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Discussionist KING

(34 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:00 AM Oct 2017

Sanders: It is 'highly inappropriate' to debate Kelly

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NH Ethylene (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)White House press secretary Sarah Sanders defended White House chief of staff John Kelly Friday after he made erroneous claims about a Democratic congresswoman the day before.

Sanders told reporters it was "highly inappropriate" to debate the chief of staff over his statement, given that he is a retired four-star Marine general.

"If you want to go after General Kelly, that is up to you," she said. "If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that is something highly inappropriate."

Kelly erroneously claimed Thursday that Rep. Frederica Wilson, a Florida Democrat, had taken credit for funding a new FBI building in Miami. Kelly's comment, which was meant to defend President Donald Trump's condolence call that upset the family of a fallen solider, was disproved by a video of Wilson's speech.

After her comments about the propriety of contesting Kelly's statements caused a stir, Sanders said in an email comment to CNN: "Of course everyone can be questioned. But after witnessing General Kelly's heartfelt and somber account, we should all be able to agree that impugning his credibility on how best to honor fallen heroes is not appropriate."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/20/politics/white-house-sarah-sanders-john-kelly-highly-inappropriate/index.html



As I try to understand Sanders' logic here, it appears she believes that if a general gives a "heartfelt and somber account" - regardless of whether he's speaking the truth - it's not appropriate to question him.

"ACTING!" as John Lovitz used to declare.

For the most part, I like Gen. Kelly. But honor dictates he apologize for his slander of Rep. Wilson.

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Sanders: It is 'highly inappropriate' to debate Kelly (Original Post) Discussionist KING Oct 2017 OP
Gen. Kelly is a racist. He simply could not contain the revulsion he felt towards Rep. Wilson. PubliusEnigma Oct 2017 #1
As of today, the USA is not a military dictatorship. Gen. Kelly injected himself into the debate. NCjack Oct 2017 #2
As of today it looks like we are a military dictatorship. :( Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #5
Why do you think conservatives need "safe spaces?" They take great offence at being asked honest Discussionist KING Oct 2017 #6
I don't think that conservatives need "save spaces". When Gen. Kelly stepped NCjack Oct 2017 #9
I told you that freakin' Bernie wasn't a Democrat! yallerdawg Oct 2017 #3
USE MRS HUCKABEE NAME IN HEADLINES PLEASE. DU ALLOWS YOU TO ADD CLARITY TO LBN headines Sunlei Oct 2017 #4
Thanks for your input, but I'll pass on that request. Discussionist KING Oct 2017 #7
Thanks to CNN FOR HEADLINE that's EASY for headline reader only DOTARDS to misunderstand Sunlei Oct 2017 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #12
The search function canetoad Oct 2017 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #15
Who cares? canetoad Oct 2017 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #19
You're welcome. nt canetoad Oct 2017 #21
I second the motion. yurbud Oct 2017 #8
Thank you, Bud Sunlei Oct 2017 #11
I almost wonder if that's why Trump hired her. yurbud Oct 2017 #17
good point, you're probably right. or he hired her because shes not "grab worthy" in his book. Sunlei Oct 2017 #22
You know what's "inappropriate"? Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #13
Can you add (Sarah) in parenthesis to the title so that I would not think it is Bernie? (nt) question everything Oct 2017 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #20
I told you the DU owner said YOU CAN clarify BNheadlines LIKE THIS (SARAH HUCKABEE) Sunlei Oct 2017 #23
No danger of misconstruing ucrdem Oct 2017 #24
Locking Chemisse Oct 2017 #25

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
1. Gen. Kelly is a racist. He simply could not contain the revulsion he felt towards Rep. Wilson.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:04 AM
Oct 2017

He twisted the facts to match his instinctive reaction to her very presence.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
2. As of today, the USA is not a military dictatorship. Gen. Kelly injected himself into the debate.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

He can now expect that every time Gen. Kelly takes the podium or is present in the Briefing Room, questions about his accusations of Rep. Wilson (D-FL) will be directed at him. He may not answer, but the press correspondents are going to make this a living issue for him. He wanted to play politics, and he is in the game now. He can avoid debates on additional issues by keeping his pie-hole shut and tending to Chief-of-Staff duties.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
5. As of today it looks like we are a military dictatorship. :(
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:57 AM
Oct 2017
 
6. Why do you think conservatives need "safe spaces?" They take great offence at being asked honest
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:01 AM
Oct 2017

questions about things they've said that aren't true.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
9. I don't think that conservatives need "save spaces". When Gen. Kelly stepped
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:33 AM
Oct 2017

out of the politically "safe space" of his office as "Chief of Staff" and lied about Rep. Wilson, he became a lightning rod on the issue. He is getting what he deserves -- lots of questions from the press about his lies, probably for the rest of his life, everywhere he goes. OK with me.

Gen. Kelly should resign his office, now. His main failing is that he is stupid. Everyone knows that Trump uses people with no compassion and tosses them into the garbage can. Just before Kelly decided to confide in Trump about no call from Obama regarding his son's death, I think a flash warning went off in his mind that said "no, don't tell this SOB anything that is personal and sensitive." But, he ignored it, and then he saw the expression in Trump's face that revealed he was plotting how this information could be used to hit Obama. And, Kelly had regret sweep over himself as he thought "how do I explain it to my wife and mother of my son when this SOB uses it?" Anyway, when the movie is made, I believe that this scene will be in it.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. I told you that freakin' Bernie wasn't a Democrat!
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:40 AM
Oct 2017


Oh. Wait.

Not that Sanders?

Oops.

Sorry.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. USE MRS HUCKABEE NAME IN HEADLINES PLEASE. DU ALLOWS YOU TO ADD CLARITY TO LBN headines
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

THANK YOU.

 
7. Thanks for your input, but I'll pass on that request.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:03 AM
Oct 2017

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. Thanks to CNN FOR HEADLINE that's EASY for headline reader only DOTARDS to misunderstand
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:42 AM
Oct 2017

Did you "PASS" because you wanted some readers to assume your OP is about Senator Sanders?

When the DU site owner CLEARLY STATED OPs can add clarity to headlines? and used Sanders name AS EXAMPLE.

Response to Sunlei (Reply #10)

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
14. The search function
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:35 PM
Oct 2017

Doesn't look for context. I agree with Sunlei.

Response to canetoad (Reply #14)

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
16. Who cares?
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:01 PM
Oct 2017

I didn't use caps. Please address your concerns to the correct department.

Response to canetoad (Reply #16)

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
21. You're welcome. nt
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:46 PM
Oct 2017

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
8. I second the motion.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:16 AM
Oct 2017

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. Thank you, Bud
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:44 AM
Oct 2017

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
17. I almost wonder if that's why Trump hired her.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:12 PM
Oct 2017

He should hire a hispanic valet named Jesus just so he can say, "I ask Jesus for guidance everyday," even though it's just to help him put his pants on.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. good point, you're probably right. or he hired her because shes not "grab worthy" in his book.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:19 PM
Oct 2017
remember, trump did say "He can't help himself" if a grab worthy woman gets in range of his hands.

Denzil_DC

(9,100 posts)
13. You know what's "inappropriate"?
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:08 PM
Oct 2017

Slandering and publicly victimizing and politicizing a family and its friends in the throes of grief, when they should be allowed to vent as they need as part of the grieving process before their loved one is even interred.

If you're a humane adult, you suck it up and let the process work itself through with empathy and understanding. That's all that needed to be said in response, with some semblance of dignity: "The family and friends are understandably hurting right now, and our thoughts and prayers are with them.* No further comment."

Even Bush II seems to have had a grip on that.

If you can't live up to that standard, you have no business speaking about "honor."


* I really hate that "thoughts and prayers" formula, but it seems to be expected.

question everything

(52,131 posts)
18. Can you add (Sarah) in parenthesis to the title so that I would not think it is Bernie? (nt)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:31 PM
Oct 2017

Response to question everything (Reply #18)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. I told you the DU owner said YOU CAN clarify BNheadlines LIKE THIS (SARAH HUCKABEE)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Oct 2017

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
24. No danger of misconstruing
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:19 PM
Oct 2017

It's an odd coinky but no one is going to be confused. Anyway this whole thing is sort of strange. Wherefore the international brouhaha? The condolences seem well intentioned. It just doesn't seem to merit this much angst I guess.

Chemisse

(31,343 posts)
25. Locking
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:59 PM
Oct 2017

The link was over 12 hours old when this was posted and it is a duplicate of this thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141894235

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