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Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:41 PM

U..S. Votes Against U.N. Ban On Death Penalty For Homosexuality

Source: Newnownext.com

A United Nations resolution banning the death penalty for homosexuality was opposed by a total of 13 countries in the U.N. Human Rights Council. While several were in Africa and the Middle East, the U.S. surprisingly voted against the measure, as well.

Fortunately the resolution passed on Friday anyway, with 27 countries voting for the measure.

"This is a monumental moment where the international community has publicly highlighted that these horrific laws simply must end, said Renato Sabbadini, director of The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA). It is unconscionable to think that there are hundreds of millions of people living in states where somebody may be executed simply because of whom they love.

Previous efforts by Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Russia to block or water down the resolution failed.

Read more: http://www.newnownext.com/u-s-votes-against-u-n-ban-on-death-penalty-for-homosexuality/10/2017/

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Reply U..S. Votes Against U.N. Ban On Death Penalty For Homosexuality (Original post)
sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 OP
muntrv Oct 2017 #1
Towlie Oct 2017 #30
Lokilooney Oct 2017 #33
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #2
LonePirate Oct 2017 #3
Plucketeer Oct 2017 #15
Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #4
shenmue Oct 2017 #5
smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #26
niyad Oct 2017 #6
Mendocino Oct 2017 #7
mountain grammy Oct 2017 #8
George II Oct 2017 #9
LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #13
raccoon Oct 2017 #29
George II Oct 2017 #31
raccoon Oct 2017 #32
vkkv Oct 2017 #10
IronLionZion Oct 2017 #11
sarcasmo Oct 2017 #12
Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #14
angrychair Oct 2017 #16
RussBLib Oct 2017 #17
left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #18
left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #19
keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #20
Wolf Frankula Oct 2017 #21
Calista241 Oct 2017 #22
NJCher Oct 2017 #24
Initech Oct 2017 #23
RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #25
whopis01 Oct 2017 #27
raccoon Oct 2017 #28
onenote Oct 2017 #34

Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:43 PM

1. We are run the the talibornagain.

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Response to muntrv (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:53 PM

30. Hold on! It's bad, but not as bad as it sounds.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/state-department-defends-us-vote-against-death-penalty-ban-at-the-un/article/2636429

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's team on Tuesday defended the decision to vote against a United Nations resolution calling for the "abolition of the death penalty," and said the language was an overly broad measure that is at odds with U.S. practice.

"The United States clearly has the death penalty, both at the state and the federal level; that is why we voted against this," State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters.

The broad resolution criticized the use of the death penalty in several cases, including its use to punish homosexual behavior. Nauert made it clear that the U.S. also opposes the death penalty in these cases, but said it had to oppose the measure in its entirety at the U.N.


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Response to Towlie (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:43 PM

33. Yeah, I was going to post something similar.

This bill apparently contained language condemning the execution of the mentally ill. It's long been US policy not to support anything overly critical of the death penalty, I suspect it wouldn't be much different under a Democratic administration where there would probably be an abstain vote like in 2014 UN's moratorium on the death penalty.

Face it, regardless of administration we are to much in love with our state sanctioned murder.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:50 PM

2. This is incredible. As in, hard to believe, even for Trumpistan.

The article gives no pretext that Republican Nikki Haley or Republican Rex Tillerson or RepubliCON Дональд Трамп (Donald Trump) might be using to attempt to explain / excuse their vote and policy.

Unconscionable.

LogCabin RepubliCONNED suckers: take note of what your party has come to stand for.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:54 PM

3. President Pence issued his orders to Haley and she obeyed like a loyal lap dog.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:52 PM

15. Trump, Pence, Ryan....

 

All serve to make me

I'd rather have the White House janitors take over. I'd trust them more even if I have no idea who they are!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:00 PM

4. This cant be true, tell me it isnt true.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:02 PM

5. Good grief

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:40 PM

26. That's my reaction exactly.

I can't believe this. It's another "Twilight Zone" moment for me. Why would we ever vote against such a ban? It's just evil!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:03 PM

6. there is no end, it seems, to the despicable crap coming out of this maladministration

(and let us remember that the US has STILL not ratified CEDAW--to end violence and discrimination against women)

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:07 PM

7. Besides the usual suspects,

I'm somewhat surprised of Japan, not of the US. Gods, guns and anti-gays run this myopic country.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:09 PM

8. Say what now?

I'm beyond belief.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:13 PM

9. I simply can't believe the US vote. When do we institute public stoning for adultery?

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Response to George II (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:20 PM

13. When Pence gets in?

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Response to George II (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:46 PM

29. If we do that, they would be hardly any adults left to stone the guilty parties in T

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Response to raccoon (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:57 PM

31. donnie would be first in line, EXCEPT......

....to many truly religious zealots only the woman commits adultery, the man is virtually guilt-free.

When was the last time any of us ever heard of a man in one of those countries being punished for adultery?

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:31 PM

32. True. Nt

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:14 PM

10. Imbeciles run this country now.. nt

 

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:15 PM

11. Was this a mistake?

Did Nikki Haley miss a lot of sleep from jet lag and hit the wrong button when she voted? Nazis would get her in round one. She should be smart enough to know she can't rise up by stepping on the heads of gay people.

I don't know any conservatives who want the death penalty for homosexuals, and I would steer clear of such people.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:17 PM

12. Idiocracy.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:22 PM

14. ASSHOLES

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:55 PM

16. Here is a link to the resolution

It did pass, despite objections. It is, unfortunately, non-binding which makes it even more ridiculous and insulting that we cannot even agree to such things in principle.
http://www.universal-rights.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/The-question-of-the-death-penalty.pdf

Objectively, I would state it has as much to do with the position of the resolution on the economic inequality of the application of the death penalty as well as its mention to prohibit the application of the death penalty to the handicap and those under 18.
I would also guess, given the current religious fervor of the US, that it also would like to leave the application for the death penalty for things like blasphemy open-ended as well.

Its disturbing and shocking but it has a lot more to do with right wing politics influence on our decisions than is specific to this administration as our record on this council was just as poor in the previous administration.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:03 PM

17. why?

There better be an explanation coming. A convincing one. But knowing this crowd of clowns.....

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:27 PM

18. When I read this headline, I thought ...

ARE YOU IFFIN KIDDING ME ?!?!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:30 PM

19. With a government like Trumps ...

It's OK to kill people for being gay? How can we be proud to be an American?

shame - shame - shame

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:01 PM

20. Still sweating - Dubya and Jeff Gannon

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:09 PM

21. We did what Saudi Arabia told us to do.

It's about the oil.

Wolf

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:13 PM

22. The headline is very confusing, i had to read it a couple times to understand what it was saying

But this is a travesty.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:33 PM

24. I had to read it 2x

also. It's kind of like a double negative.

Anytime one writes in the negative, it decreases comprehension by 35%.


Cher

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:20 PM

23. GOD DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!

Yes these motherfucking scumnbags have me so angry lately that I've been resorting to all caps.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:36 PM

25. Nimrodda Haley is garbage.

She actually thinks she should be President

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:42 PM

27. What the fuck?

This is evil.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:42 PM

28. OMFG! At first I read this incorrectly and thought this country have done the right thing.

At first I read this incorrectly and thought this country had done the right thing.

No such luck. This country is definitely going down the toilet.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:44 PM

34. The US is never going to vote for a UN resolution that calls for the abolition of the death penalty

It doesn't matter what else the resolution says. It could've included language saying that the UN salutes Donald Trump as a great humanitarian and the US would still vote against it.

Why: Because it includes language in which those signing it agree to call upon nations that haven't yet adopted a 1989 UN resolution urging the abolition of the death penalty to consider doing so. And one of those nations that hasn't signed onto that 1989 resolution: the good old USA, which has refused to adopt that resolution for nearly 30 years, in both Democratic administrations and Republican administrations.

It sucks. But it has little to do with anything else in the resolution and everything to do with the language about the 1989 resolution calling for abolition of the death penalty.

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