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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:25 PM Sep 2017

Playboy founder Hugh Hefner has passed away at his home, The Playboy Mansion. He was 91 years old.

Source: David Ingles, Bloomberg TV

JUST IN: Playboy founder Hugh Hefner has passed away at his home, The Playboy Mansion. He was 91 years old (PR Newswire)


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Sad news. Hefner was an icon.
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Playboy founder Hugh Hefner has passed away at his home, The Playboy Mansion. He was 91 years old. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 OP
RIP, Hef. liberaltrucker Sep 2017 #1
Rip Hef... Grassy Knoll Sep 2017 #2
I only read that story...for the articles nt msongs Sep 2017 #3
And the cartoons joeybee12 Sep 2017 #43
helluva life.... dhill926 Sep 2017 #4
A good friend of mine worked for him at the old Playboy Club in Manhattan sandensea Sep 2017 #9
The Hollywood sign was saved back around 1978 or so... GReedDiamond Sep 2017 #71
Wait, didn't he sell the playboy mansion. I remember it being on sale not to long ago. briv1016 Sep 2017 #5
Yes he sold it but had the right to live in it until his death... PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #8
Before The Dotard Tries To Brag, This Woman Did A Bad Bad Thing... Grassy Knoll Sep 2017 #6
Did Trump supply it to her? LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #13
Isn't That How Rumors Get Started ? Grassy Knoll Sep 2017 #14
RIP Hefner LittleGirl Sep 2017 #7
Would it be inapropriate to wear a robe to work tommorow in his honor? briv1016 Sep 2017 #10
I feel sorry for the mortician. LudwigPastorius Sep 2017 #11
Or the lid closed on that coffin! n/t customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #29
Oh Hell, RobinA Sep 2017 #34
Amazing life LittleBlue Sep 2017 #12
What a thing to aspire to, living your life like a teenage boy's fantasy. DLevine Sep 2017 #35
Thank you for saying that. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #36
You're welcome, it needed to be said. nt DLevine Sep 2017 #37
He gave so much to the world and made it a better place. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #67
He gave Dick Gregory the money to find the bodies of three murdered civil rights leaders LittleBlue Sep 2017 #75
He was an awful human being who denigrated women and proudly stated DLevine Sep 2017 #78
"He did not see half the Earth's population as full human beings." LittleBlue Sep 2017 #84
"The notion that Playboy turns women into sex objects is ridiculous. Women are sex objects." DLevine Sep 2017 #85
Yeah, he helped y'all with your masculinity BallardWA Sep 2017 #15
Yeah, I remember when Gloria Steinem went undercover as a bunny TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #18
Yeah and stood up and used the mag for Civil Rights used the Jet Bengus81 Sep 2017 #33
That doesn't outweigh 60 years of portraying women as nothing more than a 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2017 #40
Agree 100% SharonClark Sep 2017 #72
This. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #49
Not so fast... 7wo7rees Sep 2017 #16
He wasn't. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #39
He did make his daughter Christine the CEO of playboy enterprise though. kimbutgar Sep 2017 #57
And Trump made his daughter queen of the White House. So what. SharonClark Sep 2017 #74
Sorry kimbutgar Sep 2017 #83
I met him twice Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #17
An icon of sexism. Good riddance. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2017 #19
Probable one of the few times in my life when saying... SeattleVet Sep 2017 #20
ha ha Baclava Sep 2017 #70
Thank you for the great humor and specially the truth. democratisphere Sep 2017 #76
Fuck! snort Sep 2017 #21
Hef should be buried "centerfold style." Folded over twice with a staple in his navel. nt TeamPooka Sep 2017 #22
I Wonder What Heaven Looks Like For Him? JimGinPA Sep 2017 #23
Perhaps a disappointment customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #28
Same as for everyone- nothing. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #61
Gonna be one hell of a funeral I would think. YOHABLO Sep 2017 #24
Hugh was good for women's rights. DippyDem Sep 2017 #25
That is some whack-ass bullshit right there. Codeine Sep 2017 #58
His motive was the benefit for men, though treestar Sep 2017 #63
WTF. Sexists don"t get to describe themselves as feminist. SharonClark Sep 2017 #73
What a life.. denbot Sep 2017 #26
Yes customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #27
Yeah, the objectification of women was just a big yawn to the big thinkers of the day. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2017 #42
He actually was if you listened to his interviews Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #56
R.I.P. BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #30
Zero f***s given... HopeAgain Sep 2017 #31
Can't wait to see the Trump tweet on this. milestogo Sep 2017 #32
RIP to a creative genius Politicub Sep 2017 #38
Fuck him. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2017 #41
why the bitterness? Demonaut Sep 2017 #44
I'm not bitter. I just despise a man who objectified women in a damaging way for a living. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2017 #47
Clearly, he wasnt a saint Politicub Sep 2017 #60
Pictures of nude women make one a creative genius? HopeAgain Sep 2017 #51
That isnt the entirety of him Politicub Sep 2017 #54
I had thought he was already dead -nt Bradical79 Sep 2017 #45
I saw a tv show where he was lamenting DorothyG Sep 2017 #46
You had fun. RIP. I enjoyed the Chicago Playboy Club back in the day. sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #48
Why anyone mourns someone who made his fortune commodifying human beings is beyond me. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #50
A revolutionary icon! yallerdawg Sep 2017 #52
He died on Hump Day! IronLionZion Sep 2017 #53
I liked the cartoons and jokes left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #55
Yeah, Chester the Molester was hilarious! TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #65
That was in Hustler... not Playboy. stlsaxman Sep 2017 #79
My bad n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #80
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Larry Flynt dies. Dr. Strange Sep 2017 #81
Elementary School Paper Drives were very interesting. nolabels Sep 2017 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #66
RIP to a great man. romanic Sep 2017 #62
Oh puke! smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #68
Hef and Trump had a lot in common LongTomH Sep 2017 #64
Do you want to know what I remember? smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #69
Agreed. Snackshack Sep 2017 #77
RIP, Hef. Owl Sep 2017 #82

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
4. helluva life....
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:36 PM
Sep 2017

apropos of nothing....he and my uncle were friends back in high school....Hef was instrumental in saving the Hollywood sign a few years back...

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
9. A good friend of mine worked for him at the old Playboy Club in Manhattan
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:52 PM
Sep 2017

This was in the late '60s and early '70s. He mentioned that while Hef was always gracious, he was also a consummate businessman and took customer satisfaction very seriously (as well as being a staunch Democrat).

My friend passed away last year at 73, as it happens. Hopefully they'll meet in that great Playboy Club in the sky.



GReedDiamond

(5,312 posts)
71. The Hollywood sign was saved back around 1978 or so...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:20 PM
Sep 2017

...one of the female singers in a band I was in back then in Hollywood was involved in the effort to save the sign.

Not sure what exactly she did, but she did pose with Hef in several photos.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
12. Amazing life
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:58 PM
Sep 2017

Lived his entire life like a teenage boy's fantasy and never gave up. He got 100 lives' worth of excitement and crazy in just one.

RIP

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
35. What a thing to aspire to, living your life like a teenage boy's fantasy.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:15 AM
Sep 2017

I'm grateful to the guys who actually grew up and tried to make a better life for all of us.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
67. He gave so much to the world and made it a better place.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:07 PM
Sep 2017


At least you would think so by reading most of the posts in this thread. The man was a selfish, hedonistic pig. He was a notch above Donald Trump, but not that much better.
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
75. He gave Dick Gregory the money to find the bodies of three murdered civil rights leaders
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 05:43 AM
Sep 2017
It was also Hefner who gave Gregory the funds to help locate the bodies of three slain Civil Rights workers in Mississippi in 1964.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hugh-hefner-gave-dick-gregory-his-big-break-1043953


What have you done in your grown up life to compare? Have the men you've known done anything like this?

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
78. He was an awful human being who denigrated women and proudly stated
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 06:20 AM
Sep 2017

that he saw us as nothing more than sexual objects. He made our lives more difficult by perpetuating the perception of women as existing primarily for the enjoyment of men. He treated the women who worked for him horribly. He did not see half the Earth's population as full human beings. If that's ok with you, then there's not much more I can say that will change your mind.

I would advise young men to aspire to be a man like Barack Obama. Maybe not be president, but be a man of class and integrity who truly respects women and loves his family.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
84. "He did not see half the Earth's population as full human beings."
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 01:29 PM
Sep 2017

Proof? Quotes? Or just feels?

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
85. "The notion that Playboy turns women into sex objects is ridiculous. Women are sex objects."
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 01:56 PM
Sep 2017

That was Hefner in a 2010 interview. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/01/hugh-hefner-women-are-sex_n_666493.html

If you see women as objects, you certainly can't see them as full human beings.

BallardWA

(97 posts)
15. Yeah, he helped y'all with your masculinity
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:13 AM
Sep 2017

and ruined a couple of generations of women. Rest in pieces, misogynist.
EOM.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,188 posts)
18. Yeah, I remember when Gloria Steinem went undercover as a bunny
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:28 AM
Sep 2017

at the NYC nightclub. She had to submit to a pelvic exam (by Playboy's doctor) and was tested for STDs.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,993 posts)
40. That doesn't outweigh 60 years of portraying women as nothing more than a
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:31 AM
Sep 2017

Collection of sexual body parts. His fortune was made by portraying women as just sexual playthings for men. If he supported abortion rights it wasn't because he was a feminist, it was because pregnancy interfered with men's sexual freedom too. To call him a feminist is beyond offensive and as backwards as it gets.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
16. Not so fast...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:18 AM
Sep 2017

If Hefner really was the champion of women’s rights he claims to be, it seems he might have hired a few more of them to write, not pose, for his magazine.

http://www.newsweek.com/hugh-hefner-hero-not-so-fast-74813

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
39. He wasn't.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:24 AM
Sep 2017

But saying so looked good in print and made a lot of guys who think like him feel better.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
17. I met him twice
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:25 AM
Sep 2017

I thought he would make my skin crawl but I quite liked him. He had a spooky good memory because the second time I met him he remembered exactly what I had said the first time we met.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
20. Probable one of the few times in my life when saying...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:50 AM
Sep 2017

"He's in a better place" would be totally inappropriate!

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
76. Thank you for the great humor and specially the truth.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 05:53 AM
Sep 2017

RIP High Heffner. You were always living the dream.

DippyDem

(659 posts)
25. Hugh was good for women's rights.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 03:33 AM
Sep 2017

"In the 1950s and '60s, there were still states that outlawed birth control, so I started funding court cases to challenge that. At the same time, I helped sponsor the lower-court cases that eventually led to Roe v. Wade. We were the amicus curiae in Roe v. Wade. I was a feminist before there was such a thing as feminism. That's a part of history very few people know."
Hugh Hefner

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
58. That is some whack-ass bullshit right there.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:54 AM
Sep 2017

He made millions reducing half the population to nothing more than an airbrushed collection of stylized body parts for a certain kind of man to jerk off to.

A real feminist giant, that one.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
27. Yes
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 04:16 AM
Sep 2017

there was the objectification of women, but between the girly shots, there were some thought provoking articles. I won't say I looked at it only for the articles (haven't picked one up in decades) but when I did read it, I found that it brought forth the leading thinkers of the day.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,993 posts)
42. Yeah, the objectification of women was just a big yawn to the big thinkers of the day.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:35 AM
Sep 2017

Meant nothing because Old Hef was such an intellectual.

Please.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
56. He actually was if you listened to his interviews
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:57 AM
Sep 2017

He really did see himself as a revolutionary against a Puritan America.

BumRushDaShow

(128,969 posts)
30. R.I.P.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:18 AM
Sep 2017

I know there are a couple generations who have no idea who he was and what a "Playboy Bunny" is. He created a "brand" and imagery that Drumpf still keeps trying to do for his own crap.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
31. Zero f***s given...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 06:39 AM
Sep 2017

You can't help create a rape culture that routinely objectified women and call yourself a feminist.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
60. Clearly, he wasnt a saint
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:25 PM
Sep 2017

And I guess it’s easy to reduce his life’s work to being that of a pornographer. He’s more complicated than that, IMHO. But what do I know?

DorothyG

(95 posts)
46. I saw a tv show where he was lamenting
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:00 AM
Sep 2017

that a prospective bunny or whatever they are called had breasts which were 'too natural.' He must have been into artificial materials.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
52. A revolutionary icon!
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:56 AM
Sep 2017

Between "Playboy" and "the pill," America changed forever.

Rest in peace, Hugh Hefner.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
59. Elementary School Paper Drives were very interesting.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:18 PM
Sep 2017

Back in the sixties students would go door to door asking for donations of old newspapers. Whatever classroom got the most donations piled up at the school won a prize. Turned out though that one of the houses down street had a bigger prize waiting for us boys. One of the houses had twenty or thirty different Playboy monthly issues stashed in between a big stack we picked up there. All of us boys in the neighborhood thought we hit the jackpot after that. It brought a whole new meaning to paper drives for us.

If you can look back and see your own foolishness you might be better for it

After going to Wiki and reading about him, it didn't sound like had that much of a good time, but more of an addictive personality he had to tend with.

Response to nolabels (Reply #59)

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
64. Hef and Trump had a lot in common
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 02:33 PM
Sep 2017

Both were alpha-male types who managed to create - and live in - their own fantasy worlds.

And, I would agree, both objectified women. Playboy, and its imitators: Penthouse and Hustler, turned the sexual revolution into one based on adolescent male fantasy.

I'm not certain, however, that Hefner and Playboy were entirely negative in their impact. The magazine had a tremendous impact on the culture of the time; I think we will be hearing more about that in the next few days as journalists and pundits analyze Hefner's influence.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
69. Do you want to know what I remember?
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:14 PM
Sep 2017

There was a short period in the 70's when my father subscribed to that magazine and I saw it in his bathroom. This was before I had any concept of what sexism or feminism was, but I remember as a little girl that I lowered my opinion of him in my eyes. I was confused and disgusted and I wasn't sure why, but that was how I felt.

I don't want any man telling me how I SHOULD have felt as a little girl, but even back then I knew that there was something about it that I didn't like.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
77. Agreed.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 05:59 AM
Sep 2017

He did a lot for civil rights. However most of the post here today about him had a dancing on his grave tone in the negative.

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