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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:47 AM Oct 2017

House GOP set to approve bill that could make mass shootings deadlier

Source: Think Progress

As details emerge about the carnage at a Las Vegas country music concert, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, the House is set to move forward with a vote on a gun lobby-backed bill that would deregulate the sale of gun silencers, which make it harder to detect the origin of gunshots.

Gunman Stephen Paddock killed at least 50 people and injured hundreds more using what experts say sounded like an automatic weapon from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Witnesses described chaos on the ground, with concertgoers and law enforcement running in all directions, unclear about where the shots were coming from.

The scene echoes other recent mass shootings like the one in an Orlando night club in June 2016 which left 49 people dead and was previously the most deadly shooting in recent U.S. history. In the early chaos of these attacks, it’s often difficult for law enforcement and the general public to discern the original of gunshots and whether there could be more than one gunman. The use of silencers would make that even more difficult.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/gun-silencer-vote-a6d777b63eb0/



And the NRA and gun manufacturer lackeys in Congress are going to say what to this ?

Our "Thoughts and Prayers" are with the victims, really that is complete and absolute BS, your thoughts and prayers or to the fucking money that line your coffers for re-election based on a product that kills human beings and other life forms on this planet...............FUCK YOU

Your primary function assholes is to make society safe, and you have fucking failed, right along with open carry assholes, and states

FUCK YOU------------I am not SAFE






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House GOP set to approve bill that could make mass shootings deadlier (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2017 OP
republicans pissing on America's safety Achilleaze Oct 2017 #1
Murderers need a silencer to protect their delicate ears nt doc03 Oct 2017 #2
They could wear ear protection when shooting IronLionZion Oct 2017 #8
"Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims.......AYE" George II Oct 2017 #3
Splinter (blog) listed every GOP recipient of NRA money who tweeted "thoughts & prayers" FakeNoose Oct 2017 #18
It is shocking how cheaply They_Live Oct 2017 #21
A good guy with a gun could have prevented this. alfredo Oct 2017 #4
Nah... a good guy with a machine gun could have prevented this... wait!... Eyeball_Kid Oct 2017 #16
Automatic rifles are illegal NewDem17 Oct 2017 #20
Not exactly true reggaehead Oct 2017 #22
Still illegal if made after 1968 NewDem17 Oct 2017 #25
In some states you can buy kits to turn them into automatics, or in this case, a gat. alfredo Oct 2017 #26
49 more lost lives laid at the feet of the GOP Cryptoad Oct 2017 #5
"As always, are thoughts and prayers are with our owners, the NRA." Orrex Oct 2017 #6
The last time this bill was scheduled for a vote... Grins Oct 2017 #7
and critics say it is difficult to tell which direction gun fire is coming from with silencers in riversedge Oct 2017 #9
According to some reports, the House could vote on the bill as soon as this week, riversedge Oct 2017 #10
Toll free number to call Congress critters here: sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #11
Many cities locate shooters by triangulation on gunshot sounds. Kablooie Oct 2017 #12
I thought that there was a city that tested this, yagotme Oct 2017 #13
But if I can't buy a silencer SCantiGOP Oct 2017 #14
Even with what London has gone through of late....... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2017 #15
Ironically, silencers are completely unregulated in London NickB79 Oct 2017 #24
The NRA should change it's name to the NGMA red dog 1 Oct 2017 #17
Silencers aren't silent. NewDem17 Oct 2017 #19
NO NO NO !!! !! trueblue2007 Oct 2017 #23
FYI, no guns were harmed in the massacre. Thank God and the NRA alfredo Oct 2017 #27

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. republicans pissing on America's safety
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:56 AM
Oct 2017

Why don't the republicans stick to telling lies about climate change and russian collusion with Comrade Casino, their freaking Draft-Dodger-in-Chief?

IronLionZion

(45,532 posts)
8. They could wear ear protection when shooting
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:42 AM
Oct 2017

but they are thinking of the delicate ears of the people they are shooting. They are just being considerate of others.

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
18. Splinter (blog) listed every GOP recipient of NRA money who tweeted "thoughts & prayers"
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:35 PM
Oct 2017
http://splinternews.com/every-member-of-congress-who-took-money-from-the-nra-an-1819059582

Just thought you might find this enlightening. There might be a Democrat on the list, but I didn't see any.
I think it's time to outlaw the NRA and their campaign contributions.

Just sayin'

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
16. Nah... a good guy with a machine gun could have prevented this... wait!...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:54 PM
Oct 2017

We have a new NRA policy meme! A machine gun in every home makes for a safer America!

Now the NRA states will pass laws making it a penalty to NOT own an automatic weapon. Yup. We need millions of good guys with machine guns to protect the rest of us from the one BAD GUY with a machine gun. That'll fix everything.

Jeez. Killing people used to be so difficult. Now that it takes a minute or two to shoot off 700 rounds. Killing dozens and wounding hundreds is as easy as eating a wedge of blueberry pie and takes a tenth of the time.

 

NewDem17

(51 posts)
20. Automatic rifles are illegal
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:25 PM
Oct 2017

And have been for a while.

They would have to make it legal to own newly manufactured ones first.

reggaehead

(269 posts)
22. Not exactly true
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:12 AM
Oct 2017

Federally they are legal if you have the right license. In Nevada there are no laws or regulations against them.

 

NewDem17

(51 posts)
25. Still illegal if made after 1968
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:31 AM
Oct 2017

Yes you can buy a machine gun, but it's going to cost you and it requires you to register as the owner with the BATF.

No machine guns made after 1968 can be sold to civilians.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
5. 49 more lost lives laid at the feet of the GOP
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:21 AM
Oct 2017

We have to strictly regulate short and long guns that can fire more than 3 rounds of ammo.

WE must register all firearms,,, period! YOiu can't control anything that u dont know where it is and who owns it!

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
6. "As always, are thoughts and prayers are with our owners, the NRA."
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:22 AM
Oct 2017

"We must act quickly to protect the real victims in this and every shooting: the guns."

Grins

(7,231 posts)
7. The last time this bill was scheduled for a vote...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:40 AM
Oct 2017

....was just a couple hours after a lone gun fetishist started shooting Republicans at baseball practice. For some reason, they postponed that vote.

And here we are today..... The GOP certainly has a unique sense of timing for this kind of shit.

riversedge

(70,305 posts)
9. and critics say it is difficult to tell which direction gun fire is coming from with silencers in
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:50 AM
Oct 2017

use. Sure makes sense to me.

riversedge

(70,305 posts)
10. According to some reports, the House could vote on the bill as soon as this week,
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:54 AM
Oct 2017



..................The National Rifle Association’s top legislative priority this year has been to roll back the regulations on what they call noise suppressors. The gun lobby claims the restrictions are costly and unnecessary since silencers are rarely used to commit crimes.

Opponents, meanwhile, say the fact that silencers are rarely used to commit crimes means the regulation is working. They claim that deregulation would lead to more gun violence and to more death and injury when a mass shooting occurs.

David Chipman, senior policy advisor for Americans for Responsible Solutions and a former special agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, testified in September that the bill is an immense threat to public safety.

“Congress is promoting a bill that would make a [shooting] potentially even more dangerous by putting silencers in the hands of criminals, and making it difficult for people — including law enforcement officers — to identify the sound of gunshots and locate an active shooter,” he told Congress.

According to some reports, the House could vote on the bill as soon as this week, although it’s not yet on the official schedule. Democratic Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has said the GOP has the votes to pass it, although it could meet a filibuster in the Senate......................................

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
13. I thought that there was a city that tested this,
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

and found that "silenced" shots still register on the system. A "silencer" does not actually silence a weapon, just reduces the decibel level down to a level that doesn't harm hearing, like a car's muffler. And, a bullet that travels faster than the speed of sound, makes a loud "crack" as it goes by. The silencer has no effect on this, it is basically a sonic boom.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
14. But if I can't buy a silencer
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:37 PM
Oct 2017

I would have to use earplugs, and that obviously denies me and the NRA our Constitutional rights.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
15. Even with what London has gone through of late.......
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:46 PM
Oct 2017

I felt more safe on the streets of London at night, riding the Underground no matter the time of day, than on the streets of New York or Chicago during the day. Thzt is the God honest truth.

red dog 1

(27,856 posts)
17. The NRA should change it's name to the NGMA
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:39 PM
Oct 2017

The National Gun Manufacturers Association,

NRA leadership is not only completely out of touch with a majority of the American people on gun regulation; it's also out of touch with it's own members, a majority of which are in favor of closing the gun show loophole and requiring universal background checks for all gun sales.

NRA leadership should go back to hell where they came from!

 

NewDem17

(51 posts)
19. Silencers aren't silent.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

Not only do they only reduce noise db by around 20-28db they're actually a common staple in many European countries and required by law to own when hunting.

If you've been around them they're far from silent and can still cause hearing damage.

And again, many European nations require suppressors for hunting purposes and they're completely unregulated there.

trueblue2007

(17,239 posts)
23. NO NO NO !!! !!
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:34 AM
Oct 2017

NO NO NO !!! !! IF those poor people could not have heard the RAT tat tat of all those bullets, there could have been 300 dead and 1000 people injured. ..
WE DO NOT NEED SILENCERS ON GUNS !!!!

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