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William the Drunkard

(20 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:28 PM Sep 2017

Chuck Todd blames Obama for US race problems by claiming Eric Holder is same as Jeff Sessions

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Raw Story

Sarah K. Burris
21 Sep 2017 at 18:57 ET

In a discussion about race relations in the United States, MSNBC’s Chuck Todd tried to claim that former President Barack Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder is exactly the same as President Donald Trump’s Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Alfonso Aguilar of Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles began the panel by saying that Trump missed the opportunity to bring the country together around race, but then accused Obama of missing the same opportunity.

“I would agree with the president that you have people on both sides of the left and the right trying to use racial confrontation to mobilize their base,” Aguilar said, repeating Trump’s criticized “both sides” argument. “I don’t think clearly that Donald Trump did a good job in easing the tension, after the Charlottesville event, but I don’t think President Obama did either.”

-snip-

“I go back to something Eric Holder said, ‘We’ve never had this conversation. We talked about having this race conversation. We’d never actually have it,'” Todd said citing Holder.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/chuck-todd-blames-obama-for-us-race-problems-by-claiming-eric-holder-is-same-as-jeff-sessions/



There's a video of the whole exchange at the link.
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Chuck Todd blames Obama for US race problems by claiming Eric Holder is same as Jeff Sessions (Original Post) William the Drunkard Sep 2017 OP
Todd can't help being an ass PJMcK Sep 2017 #1
Hmmm why was it I don't listen to or watch chuck tool? mdbl Sep 2017 #2
+2 LittleGirl Sep 2017 #10
I never ever ever watch him. Even if he just shows up as a panelist, I switch. EOM elfin Sep 2017 #3
Chuckie "Both Sides Do It" Todd strikes again. Paladin Sep 2017 #4
"Good Chuckie! A nice "both sides" puppy treat in your next paycheck!" JHB Sep 2017 #5
Hey! ... Mullet-Face! ... Jopin Klobe Sep 2017 #6
Todd is a perfect example of a mediocre white man who has failed up at his job Maven Sep 2017 #7
F Chuck Todd. In a big way. JDC Sep 2017 #8
Chuckie is and always has been a Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #9
Agreed! mdbl Sep 2017 #11
Totally DISAGREE.There are no similarities between Holder and Sessions, except law degree iluvtennis Sep 2017 #12
Another BS Raw Story click bait headline oberliner Sep 2017 #13
Yeah, I was wondering about that. Doesn't sound like Todd. Glad I responded that I'd want to hear Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #15
Personally I think rawstory should be listed as an unreliable LBN source OKNancy Sep 2017 #25
I'd want to see the whole interview before judging. Context & complete statements... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #14
I listened to it earlier today-and also didn't draw the Same Conclusion as OP Stallion Sep 2017 #16
Thanks. Yeah...when something sounds off or too odd, I like to go to the source. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #18
Saw that GaryCnf Sep 2017 #17
Someone please bring Mr. Todd's ride around: Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #19
Ginger please roscoeroscoe Sep 2017 #20
This should not be LBN. It should be ignored on DU. ffr Sep 2017 #21
It should be ignored RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #23
This is a flat out fabrication and I don't like Chuck Toad RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #22
Pure BS from Raw story. obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2017 #24
False equivalency get the red out Sep 2017 #26
Locking - the hosts feel this is opinion, rather than news muriel_volestrangler Sep 2017 #27

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
1. Todd can't help being an ass
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:30 PM
Sep 2017

It's in his DNA.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
2. Hmmm why was it I don't listen to or watch chuck tool?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:34 PM
Sep 2017

Oh ya, now I remember, again, and again, and again.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
10. +2
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:06 PM
Sep 2017

my spouse and I can't stand him. ugh

elfin

(6,262 posts)
3. I never ever ever watch him. Even if he just shows up as a panelist, I switch. EOM
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:35 PM
Sep 2017
 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
4. Chuckie "Both Sides Do It" Todd strikes again.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:37 PM
Sep 2017

It's probably just a matter of time before he starts wailing about Hillary's emails again (with Andrea Mitchell singing harmony).

JHB

(38,212 posts)
5. "Good Chuckie! A nice "both sides" puppy treat in your next paycheck!"
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:41 PM
Sep 2017

"And an extra scoop of Purina Pundit Chow for dinner."

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
6. Hey! ... Mullet-Face! ...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:46 PM
Sep 2017

... nose-hair scissors a little too long? ...

... get all up in your itty-bitty "brain" did they? ...

Maven

(10,533 posts)
7. Todd is a perfect example of a mediocre white man who has failed up at his job
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:54 PM
Sep 2017

And gets way more credit for depth and insight than he deserves.

Incidentally, this goes hand-in-hand with both-sides-ism because the both-sides-ist must be someone who has nothing personally at stake in any political debate and therefore no “biases” that would prevent him from treating both sides equally. The both-sides-ist is also intellectually lazy or shallow enough to assume that all viewpoints have equal merit.

See also: Williams, Brian.

JDC

(11,111 posts)
8. F Chuck Todd. In a big way.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:02 PM
Sep 2017
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Chuckie is and always has been a
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:02 PM
Sep 2017

Republican mouth piece. Notice that lately,each time something goes side ways for the Republican Party,Chuckie will state something negative against the Democrats. Pretty obvious he gets his marching orders from Andy Lack and he loves the on air Talent to stir the pot without any evidence.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
11. Agreed!
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:09 PM
Sep 2017

BTW, I truly miss Paul Wellstone. Wasn't it strange how liberals in the government were dying in small plane crashes at that time?

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
12. Totally DISAGREE.There are no similarities between Holder and Sessions, except law degree
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:16 PM
Sep 2017
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Another BS Raw Story click bait headline
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:20 PM
Sep 2017

At no point in the discussion does Chuck Todd "blame Obama for US race problems" - that is just a lie.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Doesn't sound like Todd. Glad I responded that I'd want to hear
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:22 PM
Sep 2017

the whole discussion before judging.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
25. Personally I think rawstory should be listed as an unreliable LBN source
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 04:51 AM
Sep 2017

or for GD too actually. Half the time their stories are crap, the rest, they just reprint what a legitimate news operation has already published.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. I'd want to see the whole interview before judging. Context & complete statements...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:22 PM
Sep 2017

make a huge difference in discussions like this.

Todd is usually fair minded and clear. It's unclear to me what he meant by comparing Holder to Sessions, if that's what he did.

Stallion

(6,642 posts)
16. I listened to it earlier today-and also didn't draw the Same Conclusion as OP
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:28 PM
Sep 2017

part of the context was that white people don't understand the fear of being pulled over on the side of the road by a police officer for no reason and liberals may not understand the perspective that police officers face every day in doing their job

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. Thanks. Yeah...when something sounds off or too odd, I like to go to the source. nt
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:58 PM
Sep 2017
 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
17. Saw that
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:51 PM
Sep 2017

It was pretty f'n disgusting.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
19. Someone please bring Mr. Todd's ride around:
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:07 PM
Sep 2017


It's time he found a job appropriate for his skills.

Comparing Eric Holder to Jeff Sessions is simply unintelligent. Silly! He needs to go. NOW. Ka-Boom.

roscoeroscoe

(1,825 posts)
20. Ginger please
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:12 PM
Sep 2017

______ while black is all you can say about Holder. A good man

ffr

(23,398 posts)
21. This should not be LBN. It should be ignored on DU.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:50 PM
Sep 2017

It gives drama credit to CT, who must be desperate for ratings and will say anything to stir up controversy.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
23. It should be ignored
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:59 PM
Sep 2017

Raw Story is fabricating something that did not happen.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
22. This is a flat out fabrication and I don't like Chuck Toad
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:55 PM
Sep 2017

I saw that segment. Todd simply brought up something Holder once said. He never claimed he was doing the same thing as Sessions. Nor did he blame Obama for race issues.

Raw Story needs to go as a source. Half the time it's just repeating a link found elsewhere and the rest of the time it's click bait bullshit like this and using the same tactics as Drudge and Brietfart. NOW THAT is a comparison.

The sad thing is that 80 percent of this thread will now be just trashing Chuck Todd with a bunch of dittos and Yup! Yup He did that! without ever watching the segment for themselves and shitting their own credibility down the drain.

obnoxiousdrunk

(3,115 posts)
24. Pure BS from Raw story.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:12 PM
Sep 2017

get the red out

(14,031 posts)
26. False equivalency
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 05:05 AM
Sep 2017

EXACTLY how the media did their part in getting us into this living hell. Todd has always been especially egregious in this.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,207 posts)
27. Locking - the hosts feel this is opinion, rather than news
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 05:52 AM
Sep 2017

It's a commentary on what a talking head said on cable news, and is not a news event itself. Please repost in GD. Thanks.

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