30
Will we ever see any REAL legislation in 2017? FakeNoose Sep 2017 #31
Nope. Repeal Obamacare. Investigate Benghazi. Repeat. Initech Sep 2017 #34
Here are Kimmel's comments Gothmog Sep 2017 #32
Go blow it out your ass, Graham! Initech Sep 2017 #33
Oh, shut up Lindsey janterry Sep 2017 #35
this is why DonCoquixote Sep 2017 #36
Excuse Me, Lindsey, But. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #37
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #38
Graham is falling prey to the Trump syndrome OldHippieChick Sep 2017 #39
Then, SENATOR Graham, why don't you list those liberal talking points Mr. Ected Sep 2017 #41

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Truth doesn't matter to these feckless racists.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:13 PM
Sep 2017

All they want is to tell their base they "repealed Obamacare."

Their base is most definitely 'fact free!'

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
3. One little thing
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:09 PM
Sep 2017

in this morass of crap-talk is something that's bugged me for a while. Graham says Cassidy "worked in a nonprofit hospital"--as if Cassidy were working for free. "Nonprofit" means that the hospital doesn't pay taxes, not that it doesn't make money. And working for a nonprofit anything doesn't mean you don't get paid.

There's no moral high ground in working for a nonprofit hospital. Working for free in an inner-city clinic, or for Doctors Without Borders, well, there's your moral high ground.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
6. My mom worked for a non-profit where the president bragged he was the highest paid in the country
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:13 PM
Sep 2017

National University if you're wondering they're awful

haele

(12,647 posts)
18. Well, National is still better than Phoenix or DeVry - they can maintain accredidation.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:43 PM
Sep 2017

But that's not saying much...

Haele

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
4. Ass Hat Graham
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:11 PM
Sep 2017

"50 states to come up with solutions to help sick people, not just some bureaucrat in Washington." Proclaims the Whizturd! Yeah, and fifty states setting up their own systems of bureaucrats is always superior - and certainly more fair!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
11. Where is that pic of politicians with money company out of their pockets..was it
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:19 PM
Sep 2017

Romney?? Anyway - follow the money....greed takes over...

7. Oh for F's Sake...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:14 PM
Sep 2017

Now late night hosts have to fact check and be 100% sure of something before making a statement? If only the President of the United States was held to the same standard....

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
8. Funny how most "liberal talking points" follow the teachings of Jesus...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:14 PM
Sep 2017

and not Supply Side Jesus either.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
10. Okay graham - whatever - go talk to the families who had fed funding withheld by
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:16 PM
Sep 2017

the so-called Gov Brewer of AZ.....yes, people died from not funding transplants...of which she will not say where the $30 million went.....

RESIST PERSIST

riversedge

(70,187 posts)
12. Sen. Lindsey Graham desperately smears Jimmy Kimmel for speaking up for kids like his son
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:19 PM
Sep 2017



Sen. Lindsey Graham desperately smears Jimmy Kimmel for speaking up for kids like his son

https://shareblue.com/sen-lindsey-graham-desperately-smears-jimmy-kimmel-for-speaking-up-for-kids-like-his-son/

By Oliver Willis | September 20, 2017

Conservatives are furiously attacking comedian Jimmy Kimmel after he exposed how the latest Republican bill to repeal Obamacare will hurt millions of Americans.


Comedian Jimmy Kimmel has become public enemy number one with conservatives just hours after his monologue exposed the cruelty of the latest Republican health care bill.

Kimmel called out Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA), co-sponsor of the Cassidy-Graham bill to repeal Obamacare, after he appeared on Kimmel’s show in May and made a series of promises about what his bill would contain.

Kimmel explained to his audience Tuesday night that Cassidy’s earlier promises were a sham:

When he was on this publicity tour, he listed his demands for a health care bill very clearly. These were his words. He said he wants coverage for all, no discrimination based on preexisting conditions, lower premiums for middle-class families, and no lifetime caps. And guess what? The new bill? Does none of those things.

Kimmel was blunt about Cassidy’s deception, noting, “This guy, Bill Cassidy, just lied right to my face.”

Cassidy issued an evasive and dishonest response to Kimmel the next morning, refusing to directly address his criticisms of the bill.

But because Republicans want a bill — any bill — to show progress in their attempt to dismantle President Barack Obama’s health care reforms, Kimmel is now coming under fire for exposing the legislation Republicans had hoped to pass without much scrutiny...................................




turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
13. Hey Graham your so full of sh*t
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:25 PM
Sep 2017

take for instance your hypocrisy................your retired from the Air Force JAG office did you not ass****, you collect a pension and health care from that system ------correct................that's system is socialism ass****that you get paid for by the taxpayers.

And as for you buddy being a doctor working in a non profit--------------FUCK YOU and him and everyone else sponsoring this piece of legislation sh*t and trying to have it both ways.

Your math ass**** doesn't work, which means that in 2026 no one with a disabilities or over the age of 65 will have any insurance, but you will, ass*****, because your "federalist" of BS, means that you will through legislative fiat cut funds to the states after you give tax breaks to the same fucking insurance companies and corporations that don't pay taxes................and then the states will be forced to make a critical decision, that your fucking doctor friend and the Dean Hellers
and that worthless POS Johnson, should know.................the state governor will not have the funds to support the medical needs of the state-----------------and they will essence create death panels



SO FUCK YOU

U.S. Capitol Switchboard, (202) 224-3121

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
14. So, according to Graham, I can't criticize the Iraq War without consulting Bush first. So unfair.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:28 PM
Sep 2017

Condescending f*ck.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
16. Some ethereal "Block Grant" will take care of everything
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:38 PM
Sep 2017

Of course this would have to all be worked out "at a later date" like never.


Bullshit.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
17. "Graham said on "FOX & Friends." ONLY 6 words U need to see
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:43 PM
Sep 2017

B4 anyone goes after Graham

I had NOT heard anything from him in a number of weeks

NOW I know why
Getting schooled on this latest GOP load-o-crap of a health careless bill

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
21. No one knows what the fuck their bill will do
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 12:47 PM
Sep 2017

Because they ain't showing it to anyone. But my guess is - if it had any redeeming value they would be shouting it from the roof tops. Remember, it's not against the law for a sitting Senator or Congressmember to lie.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
22. Graham has gone a little crazy lately
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:01 PM
Sep 2017

Saw a video of him really pissed off defending "HIS" bill.

Then the comments about having Bannon on his team....crazy shit.

It's like someone has kompromat on him the way he's acting.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
23. I'm ASTOUNDED and I HATE that every time these guys make a claim, the media and pundits
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:02 PM
Sep 2017

give them credibility by default and we have to spend days comparing their claims to others' claims.

Let's instead start with a recitation of all the medicare, ACA, social security, budget, climate change LIES and then start the discussion of their current claim with..."Well, I don't know why we should believe them this time after the 89th lie this month...perhaps we should challenge them to provide some proof?"

They should start each claim having to climb a mountain of doubt. But panels routinely debate different points of view as though they have equal weight...and that's just not right.

Similarly, Trump has lied more than 1,000 documented times since inauguration...why in the world do we give anything he says the benefit of the doubt and the benefit of analysis?

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
24. If he has such faith in the states to experiment with health care after ACA, why didn't it happen in
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:05 PM
Sep 2017

all the years before 2010 before ACA?

And why do his colleagues want to pass legislation barring states from experimenting with single payer?

I know the answer to these questions, as do most on DU. But the questions and answers don't see the light of day on CNN.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
27. Fuck you Lindsey Graham
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:29 PM
Sep 2017

Every medical organization under the sun says your bill is trash, but Cassidy knows better because he worked as a doctor at non- profit hospital please! As greedy is Cassidy has shown I doubt it was his first choice to work at a non-profit hospital. He probably couldn't find work anywhere else at the time.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
28. I hope if your bill passes, karma exists. I hope I get to see that karma.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:29 PM
Sep 2017

ps

Fuck you and every person who agrees with you.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
29. If what Graham says is true...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:36 PM
Sep 2017

Then he shouldn't mind waiting till the bill has been scored by the CBO and he shouldn't mind vigorous debate in the senate.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
31. Will we ever see any REAL legislation in 2017?
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 01:48 PM
Sep 2017

It's just been ridiculous versions of the same crappy no-healthcare bill they started out with.
We didn't want it then and we sure as hell don't want it now. Leave the ACA alone.

GOP - Stop wasting time on this nonsense and get some real work done. What are we paying you for?



 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
35. Oh, shut up Lindsey
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 02:07 PM
Sep 2017

Truth is truth - Graham KNOWS that some states will use that block grant money well..............and others (in particular some poor southern states) will not.

People will die if this passes - there's no way around that

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
36. this is why
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 03:09 PM
Sep 2017

No matter how many GOP hate another GOP, no matter what nice things they do for charity, NO GOP is ever to be trusted. Some will debate about being a third party versus blue dog, but a "yellow dog" is one that never ever votes GOP, because they realize the worst of the dems (and we do have some stinkers) is better than the best GOP.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
37. Excuse Me, Lindsey, But. . .
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 03:23 PM
Sep 2017

. . .if the purpose of the block grants is to let the states make their own decisions (a pathetic mantra of the Rs), then how would you enforce that they "must" cover pre-existing conditions?

Once you send the money to them, they do what they think best. That's what YOU said. Just now!

So, there is no enforcement mechanism to protect those with PECs. You are a liar.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
39. Graham is falling prey to the Trump syndrome
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:56 PM
Sep 2017

If it's on t.v. we have to respond and make fools of ourselves!!!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
41. Then, SENATOR Graham, why don't you list those liberal talking points
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:56 AM
Sep 2017

And refute them, point by point, on the record?

Without vigorous Congressional debate, why are you willing to ramrod through legislation? The American people DON'T WANT TO take your word for it, you snake and sell-out.

Even your behavior change in the past few weeks is obvious to all of us. You're a lot more surly than you were in July.

Why?

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