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Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:08 PM

Judge refuses to dismiss corruption charges against Menendez

Source: The Hill

Judge William Walls on Monday said he won't dismiss any of the 18 charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), The Associated Press reported.

Prosecutors in the federal corruption case against Menendez and his co-defendant, Salomon Melgen, rested their case last week, capping off 18 days of testimony from 35 witnesses.

Menendez pleaded not guilty to charges that he accepted campaign donations, lavish gifts and vacations from Melgen, a Florida-based eye doctor, in return for the senator using his influence to benefit Melgen both personally and financially.

Prosecutors claimed during the trial that the senator had "sold his office for a lifestyle he couldn’t afford."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/355650-judge-refuses-to-dismiss-corruption-charges-against-dem-senator

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Reply Judge refuses to dismiss corruption charges against Menendez (Original post)
Jose Garcia Oct 2017 OP
Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #1
Jose Garcia Oct 2017 #2
karynnj Oct 2017 #5
awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #3
karynnj Oct 2017 #6
nitpicker Oct 2017 #8
Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #4
karynnj Oct 2017 #7

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:09 PM

1. Is he guilty? If he is he has to go, period.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:11 PM

2. A conviction will almost certainly trigger a move for expulsion if he won't quit

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:11 PM

5. That is agreed, but that is what the trial will determine

Not to mention, if this jury finds him guilty, he will appeal. Various convictions on similar charges were called into question when the conviction of Governor McDonnell of Virginia was overturned. One person who benefited was Sheldon Silver, NY assembly member.

If - and its a big if - he is convicted, he will NOT step down immediately because he is entitled to appeal. This is good because if he were to step down before January, Christie would name a Republican for the seat -- even if Phil Murphy wins the November election. If he is found guilty and loses all his appeals, it is very likely that would happen after the new Governor is in office. I expect that if he loses -- there will be a HUGE outcry for him to step down IMMEDIATELY. If Murphy wins the November election - or if that verdict comes before the November election, EVERY Democrat NEEDS to argue that we need to wait until all appeals are done. Seriously, the Republicans can say that a President in his last year should not get to name a Supreme Court Justice - a Governor, whose party has lost and who has the lowest approval rating of any governor should not name a Senator.

Now, if he is either not convicted or he wins an appeal, NJ Democrats are likely to push him NOT to stand for reelection in 2018. If he opts to run, I suspect he will lose a primary badly. I canvassed for him in Morris County in 2006 when he ran after being appointed by Corzine in 2005. Even in Dover, with a large Hispanic population and in very Democratic Morristown, there was very little excitement for him. (Corzine should have appointed someone like Russ Holt, who would not have been an embarrassment to the state even before he was indicted. He blocked the Obama EPA appointees because he was angry with the Cuba policy and he was as bad as any right winger on the Iran deal. )

Either way by the end of January 2019 - he will almost certainly not be a Senator.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:15 PM

3. Does the new Governor get to appoint his replacement?

It's not right to be corrupt obviously.......but I'd rather have a corrupt Dem than a corrupt russiablican.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:09 PM

6. There is an election for Governor in November 2017 that the Democrat is favored to win.

If Menendez is found guilty, EVERY Democrat needs to argue that he should be able to hold the seat until he exhausts his appeals. Seriously, It is very likely that there will be a Democratic governor by mid January. It is unlikely that the case would have gone through all appeals before then.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 17, 2017, 04:16 AM

8. THat may be why Menendez is dragging his heels

Instead of resigning.

FWIW, Murphy (as of 13 Oct) was leading his opponent 51-33.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:36 PM

4. He should have left a long time ago.

Anyone who didn't see this coming is a fool. When the vey rich curry your favor they generally expect something in return. The red flags were everywhere. Certainly, opthalmologists make serious money and most of it comes from medicare, but not the kind of money for private jets and multimillion dollar mansions. He should have smelled a rat. We really don't need the baggage. Even if the jury doesn't find a quid pro quo, he needs to go and pronto.

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Response to Scruffy1 (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:10 PM

7. Me thinks he benefited as well as the opthamologist. nt

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