Trump: NFL owners are scared of their players
Source: Politico
By LOUIS NELSON 09/28/2017 07:17 AM EDT
NFL team owners are hesitant to stop their players from kneeling in protest during the national anthem because theyre afraid of their players, President Donald Trump said Wednesday, insisting that they should nonetheless ban the practice league-wide.
I have so many friends that are owners. And Theyre in a box. I mean, Ive spoken to a couple of them. They say, we are in a situation where we have to do something, Trump said in an interview with Fox Newss Fox & Friends that was taped Wednesday and aired Thursday morning. I think they're afraid of their players, you want to know the truth, and I think it's disgraceful. And theyve got to be tough and theyve got to be smart.
The presidents tirade against the NFL and its players who kneel during the national anthem a practice that started as a protest against racial inequality in the U.S. began last Friday at a rally in Alabama, where Trump asked the crowd, wouldnt you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now hes fired.
The remark, along with a flurry of tweets on the subject over the weekend, seemed only to spark more protest from NFL players. Even more players knelt during the anthem than before, while other teams stood on the sidelines with their arms interlocked in a show of unity. Three teams, the Tennessee Titans, Seattle Seahawks and Pittsburgh Steelers, opted to remain in their locker rooms during the anthem.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/28/trump-nfl-owners-controversy-243245
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)1. That announcing he thinks the owners are wimps helps him
2. That anyone is going to believe they're actually AFRAID of the players when they're the ones who write the checks
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)these billionaires can't stand up to black people, but I can.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)of standing shoulder to shoulder with the people who MADE them billionaires, does he? It must have really chapped his ass to see the white players, coaches and owners all taking a knee along with the black ones. He thinks this is a winning issue for him. He couldn't be more wrong. His base doesn't represent this country.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, I'm guessing it will play well with much of his base and he needs them to turn out in Virginia & NJ for the governor's races this year, as well as next year for Congress and Senate...
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fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)gopiscrap
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)it is more of A. Dugin's disrupt and destroy technique, whether trump knows it or not.
Looks like some 35,000, oopss now 50,000... on change.org are going after Ray Lewis..
Why change.org ?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/petition-seeks-removal-ray-lewis-statue-nfl-protest-50150868
janterry
(4,429 posts)You have 'associates' not friends
(to usurp a term the guys I worked with in prison liked to use)
Girard442
(6,065 posts)Just like working for Walmart.
randr
(12,409 posts)Similar to the one the lsos is in; be an American or be a fascist.
samnsara
(17,604 posts)..Russell Wilson.....or Richard Sherman. Beast Mode was kinda scary.....but in a good way
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)Richie Incognito is probably an asshole 24-7, but the rest of 'em? You don't build up a fan base by being a dick.
Zoonart
(11,832 posts)the owners are afraid that if they push back against the protest their players will walk out. They have a pretty strong union. i think that the resident is involved in union busting here, by threatening livelihood of players that protest.
Botany
(70,447 posts)"The NFL Kneel Thing" I am now convinced is part of a policy to get people
riled up over nothing because Russia wants to distract us w/non issues.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/lawmaker-russian-trolls-trying-to-sow-discord-in-nfl-kneeling-debate/2017/09/27/5f46dce0-a3b0-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html?utm_term=.cef7fcb22f03
Lawmaker: Russian trolls trying to sow discord in NFL kneeling debate
Russian Internet trolls are trying to gin up even more controversy over NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem, a senator said Wednesday warning that the United States should expect such divisive efforts to escalate in the next election.
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) made the assertion in a hearing with the heads of the FBI, Department of Homeland Security and the National Counterterrorism Center.
Russian trolls, he said, were cynically pushing both sides of the argument over whether players should take a knee at the playing of the national anthem before NFL games. Players have been doing so as a silent protest against police treatment of minorities, though critics including President Trump argue that doing so disrespects the American flag and members of the U.S. military.
We watched even this weekend, the Russians and their troll farms, and their Internet folks, start hash-tagging out take a knee and also hash-tagging out Boycott NFL, Lankford said.
The Russians goal, the lawmaker said, was to try to raise the noise level in America to try to make a big issue, an even bigger issue as theyre trying to just push divisiveness in the country. Weve continued to be able to see that. We will see that again in our election time.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Wake up, all (not you Botany)
Alexander Dugin.
Look him up.
Disrupt western democracy. Separate the usa from western europe and the oligarchs get all the money and putin gets latvia, lituania, estonia, belarus, ukraine, etc etc
finland?
Botany
(70,447 posts).... they have installed a dull witted puppit as POTUS which makes it very
hard to fight that war.
I might be crazy but I think that the attacks on our embassy in Havana and
our naval ships running into other have Russian fingerprints all over them.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Alexsander Dugin is the politcal theorist whose ideas and ethics are at the heart of Putinism. Surkov is Putin's political strategist and the evil genius behind the gaslighting.
Surkov's methods are well summed up in this article:https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150/#.kt9mbc96h
Here is an excerpt:
His aim is to undermine peoples perceptions of the world, so they never know what is really happening.
Surkov turned Russian politics into a bewildering, constantly changing piece of theater. He sponsored all kinds of groups, from neo-Nazi skinheads to liberal human rights groups. He even backed parties that were opposed to President Putin.
But the key thing was, that Surkov then let it be known that this was what he was doing, which meant that no one was sure what was real or fake. As one journalist put it: It is a strategy of power that keeps any opposition constantly confused.
A ceaseless shape-shifting that is unstoppable because it is undefinable. It is exactly what Surkov is alleged to have done in the Ukraine this year. In typical fashion, as the war began, Surkov published a short story about something he called non-linear war. A war where you never know what the enemy are really up to, or even who they are. The underlying aim, Surkov says, is not to win the war, but to use the conflict to create a constant state of destabilized perception, in order to manage and control.
Bannon and Trump deployed that strategy with aplomb throughout the primary. Because of the constant media focus on his campaign, Trump was able to bombard the airwaves with an unending stream of surreal falsehoods. At the same time, Bannon turned Breitbart News into a Trump Party organ and used it to disseminate further confusion. Independent of Trump and Bannon, a number of other fake news sites an improbable number of which happened to be headquartered in Macedonia inundated social media with inaccurate information. There is some evidence to suggest that Surkovs employer contributed to the process as well, using the website Wikileaks as a conduit.
Many of the stories promulgated by Trump, Bannon, and their allies such as Trumps claim that Sen. Ted Cruzs father was somehow involved in the Kennedy assassination were obviously false and easily debunked. But the sheer volume of these stories had their intended effect. When fake news becomes omnipresent, all news becomes suspect. Everything starts to look like a lie.
The relentless downpour of inaccurate or useless information can make people lose trust in even their own minds. It happened to Washington Post reporter Ben Terris during the election.
In March, Terris reported that he had seen Corey Lewandowski, then Trumps campaign manager, physically attack journalist Michelle Fields. The campaign lied about the incident and said nothing had happened. After days of being told his report had been wrong, Terris began to doubt what he had seen. Even when video was uncovered corroborating Terris report, the Trump campaign evaded the issue.
Trump gaslighted me, Fields later told Terris for an article about the incident. I worry now that hes gaslighting the country.
In a world where nothing is true, the only real choice available to voters is between competing fictions. Trump offered a particularly compelling set of fictions, but he also found various ways to telegraph that he knew what he was doing. Through irony, evasion, self-contradiction, and obviously ridiculous claims, he let his supporters in on the joke. If everything is a lie, then the man who makes his lies obvious is practicing a peculiar form of honesty.
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Dugin's (Bannon, too) vision of a racist and nationalistic global cabal, acheived by employing Surkov's methods... This is much larger than just this election, folks. We are already waist deep in WWIII. The nationalistic fascism sweeping across western democracies are the proxy-battles of this new evolution of warfare. Russia is already many years and several "invasions" (in both real and cyber space) ahead of the rest of us even realizing we are already at war. It is time to wake up! We have to throw off our oppressors here before we can hope to stem the tide of the war on the international stage. America is the linchpin to this global coup... If we fall, so will the rest of the West. However, if we can prevail against this global fascism and its domestic deplorables, then we may yet hold the light for the rest of the West and Europe to follow.
A war in the 21st century need not be fought on the battlefield, when it can be fought in the minds of the masses. The movements of armies, munitions, and media are but the weapons of perception on this new battlefield.
We are already at war, My Friends... The question is: Will we return fire before it is too late?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I had heard of Surkov and knew a little, this detail is enlightening..
THIS is what should be blasted from the rooftops..
We all get buried in the daily onslaught of details...which ALSO must be made known and defended against...
So many fronts.. like the siege of Leningrad, where do you put your defenders..?
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)They're the most skilled in the world at what they do, with all their important players being millionaires. The players have the real power in the relationship.
forgotmylogin
(7,520 posts)Even golf.
tanyev
(42,516 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)This moron never got past the fifth grade mentally. Does he really think the owners give a shit what he thinks about them? They didn't way back when he wanted to buy a team, and they don't now. HE thinks the name-calling will zing them because it would certainly zing HIM.
Somebody, please please impeach this horrible excuse of a 'man.'
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)keeping him from sending supplies and troops to help Americans in Puerto Rico.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)Americans are suffering & dying in Puerto Rico, and all he care about are kneeling NFL players.
FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)I guess that's what he wants, I don't know.
But when he tweets shit like this it makes you wonder.
Aviation Pro
(12,125 posts)...when was the last time you were invited into an owner's box, clown? There's that 2012 meet with your BFF, Kraft, in Foxboro with your pet hair flapping in the wind, but other than that it looks like you've been shunned by the club you desperately want to join.
riversedge
(70,077 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)It implies the players can't control themselves. Like all the cops who "feard for their lives" when the black man was running AWAY from them or lying on the ground.
Chemisse
(30,803 posts)Which the white base will embrace giddily.
I expect Trump also thinks he will bully the owners into doing his bidding by making them feel they look weak. That is the kind of thing that motivates Trump. Hopefully the owners are more mature.
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)it is GOP code for "Black men are dangerous and should be feared"
Also similar code for...
"Black NFL players will kill their owners in a blind, animal rage."
"NFL players are dangerous and should be feared."
"BLM marchers are dangerous and should be feared."
"Young, black men wearing hoodies are dangerous and should be feared."
Fear is one of the underlying reasons why cops shoot unarmed black males.
Trump is stoking the flames of that fear, like a good racist who made his way to
the highest seat in Washington DC.
The masters of the plantation can't allow much freedom, otherwise,
things could get ugly.
murielm99
(30,717 posts)Racism. We need to be afraid of big, black men. Could 45's racism be any more obvious?
I am worried about more incidents, more racial confrontations like Charlottesville and more police shootings. I am worried about some of these players being targeted, too.
Thanks a lot, 45. These bigoted people lived under rocks and we could control them before you came along and enabled them.
Mopar151
(9,974 posts)This is what happens when the nigras get uppity.....
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)Trump was going for the old "plantation uprising" theme.
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)Putin's orders.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Those owners are standing/kneeling with those players because those are their teammates!
Exactly as they should.
Any owner that wouldn't support his teammates shouldn't be owning any team; and will probably never know much success.
Trump is incapable of understanding the concept of solidarity.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)trumpft understand that.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)atreides1
(16,066 posts)4 deferments or was it 5?
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)Trump is afraid of the players.. So he assumes that all the owners are too.
BHDem53
(1,061 posts)A tough and smart leader wouldn't let that big scary ocean keep him from getting aid to American citizens in Puerto Rico.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)They are dumb enough to eat it up but we should ignore his reality show bullshit and focus on getting help to Puerto Rico.
NickB79
(19,224 posts)Like when we still had strong unions, and the fear of a strike kept management honest.
Not like how Trump spent his life pissing on subcontractors with no fear of repercussions.
They_Live
(3,224 posts)He does not understand respect, since he never has to use it, and has never felt it himself.