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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:54 PM Oct 2017

Las Vegas gunman bought most of his guns in the last year

Source: Los Angeles Times

The girlfriend of the gunman behind the massacre in Las Vegas was met by federal agents when she arrived in the U.S. on a late-night flight, and investigators hoped Wednesday that she will shed light on an attack whose motivation is still a mystery to law enforcement authorities.

As President Trump arrived in Las Vegas, officials have not found any clues “that would indicate the shooter’s ideology or motivation or really what compelled him to get there,” FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe told CNBC in a televised interview.

Regarding the motive of gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., “anything is possible, at this point we just don’t know,” McCabe said. “This is an individual who was not on our radar, or anyone’s radar, prior to this event.”

Meanwhile, a federal source told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday that although Paddock first began buying guns two decades ago, the majority of the 47 he owned had been purchased since October 2016.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las-vegas-shooting-20171004-story.html

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Las Vegas gunman bought most of his guns in the last year (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
There should be a notice to the ATF once you reach a certain number in a short period of time. Cattledog Oct 2017 #1
+1. I really believe there should be some limit on guns. Too many and one might be selling them, Hoyt Oct 2017 #6
Virginia passed a law in 1993 atreides1 Oct 2017 #8
Makes me wonder Mme. Defarge Oct 2017 #2
The Umpqua College shooting took place 2 years previous to that date. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #3
But what happened to the shooter Mme. Defarge Oct 2017 #4
Start of a new fiscal calendar. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #5
Laid off and retired can be the same thing greymattermom Oct 2017 #7
Frequent trading in your 401K raises alarms, but not frequently buying guns. rickford66 Oct 2017 #9
Uh, is there a reliable study backing that up? mpcamb Oct 2017 #24
About the 401K? My personal experience. rickford66 Oct 2017 #25
The subject of the article is about buying guns. Frequently buying guns IS a Risk Factor. mpcamb Oct 2017 #26
Laws to reduce mass killings - lark Oct 2017 #10
This is way too rational for our kleptocratic kakistrophic klusterf... pbmus Oct 2017 #13
All they care about are $$$$$$$. lark Oct 2017 #14
"No more than 1 gun purchase a year - period! This alone would save hundreds of lives each year." EX500rider Oct 2017 #15
Every mass murder has been preceeded by a flurry of gun purchases. lark Oct 2017 #29
Love this! iluvtennis Oct 2017 #16
Armour piercing bullets are illegal hack89 Oct 2017 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author lark Oct 2017 #28
Here's another... kimmylavin Oct 2017 #21
Good one! lark Oct 2017 #27
Most, if not all, hunting rifles can penetrate a vest. oneshooter Oct 2017 #22
see this is the kind of thing that should be flagged. barbtries Oct 2017 #11
This seems too carefully planned Mme. Defarge Oct 2017 #12
I agree. James Holmes the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter tried the psychotic break... iluvtennis Oct 2017 #18
Seems he knew the rules and didn't raise flags dembotoz Oct 2017 #19
Where did he get that money from? Initech Oct 2017 #20
Buy with Visa/MC? metalbot Oct 2017 #30
He's roasting nicely in Hell Just Yakov Oct 2017 #23
It is a nice thought, but no. Man_Bear_Pig Oct 2017 #31

Cattledog

(6,669 posts)
1. There should be a notice to the ATF once you reach a certain number in a short period of time.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 02:57 PM
Oct 2017
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. +1. I really believe there should be some limit on guns. Too many and one might be selling them,
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
Oct 2017

more likely to have them stolen, accumulating for a militia group, indicative of a sick person, or worse.

And, too many and you need to be checked on for all of the above.

Sorry, gun-humpers, but you are polluting society as surly as if you were burning crappy oil or trash.

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
8. Virginia passed a law in 1993
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:31 PM
Oct 2017

It limited the number of hand guns purchased to one per month. In 2012 The GOP-controlled Senate voted 21 to 19 to do away with the purchase limit, just days after the House passed its version of the bill. Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R), who voted for the cap as a delegate but vowed to lift it as a gubernatorial candidate, signed the legislation into law.

I doubt that the federal government would even try to pass a law like that, and it would end up in the courts for years!

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
3. The Umpqua College shooting took place 2 years previous to that date.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
Oct 2017

Can't find anything else.

Mme. Defarge

(9,053 posts)
4. But what happened to the shooter
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:16 PM
Oct 2017

on, or around, October 1, 2016 that might be of significance?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. Start of a new fiscal calendar.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:23 PM
Oct 2017

A popular timeframe for layoffs. I know he's retired now, but there may have been something in his past where he was laid off for budgetary reasons.

Kind of a stretch, but it's something that coincides with that date. Assuming further still there's a link to the date at all.

greymattermom

(5,808 posts)
7. Laid off and retired can be the same thing
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
Oct 2017

after a certain age. Maybe he didn't retire voluntarily.

rickford66

(6,094 posts)
25. About the 401K? My personal experience.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 09:28 PM
Oct 2017

Every time I make a change in my investment mix, I get a definite warning about the consequences of frequent changes. I know people who were making changes almost on a daily basis and had more strong warnings where they had to answer questions etc to continue. Go ahead and make several changes a month and see what happens. I personally thing it's a good idea to prevent people chasing the market.



edited to correct typo

mpcamb

(3,242 posts)
26. The subject of the article is about buying guns. Frequently buying guns IS a Risk Factor.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 09:32 PM
Oct 2017

I don't feel like I'm too far out on a limb saying that.

lark

(26,113 posts)
10. Laws to reduce mass killings -
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 03:57 PM
Oct 2017

1 - No device that turns guns into automatic weapons are legal. All devices on the market are illegal as of x date.
2 - Full background checks on all gun purchases, even gun shows.
3 - No more than 1 gun purchase a year - period! This alone would save hundreds of lives each year.
4 - No assault style weapons are legal for civilians to own. Anyone caught selling these will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
5 - No armour piercing bullets allowed to be sold, same punishment for all 5..

lark

(26,113 posts)
14. All they care about are $$$$$$$.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 04:42 PM
Oct 2017

Lives of actual working class people mean nothing to them.

EX500rider

(12,774 posts)
15. "No more than 1 gun purchase a year - period! This alone would save hundreds of lives each year."
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 04:44 PM
Oct 2017

How exactly would it save hundreds of lives?
You can only shoot one gun at a time and a magazine change takes about the same time as picking up another gun with a little practice.

lark

(26,113 posts)
29. Every mass murder has been preceeded by a flurry of gun purchases.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:40 AM
Oct 2017

It would stop that creating an instant arsenal. This would have to be planned over many years, and I doubt that would happen as much as these have been occurring absent that.

Response to hack89 (Reply #17)

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
22. Most, if not all, hunting rifles can penetrate a vest.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 09:06 PM
Oct 2017

So you propose to ban all hunting ammo?

Mme. Defarge

(9,053 posts)
12. This seems too carefully planned
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 04:09 PM
Oct 2017

to be the result of a psychotic break. More like an act of revenge. But on who’s behalf? His own? Or his girlfriend’s? What happened to him or his girlfriend a year ago that could have set his plans into motion?

iluvtennis

(21,527 posts)
18. I agree. James Holmes the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter tried the psychotic break...
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 05:11 PM
Oct 2017

defense. Didn't work. Like Paddock, Holmes planned everything in minute details. Holmes killed 12 people and maimed/injured 70+ others in his mass shooting. So glad Holmse didn't know about these devices that enables a semi automatic weapon to work like an fully automatic weapon or else all 200 something folks in that movie theater would have been killed.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
19. Seems he knew the rules and didn't raise flags
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

He gamed and outsmarted the system
Saw elsewhere he did same with gambling.
Would think outsmarting a casino would be harder...

Initech

(109,266 posts)
20. Where did he get that money from?
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

I can't imagine he made that much money gambling. And I can definitely bet that Go Fund Me wouldn't allow a collection to be taken up for that kind of fire power. And I don't think most gun stores that sell that kind of weaponry are the type that you would buy with a Visa or Mastercard. So where did he get that money from? Follow the money.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
30. Buy with Visa/MC?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:36 AM
Oct 2017

I'm not sure I follow. Most of his rifles would have cost $1000 or less at a gun store. I've never seen a gun store that didn't take MC/Visa.

I don't see why people find it astonishing that he'd have money. During OWS, the discussion was all about "the 1%". Well, yes, the 1% exists, and there are 3 million of them. "The 10%" also has a lot of cash, and there are 30 million of them.

 

Man_Bear_Pig

(89 posts)
31. It is a nice thought, but no.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 08:53 AM
Oct 2017

When we are born, we have no memories. People mistake the memories we make (the experiences that shape us) for this magical soul. Once the brain shuts down, that's it. There is nothing else; just like before birth.

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