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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:41 PM Oct 2017

Republican senator calls health care, food, and shelter a privilege

Source: Talking Points Memo

When asked by a high school student in Wisconsin whether he considered health care a right or a privilege, Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) compared access to health care to access to food and shelter, arguing that all three should be considered “privileges” for those who can afford them.

“I think it’s probably more of a privilege,” Johnson said in response to the question. “Do you consider food a right? Do you consider clothing a right? Do you consider shelter a right? What we have as rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We have the right to freedom. Past that point, everything else is a limited resource that we have to use our opportunities given to us so that we can afford those things.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/ron-johnson-health-care-a-privilege-1d9fe371b55a/



This complete unadulterated asshole thinks eating and having health care should be a privilege, while this human being and her parents are paying for this asshole to have health care that he still wants to deny..............

Hey Ron Johnson....................GO F*CK YOURSELF and the horse you ride on

Hey WisCONsin, this asshole said this to a young person, think about that, he looked this human being in the eye and basically told her and everyone in that room, go f*ck yourself, everything should be a privilege

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Republican senator calls health care, food, and shelter a privilege (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2017 OP
We the People Xipe Totec Oct 2017 #1
I agree, but when a dangerous unqualified pinhead stands in front of a bunch turbinetree Oct 2017 #2
I should think the right to life includes the right to food, shelter and health care The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #3
The pukes not fooled Oct 2017 #9
Dats right lunasun Oct 2017 #34
Good catch not fooled Oct 2017 #36
Now that's a privilege not a right if you ask them lunasun Oct 2017 #37
Republicans believe that these rights Cold War Spook Oct 2017 #17
Right to guns (and to be shot) but not a right for health care? Oh, I see. The NRA SharonAnn Oct 2017 #39
Ask him the same question DeVos got at Harvard - about billionaire donors driving the GOP sharedvalues Oct 2017 #4
what was DeVos' response? Skittles Oct 2017 #16
Stammer talking point talking point sharedvalues Oct 2017 #21
He's honest and people need to hear his answer andym Oct 2017 #5
Only if Democrat lawmakers make a big deal of it and slam it home daily randr Oct 2017 #29
This is a real viewpoint held by conservative Christians. I was raised in this mindset. Coventina Oct 2017 #6
What would Jesus say? burrowowl Oct 2017 #7
I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of those freeloading infants. Girard442 Oct 2017 #8
and disabled folk Skittles Oct 2017 #14
Johnson parrots the standard right-wing mindfuck. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #10
And we, the citizens of the FORMERLY great state of Wisconsin chose this assclown over Russ Feingold Still In Wisconsin Oct 2017 #11
Was thinking same thing mdbl Oct 2017 #18
It's gerrymandering, the gift that keeps on giving FakeNoose Oct 2017 #19
Love Fair Districts PA sharedvalues Oct 2017 #25
Trump BARELY won. Better times coming. sharedvalues Oct 2017 #22
Yes they did. ellie Oct 2017 #30
NO sympathy for Wisconsin. FUCK Wisconsin! Still In Wisconsin Oct 2017 #32
Ok videohead5 Oct 2017 #12
Apparently.... SergeStorms Oct 2017 #13
GOP Congressmen are purchased by their billionaire donors sharedvalues Oct 2017 #24
I totally agree. SergeStorms Oct 2017 #38
"Freedom (TM)", the catch-all phrase that explains nothing. DetlefK Oct 2017 #15
A curse on him, his children and his grand-children. DinahMoeHum Oct 2017 #20
What an asshole. Nt raccoon Oct 2017 #23
In other words let Corporations change as much as they want...... Bengus81 Oct 2017 #26
The only opposition to this premise... CanSocDem Oct 2017 #27
Thought Republicans were firm believers in 'the right to life'. Oh, That's only sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #28
yep pertains to fetus fetish only dembotoz Oct 2017 #31
So shooter had right to gun More_Cowbell Oct 2017 #33
But a Gun is a Right, right? Loyd Oct 2017 #35
Poor little profiteer. moondust Oct 2017 #40

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. We the People
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:44 PM
Oct 2017

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States

Somehow, we tend to overlook that part about general welfare.

And by welfare I don't mean dole out money per-se, I mean make sure that people stay healthy and prosper.

The whole purpose of this union is to look out for each other and help each other out.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
2. I agree, but when a dangerous unqualified pinhead stands in front of a bunch
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:50 PM
Oct 2017

people and children and says what he says, then that is a huge problem, and the people of that state should be in his office, to fully explain, why he said what he said and challenge him

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
3. I should think the right to life includes the right to food, shelter and health care
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:51 PM
Oct 2017

since you'll die without those things.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
9. The pukes
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:52 AM
Oct 2017

are trying to con 'Muricans into thinking the most important thing in life is some abstract concept of "freedom". They sell "freedom" as the substitute for everything they don't want to make available--that they don't consider rights.

The little problem with their attempted con is that you aren't "free" if you don't have food, shelter, and health. FDR addressed this matter in his famous "Four Freedoms" speech.

But, to the 'Murican with a lousy job and no prospects in life, feeling "free" I guess makes up for all that has been taken away from us by shitty puke policies. Of course, the only real "freedom"said 'Murican has these days is to go buy an arsenal, I guess.





sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. Ask him the same question DeVos got at Harvard - about billionaire donors driving the GOP
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:58 PM
Oct 2017
Student: So, You’re a billionaire with lots and lots of investments, and the so-called “school choice” movement is a way to open the floodgates for corporate interests to make money off the backs of students. How much do you expect your net worth to increase as a result of your policy choices and what are your friends on Wall Street and in the business world—like the Koch brothers—saying about the potential to get rich off the backs of students?


In this case, ask Johnson "Many billionaires donate to your campaign and to GOP dark money funds that are used for congressional campaigns. How often do you go to policy conferences in which billionaires or their employees or donor networks are speaking or writing? How often do you read sources like the Federalist or Reason or white papers from the Cato or Heritage or Bradley foundation that are funded by GOP billionaires?"


We shouldn't be talking about Johnson's words, we should be talking about his underlying REASONS for saying those words.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
21. Stammer talking point talking point
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:37 AM
Oct 2017

Same old crap - instead of admitting her real goal is to destroy public schools to allow GOP brainwashing in religious schools, and to personally make money, she blamed unions and talked about "choice".

Anyway the questions are not about her, they're about the country recognizing the real goals of people like her and Johnson.

andym

(5,443 posts)
5. He's honest and people need to hear his answer
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:01 AM
Oct 2017

Perhaps it will really convince people of the difference between the GOPers and Democrats.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
6. This is a real viewpoint held by conservative Christians. I was raised in this mindset.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:09 AM
Oct 2017

There are no such things as "rights."

We only have privileges given to us by our authority figures.

I kid you not.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
8. I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of those freeloading infants.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:26 AM
Oct 2017

I mean, really, they don't do a lick of work and yet squall bloody murder if they're not waited on hand and foot.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
10. Johnson parrots the standard right-wing mindfuck.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:30 AM
Oct 2017

My experience with republicans is that they come from a subset of humanity that is psychopathic to varying degrees and low on emotions. They do, coincidentally, make good executors of capitalism under our current dog-eat-dog economic system.

What seems to be missing or in low supply in their personalities is the best of our emotional being: love, compassion, empathy, sympathy, belief in equality, gratitude, guilt, and remorse, just to name a few.

To make a statement that when a human is brought into life, that society holds no responsibility for that person is simply the face of that type personality., and we unfortunately have a mass gathering of those folks in the United States Congress.

They must be relegated to the minority where they belong.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
11. And we, the citizens of the FORMERLY great state of Wisconsin chose this assclown over Russ Feingold
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:31 AM
Oct 2017

TWICE!

Fuck Wisconsin and fuck approximately 55% of its voting populace. And I might add, I say this as someone who has lived 50 of my 52 years in what has now become a throbbing, deep red sore on the body politic of this country. I hate the Scott Walker-loving Trump-electing imbeciles who live here.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
18. Was thinking same thing
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:19 AM
Oct 2017

This from the state that also voted in total assholes like Paul Ryan. Since I live in GA, i have no right to claim superiority, but always thought states like Wisconsin would maintain some sensibility in politics and keep the country a little stabilized. Obviously, I was wrong.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
19. It's gerrymandering, the gift that keeps on giving
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:43 AM
Oct 2017

...to the right-wing a-holes that engineered it all.

I'm in Pennsylvania and we have the same problem. Congressional districts have been gerrymandered to death for the last 30 + years while Democrats didn't do a thing to stop it. Now we're seeing the results of their sneaky underhanded activities. It's how we got the GOP running our state legislature and it's how we ended up with a nasty right-wing Republican Senator (Toomey) last year.

Gerrymandering has to end in every state, and the time to start is now. Get ready for the next US Census in 2020. That's when they re-draw the districts, after each census. In Pennsylvania (and hopefully Wisconsin) the Dems won't be looking the other way next time. We'll be right on top of it.

Link: https://www.fairdistrictspa.com/

I don't have a link to the same thing in Wisconsin, but I'll bet there is one.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
25. Love Fair Districts PA
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:44 AM
Oct 2017

Keep up the good work!

Also look at The Turnout Project
Legit Action
Let America Vote
and End Citizens United.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
13. Apparently....
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:49 AM
Oct 2017

corporations see record profits every quarter a "right". Congressmen who serve as little as one term see their lifetime benefits as a "right". Wealthy Republican donors consider receiving record tax cuts as their "right".

SO STICK IT UP YOUR ASS, MR. RON JOHNSON! It would be my "privilege" to stick a cactus "right" up your ass!

What has happened to the people of Wisconsin? Why do they think this assclown is the best they can do? Is this what this country is coming down to? Is everyone in this damned country turning into racist, selfish, uncaring fuck-wits like Johnson and Trump?


I weep for our country.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
24. GOP Congressmen are purchased by their billionaire donors
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:43 AM
Oct 2017

They're owned by the Koches and their billionaire GOP donor friends - Adelson, Wynn, Mercer, DeVos, and with help from billionaires' foundations like Bradley, Olin.

We have to get money out of politics.
No revolving door out to lucrative GOP jobs after office. And no dark money. Power to the people not the billionaire.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
38. I totally agree.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:17 PM
Oct 2017

Campaign finance reform is a MUST for the next legitimate administration. This administration is as illegitimate as they come.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
15. "Freedom (TM)", the catch-all phrase that explains nothing.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:40 AM
Oct 2017

So you have freedom.
You are dying from gangrene, but you are free.
You are starving, but you are free.
You are freezing to death, but you are free.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
26. In other words let Corporations change as much as they want......
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:07 AM
Oct 2017

For food,utilities etc. You can't AFFORD them then you live under a bridge. The GOP way............

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
27. The only opposition to this premise...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:15 AM
Oct 2017


...that I ever saw, was Bernie Sanders talking about social democracy. In fact, most around here were quite willing to maintain the historic inequality of the Free Market. And in terms of 'health care', the consensus around here FAVOURS high priced medicine over low cost alternatives. I often wonder if Americans even want good health.



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moondust

(19,972 posts)
40. Poor little profiteer.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:49 AM
Oct 2017

Senator Ron "Privilege" Johnson haz a sad that he can't profit handsomely by charging you for the air you breathe and the sunshine that powers your water heater. Damn Teslas should be illegal!

He'd feel a lot better if all you beggars would just get more guns and shoot each other. He'll be glad to do whatever he can to help out on that.

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