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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:49 PM Sep 2017

Republicans attempt to buy Murkowski's vote in new draft of health care bill

Source: Independent Journal Review

A Republican Senate aide told Independent Journal Review Thursday that Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-La.) are attempting to buy Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski's support through new changes to their controversial Obamacare repeal proposal before an expected vote next week. According to the aide, here is a summary of what the new draft of the bill entails:

"This draft includes 3 separate provisions benefitting Alaska.

1. Alaska (along with Hawaii) will continue to receive Obamacare’s premium tax credits while they are repealed for all other states. It appears this exemption will not affect Alaska receiving its state allotment under the new block grant in addition to the premium tax credits.
2. Delays implementation of the Medicaid per capita caps for Alaska and Hawaii for years in which the policy would reduce their funding below what they would have received in 2020 plus CPI-M [Consumer Price Index for Medical Care]. 3. Provides for an increased federal Medicaid matching rate (FMAP) for both Alaska and Hawaii."

Read more: http://ijr.com/2017/09/979983-republicans-attempt-buy-murkowskis-vote-new-draft-health-care-bill/

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Republicans attempt to buy Murkowski's vote in new draft of health care bill (Original Post) kstewart33 Sep 2017 OP
How would that be fair to all the other states? Ligyron Sep 2017 #1
It's not meant to be fair NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #20
You'd think this would cause screams of "Where's mine!?" up and down the Senate halls. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2017 #26
I think they know enough.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #33
This sound like the cornhusker kickbacks IronLionZion Sep 2017 #2
Rethugs have no shame. kairos12 Sep 2017 #24
Let's Hope That Murkowski Has Enough Integrity Not To Fall For This......nt global1 Sep 2017 #3
He's a repug, there is no integrity RainCaster Sep 2017 #11
He's A She & She Voted Against The Last Attempt The Repugs Made To Repeal & Replace.... global1 Sep 2017 #14
Murkowsky is a "she" OldHippieChick Sep 2017 #17
The last vote means nothing now wolfie001 Sep 2017 #21
Lately? She voted against repealing Obamacare. Weeks ago. bettyellen Sep 2017 #27
I'm referring to the vote NOW!!! wolfie001 Sep 2017 #41
Lately means recently. Not next week. And a big hello to you too. bettyellen Sep 2017 #42
Last time...... wolfie001 Sep 2017 #43
You should have chosen a catchphrase that applies then. Because she's done stuff for you lately. HA bettyellen Sep 2017 #44
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #45
Sorry, SergeStorms Sep 2017 #34
He? we can do it Sep 2017 #40
They don't care how it looks... Promee Sep 2017 #4
The only person who I think may actually vote NO is Murkowski. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #8
Well, if Murkowski doesn't take the bribe. Promee Sep 2017 #13
His grandstanding and ego are almost as bad as BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #31
Chinless Mitch is so all fired Scarsdale Sep 2017 #12
Let's see... Promee Sep 2017 #15
But leaving 32 Million ppl without healthcare is the major impact. Everything else is politics. iluvtennis Sep 2017 #18
And if these people cared about that... Promee Sep 2017 #22
32 million ppl are worth $12.50 each to the rethugs... iluvtennis Sep 2017 #25
follow the money. mopinko Sep 2017 #23
Yes, donor money, and lots of it. Plus, he and wifey will benefit from any tax WinkyDink Sep 2017 #28
Mitch Mc Turtle is the one who destroyed participatory democracy. Ligyron Sep 2017 #37
So Get On The Phones People And Call Collins.....nt global1 Sep 2017 #16
You know, thats one of the problems of federalism. drray23 Sep 2017 #5
I thought the publicans were against marybourg Sep 2017 #6
Is this legal? What's the legal justification for singling those two states out? pnwmom Sep 2017 #7
"Is this legal?" - It isn't even that unusual when major important bills are passed... PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #10
Who rules, makes the rules. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #29
The Republicans are foaming at the mouth to push this motherfucker through...... Old Vet Sep 2017 #9
You omitted "kill." WinkyDink Sep 2017 #30
DESPICABLE politics. Hopefully Lisa will keep her eye on the ball for the good of many, iluvtennis Sep 2017 #19
So the ACA videohead5 Sep 2017 #32
Yup. Promee Sep 2017 #35
She didn't like the result Borchkins Sep 2017 #36
Don't see why McCain would vote for it Juliusseizure Sep 2017 #38
Contact Senator Murkowski. Dem2theMax Sep 2017 #39
Pork barrel Man_Bear_Pig Sep 2017 #46
Wouldn't this invalidate the required CBO score due out tomorrow? briv1016 Sep 2017 #47

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
1. How would that be fair to all the other states?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:54 PM
Sep 2017

Those Reps should be raising holy hell.

So should everyone else with a brain.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
33. I think they know enough....
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:00 PM
Sep 2017

to keep their mouths closed because of the threat of retribution by the GOP hierarchy. The GOP will eat their own in order to get the desired results they want. They've done it before. There is absolutely no honor among Republican thieves.

IronLionZion

(45,418 posts)
2. This sound like the cornhusker kickbacks
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:57 PM
Sep 2017

that the Dems used to bribe Ben Nelson to get his vote for the PPACA. Then promptly removed it.

Alaska won't see these kickbacks and Murkowski should be smart enough to understand that.

global1

(25,240 posts)
14. He's A She & She Voted Against The Last Attempt The Repugs Made To Repeal & Replace....
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Sep 2017

along with John McCain and Susan Collins. We have to appeal to these same people to do the same this time. In my mind it's a matter of integrity not to reverse what they did the last time. They need to put People over Party. I have to think that some of the Repugs have some redeeming qualities and integrity. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

wolfie001

(2,225 posts)
43. Last time......
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 07:14 PM
Sep 2017

OBVIOUSLY my INITIAL point was in reference to the upcoming vote. You don't need to respond cause I'm done with this waste of time. Cheers

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
44. You should have chosen a catchphrase that applies then. Because she's done stuff for you lately. HA
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 07:47 PM
Sep 2017

Response to bettyellen (Reply #44)

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
34. Sorry,
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:04 PM
Sep 2017

but no Republican can be trusted, nor does any Republican deserve the benefit of any doubt. That statement is based upon my own experiences with Republicans, only. And I'm an "old hippie guy", so I've had plenty of experience.

 

Promee

(69 posts)
4. They don't care how it looks...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:04 PM
Sep 2017

...to other people. All that matters is that it passes.

And all you have to do is look to McTreason. He has given himself the wiggle room to say that he would like to schedule a vote next week.

If he schedules it, he's got 50 and this passes.

I think Murkowski takes the deal.

Collins looks like she's going to go for it because all she's said so far is that, "I haven't gotten as many calls about this bill as the last one."

And I have no faith in John "Regular Order" McCain who cried about a lack of it and then voted to install Gorsuch anyway.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
8. The only person who I think may actually vote NO is Murkowski.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:09 PM
Sep 2017

Collins said she was on board with it a few weeks ago so she is going back and forth and I never trust traitor McCain. Murkowski said on TV that she WANTS people to call her office, even from out of state. That surprised me. She wants Planned Parenthood to be funded so if you call her mention that.

 

Promee

(69 posts)
13. Well, if Murkowski doesn't take the bribe.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:20 PM
Sep 2017

That's her. Rand Paul says no because "it doesn't go far enough," when I think the fact is that Kentucky likes them some Kynnect and even they will get bled out under the new law.

So it, like last time, hinges on John, "I wanna strut on TV" McCain.

I have no faith. I mean, if he MEANT that he wouldn't support any bill that didn't embrace regular order, there wouldn't be any silence. He would say, "No regular order here either, so I'm out."

But he's getting off on people continuing to live in fear right now no matter what he decides to do later.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
31. His grandstanding and ego are almost as bad as
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:56 PM
Sep 2017

the fake prez! I do not trust him and he is NOT a hero politically to me. He is 100% asshole and GOP (which is redundant since the GOP is the party of assholes). Sick, greedy, hypocritical sociopaths run this government! They are all severely mentally ill.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Chinless Mitch is so all fired
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:18 PM
Sep 2017

up about getting this passed, I wonder what is in it for him? Mucho $$$$ from wealthy donors? Something is behind his dogged determination to get a lousy "healthcare" bill passed.

 

Promee

(69 posts)
15. Let's see...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:23 PM
Sep 2017

- Notching a win for once.

- Fucking Obama.

- Fucking the people who supported Obama.

Whatever else is gravy.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
28. Yes, donor money, and lots of it. Plus, he and wifey will benefit from any tax
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:47 PM
Sep 2017

cuts, here and in a future "reform" bill.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
37. Mitch Mc Turtle is the one who destroyed participatory democracy.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:34 PM
Sep 2017

No regular order evah anymore is the operating model.

The country is fucked if we don't somehow take back the Congress and if we ever do, we need to stop being nice or giving them any kind of chance to gain any power again period.

How many thousands of Americans have they killed with their wars and now this shit? They are murdering, treasonous bastards and should be treated as such.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
5. You know, thats one of the problems of federalism.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:06 PM
Sep 2017

Senators are out to get the best deal for their states instead of considering the entire country. On top of that, some of these maneuvers smacks of legalized bribery. Essentially, the GOP is trying to buy a vote with taxpayer money.

marybourg

(12,611 posts)
6. I thought the publicans were against
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:07 PM
Sep 2017

********************"PORK BARREL POLITICS"*****************************

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. "Is this legal?" - It isn't even that unusual when major important bills are passed...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:13 PM
Sep 2017

it just isn't usually subject to such publicity.

Remember the controversy over the "Cornhusker Kickback" in an early draft of the ACA?

(See: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/82621-obama-healthcare-plan-nixes-ben-nelsons-cornhusker-kickback-deal )



Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
9. The Republicans are foaming at the mouth to push this motherfucker through......
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:10 PM
Sep 2017

Basicly balls to the walls for these guys, They all want to be Trumps hero. We all know what happens if anybody on the GOP side votes this down, Good grief trumps twitter will be on fire. IMO the repubs are willing to cheat, steal, bribe, Even threaten again to replace Obamacare. There dead serious this time.

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
19. DESPICABLE politics. Hopefully Lisa will keep her eye on the ball for the good of many,
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:00 PM
Sep 2017

and not just Alaska

Borchkins

(724 posts)
36. She didn't like the result
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:43 PM
Sep 2017

for planned parenthood under the previous attempts. She won't like it here either. Hopefully, she votes no.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
38. Don't see why McCain would vote for it
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:30 PM
Sep 2017

I know he's good friends with Graham, but he just made a dramatic thumbs down vote to the GOP/McConnell establishment followed by criticism over process. That was motivated by pride and disgust.

If he votes yes, he's just admitting he doesn't really that pride, he has no values or integrity. Just sucking up to the Kochs, and Trump can justifiably mock him. That'll be his legacy for his 83 years.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
39. Contact Senator Murkowski.
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 12:41 AM
Sep 2017

I live in California. I just went to the Senator's website and she takes emails from ANY state, not just Alaska.

Here is her website; https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/home

It can't hurt to contact her about the bill. And it just might help.

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