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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:17 AM Oct 2017

Donald Trump has state visit to UK downgraded 'and will not be guest of the Queen'

Source: Independent

Donald Trump’s planned state visit to the UK in 2018 has been downgraded to a “working visit”, likely forming part of a multi-country tour, it has been reported.

It means the billionaire will not be a guest of the Queen, as was previously envisaged.

Theresa May’s offer of a state visit to the first-term President was greeted with the threat of mass protests by opponents.

Mr Trump’s visit will now take place without the glitz and pomp of a full state visit, the Evening Standard reported.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-state-visit-uk-no-queen-visit-working-downgrade-tour-us-president-latest-a7994356.html

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Donald Trump has state visit to UK downgraded 'and will not be guest of the Queen' (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 OP
tu tu DURHAM D Oct 2017 #1
Can't use the Queen's horse drawn carriage as he wanted left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #2
No. He will suck up to her, trying to prove that he's not the short-fingered vulgarian he is. DetlefK Oct 2017 #6
No he won't Sanity Claws Oct 2017 #36
And he won't be around in 2018. mpcamb Oct 2017 #67
NO MAGICAL HORSEY CARRIAGE RIDE FOR 45 forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #44
Britain needs to schedule elections right after the visit joeybee12 Oct 2017 #3
Prepare for tweets about how bad the QofE is leftofcool Oct 2017 #4
and her crown jewels are fake... CTyankee Oct 2017 #10
Terrible, the worst. Not even close to Queen Elizabeth I. A fake queen. This has got to burn: George II Oct 2017 #14
Oh, that second photo must be eating him alive! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #54
AND the queen *hugged* Michelle! nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #78
I keep forgetting how petite HRM is niyad Oct 2017 #57
Will he say that she isn't a 10 and that he didn't grab her by the ....? greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #25
C'mon, she's "not his style." maddiemom Oct 2017 #32
She looks great! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #33
I hope I look that good when I'm 91. Shit I just hope I can reach 91! George II Oct 2017 #56
Agree. maddiemom Oct 2017 #88
Maddiemom, Keith Richards looks way better than Trump jmowreader Oct 2017 #74
Snap!! sarge43 Oct 2017 #86
Compare Jerry Brown (California) maddiemom Oct 2017 #89
And how Buckingham Palace is such a dump... nt Rollo Oct 2017 #66
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #5
Oh, that would be so rad: The Queen telling him about her time in the RAF. DetlefK Oct 2017 #11
by evading STDs barbtries Oct 2017 #16
Army (ATS), not RAF sarge43 Oct 2017 #27
Oh, to be a fly on the wall not fooled Oct 2017 #72
Father, husband, son and... Myrddin Oct 2017 #77
Amd, Harry was in Iraq obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #83
And were HIS kids expected to put their time in to national service? maddiemom Oct 2017 #35
Nursing the largest bone spur ever imagined. ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #55
You've seen those "Let me tell you about my grandchildren" bumper stickers jmowreader Oct 2017 #75
My apologies to Prince Harry sarge43 Oct 2017 #85
Royals are raised based on service to the country. Turbineguy Oct 2017 #7
Not a Big Fan of Liz Loyd Oct 2017 #8
Darn Trump will have to hobnob with the peasants. gordianot Oct 2017 #9
Yes. They should book the younger royals out of country during that time and let hlthe2b Oct 2017 #13
Americans should do all they can to point out Obama got a State visit. gordianot Oct 2017 #17
I'm about to fire off some Obama state visit tweets. bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #24
Be sure to mention that President Obama sarge43 Oct 2017 #39
and didn't POTUS refuse the carriage ride, etc., because it would put too much strain on niyad Oct 2017 #58
Haven't heard that, but doesn't surprise me. sarge43 Oct 2017 #63
exactly!!!!! niyad Oct 2017 #90
And Michelle got a big from QE! nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #79
I suspect Pete Souza brer cat Oct 2017 #60
I predict that neither Theresa May nor Trump will be at that meeting.... Pachamama Oct 2017 #12
If the gods smile on us... Hekate Oct 2017 #61
and now he'll probably pout and refuse to go at all. barbtries Oct 2017 #15
Maybe even threaten NUKES, as only choice of reponse? maddiemom Oct 2017 #37
he'll get the royal treatment of protests onetexan Oct 2017 #18
They actually plan to moon him when/if he comes. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #80
LOL they did that in Chicago earlier this year onetexan Oct 2017 #84
We will not suffer that fucking moron! Major Nikon Oct 2017 #19
Awww too bad! edbermac Oct 2017 #20
No carriage ride for trump Gothmog Oct 2017 #21
It won't need disinfecting afterwards. keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #23
You are not kidding Gothmog Oct 2017 #50
Harry already took one for the team when... 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #22
I have this vision of him saying something to William +/or Harry about their late mother... Princess Turandot Oct 2017 #26
Oh, please.... maddiemom Oct 2017 #38
"What could possibly go wrong?" sarge43 Oct 2017 #64
You know he would say something to William and Harry about their Mother. Demtexan Oct 2017 #71
Love this news..... a kennedy Oct 2017 #28
More like a visit from the neighbour you can 't stand. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2017 #29
Britain slaps back at orange assface. lark Oct 2017 #30
tared and feathered madokie Oct 2017 #31
I would be OK with that as well. lark Oct 2017 #46
the tRump brand is history madokie Oct 2017 #53
Good, but I'd still love to be a fly on the wall while Prince Philip addressed Trump. Solly Mack Oct 2017 #34
Yup. There isn't enough popcorn in the world to cover that show. n/t sarge43 Oct 2017 #41
Can't be sure they wouldn't find common ground bashing immigrants and POC. Hortensis Oct 2017 #91
I'm very glad to hear it. Her Majesty doesn't deserve to have this monster inflicted on her. Glorfindel Oct 2017 #40
Good, they won't scare the horses now. Doreen Oct 2017 #42
Another win!!!! Grins Oct 2017 #43
Remember what W's people did to the Queen's gardens? KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #45
Hopefully he cancels when he learns no golden carriage ride. lark Oct 2017 #48
I hope they limit him to the airport property. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #51
...she doesn't have a Moron-to-English translator on staff. Raster Oct 2017 #49
Wouldnt be surprised if the Brit press have a heyday with dotard. Enoki33 Oct 2017 #47
Maybe if he hadn't blabbed about wanting to nail Princess Diana . . . Vinca Oct 2017 #52
The Brits have centuries of protocol to work w/. No way was he getting a golden carriage ride w/ HRH Hekate Oct 2017 #59
... LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #62
Queen Elizabeth is no doubt relieved she won't have to wear a chastity belt... Rollo Oct 2017 #65
Well, that's going to leave a mark. n/t Hugin Oct 2017 #68
Good! LeftishBrit Oct 2017 #69
Minister of Silly Walks to officially greet Trump upon arrival Kaleva Oct 2017 #70
LOL! Sounds about right... Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #76
A Royal Snub? dflprincess Oct 2017 #73
Ha Ha... Mike Nelson Oct 2017 #81
We should have a LOL thingy to like a post............... raven mad Oct 2017 #82
there goes his carriage ride..... samnsara Oct 2017 #87
 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
6. No. He will suck up to her, trying to prove that he's not the short-fingered vulgarian he is.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:26 AM
Oct 2017

Sanity Claws

(22,408 posts)
36. No he won't
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:47 AM
Oct 2017

He has no idea of how a person is supposed to act. He has no understanding of the model that he would have to use.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
3. Britain needs to schedule elections right after the visit
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:23 AM
Oct 2017

Right when the image of the worthless May and the worthless trumpenfuhrer are grinning like idiots together.

Not sure how that works but I'd love to see them do this. I think the worthless May has to be the one calling for elections

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Terrible, the worst. Not even close to Queen Elizabeth I. A fake queen. This has got to burn:
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017


Or this:

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
54. Oh, that second photo must be eating him alive!
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 01:13 PM
Oct 2017

They both look happy and fantastic. I hope Trump sees this photo in his nightmares over and over again.

maddiemom

(5,179 posts)
89. Compare Jerry Brown (California)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:08 AM
Oct 2017

Nearly a decade older than Trump, and secure enough to let his hair go.

obamanut2012

(29,357 posts)
5. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:25 AM
Oct 2017

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Her Majesty has dedicated her life to public duty AND is a war veteran, unlike Dolt .45.

 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
11. Oh, that would be so rad: The Queen telling him about her time in the RAF.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:29 AM
Oct 2017

IIRC she was a mechanic there. And how did Trump serve his country during war-time?

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
27. Army (ATS), not RAF
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:20 AM
Oct 2017

Driver. Military drivers are trained to do routine mechanical tasks.

She'd also have strategically placed photos in the room of her father, husband and son, all who actively served in a war zone.

She was trained to deal with buffoons and idiot PMs by mom, grandmother and Winston Churchill.

I can well imagine she told May (in a lady like way) that there was no way she'd be in the same room with that vulgarian. "You invited him; he's all yours. I'm too old for ..."

not fooled

(6,671 posts)
72. Oh, to be a fly on the wall
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:58 PM
Oct 2017

when the Queen and Prince Phillip were discussing dolt's proposed visit. Neither suffers fools gladly.

maddiemom

(5,179 posts)
35. And were HIS kids expected to put their time in to national service?
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:46 AM
Oct 2017

I know, no POTUS' kids have been expected to do so, but most did, up through Vietnam.

jmowreader

(53,167 posts)
75. You've seen those "Let me tell you about my grandchildren" bumper stickers
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:29 AM
Oct 2017

The Queen would LOVE to tell Two Scoops about her grandson Harry.

You know, THIS grandson Harry:



Turbineguy

(40,040 posts)
7. Royals are raised based on service to the country.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:26 AM
Oct 2017

But clearly, there's a limit on just how much shit you have to eat and Trump is well over that line.

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
9. Darn Trump will have to hobnob with the peasants.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:26 AM
Oct 2017

I seem to remember an American President not that long ago who got along and still has a good relationship with younger members of the British Royal family. I hope they stay away from Trump when he is in the UK.

hlthe2b

(113,857 posts)
13. Yes. They should book the younger royals out of country during that time and let
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:32 AM
Oct 2017

Last edited Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:08 AM - Edit history (1)

the beleaguered Charles and Camilla deal with him, if anyone... Charles is accustomed to such buffoons (and perhaps it would be his final penance for Diana).

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
17. Americans should do all they can to point out Obama got a State visit.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:54 AM
Oct 2017

Trump easily gets his buttons punched and out of caution many opponents appear to me to use satire and comedy to poke him.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
39. Be sure to mention that President Obama
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:55 AM
Oct 2017

is the only US president to speak to the British Parliament at Westminster Hall - an honor shared only by a pope, monarchs and heroes.



There is no time/space continuum where Moron could receive this honor and give that thoughtful speech.

niyad

(132,255 posts)
58. and didn't POTUS refuse the carriage ride, etc., because it would put too much strain on
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 01:45 PM
Oct 2017

the security teams?

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
63. Haven't heard that, but doesn't surprise me.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:17 PM
Oct 2017

There's been a couple of news articles about how the agents respected the Obamas. They were kind, considerate and appreciative. In other words the Obamas.

Pachamama

(17,563 posts)
12. I predict that neither Theresa May nor Trump will be at that meeting....
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:30 AM
Oct 2017

Their replacements will either meet or no meeting at all and completely canceled....

Bookmark this one....

barbtries

(31,301 posts)
15. and now he'll probably pout and refuse to go at all.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:50 AM
Oct 2017

and make nasty tweets at the queen and people of the UK

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
18. he'll get the royal treatment of protests
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:55 AM
Oct 2017

from the good people of England. I hope they come out in droves

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
84. LOL they did that in Chicago earlier this year
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:15 AM
Oct 2017
http://abc7chicago.com/news/mass-mooning-planned-at-chicagos-trump-tower/1736784/

another mass mooning, this time in the UK

The British are notorious for their witty sarcasm. I can't wait to see pix of the crowd with their clever signs. I'm sure there will be some butt signs in full display like the event in Chicago

3catwoman3

(29,355 posts)
22. Harry already took one for the team when...
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:08 AM
Oct 2017

...he had to stand next to Melania. That should be enough.

Princess Turandot

(4,916 posts)
26. I have this vision of him saying something to William +/or Harry about their late mother...
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:20 AM
Oct 2017

...like, how her untimely death was a shame because he didn't get a chance to 'date' her, which he would had done, even though she was, in his discerning opinion, 'crazy' (as he told Howard Stern a month or so after Diana died). Or suggesting that his spawn can tell them where to murder the best defenseless animals in Africa, (which they probably know about, given that they both are involved in wildlife conservation efforts).

Or 'schooling' Prince Charles on climate change: 'Believe me. It's fake news, Chuck. You ever hear of that: fake news? I discovered it.'

What could possibly go wrong?

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
64. "What could possibly go wrong?"
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:29 PM
Oct 2017

Harry going Game of Thrones on Dolt's ass? William holding his coat?

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
71. You know he would say something to William and Harry about their Mother.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 07:09 PM
Oct 2017

I would hope Harry would pop the old fool in the mouth.

Maybe William has to hold back but Harry does not.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,212 posts)
29. More like a visit from the neighbour you can 't stand.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

He's an asshole, but there are other people around...and he brought beer. Guess you have to let him in.

lark

(26,073 posts)
30. Britain slaps back at orange assface.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:29 AM
Oct 2017

They couldn't stop him from coming, but could make it where he gets no personal glory and glitz, doesn't ride in the royal carriage for even a minute, makes no speeches at Parliament, is shoved into dark rooms and ignored. Wish I could talk them into what he truly deserves, a public spanking and shaming.

lark

(26,073 posts)
46. I would be OK with that as well.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:13 PM
Oct 2017

As long as he, and his children, could not step back into the WH afterwards.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
53. the tRump brand is history
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:40 PM
Oct 2017

they'll not be able to recover from this mistake

too many people know what kind of people they are, whether they admit it to themselves or not they know. That 'knowing' is a stopper for the tRump brand

Solly Mack

(96,926 posts)
34. Good, but I'd still love to be a fly on the wall while Prince Philip addressed Trump.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:45 AM
Oct 2017

He's 96 now but I'd wager his tongue is still sharp.

Prince Philip and the bloated, bloviating upstart. LMAO just thinking about it.

Trump would want Ivanka with him because he thinks she gives him a measure of class.

I'm certain the Prince would disabuse that notion in short order. The hilarious part would be in knowing that neither the father nor the daughter possess the self-awareness to know they would be the Prince's entertainment.

The Trumps would brag about the warm reception all the while feeling just a tad bit uncertain. Each word out of Prince Philip's mouth met with a moment of hesitation, promptly followed by a nod and a smile (because the Prince is delightful and clever and how smart they are to be in on the fun).

All the while merriment and mirth dances across the face of the Prince. His eyes twinkle. He enjoys his prey to the fullest.

The Queen would be polite, but the kind of polite that isn't polite at all. Mere formality, not even civil, really - habit. Where your visitor is nothing more than duty - an unpleasant one at that - but demands of office must be carried out. You speak as little as possible, but always mindful to say the right things. Bored perfunctory.


Yes, I know Prince Philip is known for being an ass - but I'd still enjoy his being an ass to the Trumps.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
91. Can't be sure they wouldn't find common ground bashing immigrants and POC.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:34 PM
Oct 2017

If the prince's wife weren't there to keep him in line, of course.

The whole thing is a disgrace to our nation, but I'm glad she is setting a very needed standard even if it currently above our reach. And it also means she won't be subjected to trump, so good for that.

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
40. I'm very glad to hear it. Her Majesty doesn't deserve to have this monster inflicted on her.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:07 AM
Oct 2017

Rule Britannia!

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
42. Good, they won't scare the horses now.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:36 AM
Oct 2017

I was worried about the horses because animals sense evil and tend to get freaked out when near it.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,781 posts)
45. Remember what W's people did to the Queen's gardens?
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:12 PM
Oct 2017

King Dolt's kids would do far worse and she knows it. Plus, she doesn't have a Moron-to-English translator on staff.

This is fantastic news. Get out the popcorn, 'cause he's gonna hit the roof over this one.

lark

(26,073 posts)
48. Hopefully he cancels when he learns no golden carriage ride.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:16 PM
Oct 2017

He'd be doing the British and American taxpayers a big solid, which means he probably won't.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,781 posts)
51. I hope they limit him to the airport property.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:27 PM
Oct 2017

We don't need any more international embarrassments by this tower trash.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
59. The Brits have centuries of protocol to work w/. No way was he getting a golden carriage ride w/ HRH
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:02 PM
Oct 2017

No way in hell.

LeftishBrit

(41,453 posts)
69. Good!
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 05:49 PM
Oct 2017

We would have been lining the streets to tell him to go home.

Though in the UK 'being a guest of Her Majesty' is a common euphemism for being in prison: that might be more suitable for him!

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
81. Ha Ha...
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:07 AM
Oct 2017

...I'd like to downgrade our odd fixation with British Royalty, but love this because it's going to bother Trump; he loves that kind of stuff.


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