Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:33 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation
Source: CNN
Breaking News. Indictments are sealed. Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | OP |
Wounded Bear | Oct 2017 | #1 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #2 | |
bathroommonkey76 | Oct 2017 | #3 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #4 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #5 | |
bathroommonkey76 | Oct 2017 | #7 | |
videohead5 | Oct 2017 | #6 | |
OKNancy | Oct 2017 | #8 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #9 | |
metalbot | Oct 2017 | #11 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #26 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #14 | |
PunkinPi | Oct 2017 | #10 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #16 | |
dalton99a | Oct 2017 | #40 | |
drray23 | Oct 2017 | #12 | |
BigmanPigman | Oct 2017 | #13 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #21 | |
BigmanPigman | Oct 2017 | #24 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #25 | |
BigmanPigman | Oct 2017 | #29 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #37 | |
BigmanPigman | Oct 2017 | #41 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #44 | |
marybourg | Oct 2017 | #64 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #15 | |
Gothmog | Oct 2017 | #17 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #20 | |
AncientGeezer | Oct 2017 | #28 | |
Glimmer of Hope | Oct 2017 | #18 | |
Madam45for2923 | Oct 2017 | #19 | |
OliverQ | Oct 2017 | #22 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #23 | |
bearsfootball516 | Oct 2017 | #27 | |
OliverQ | Oct 2017 | #31 | |
bearsfootball516 | Oct 2017 | #34 | |
Sanity Claws | Oct 2017 | #39 | |
WhoWoodaKnew | Oct 2017 | #56 | |
Wednesdays | Oct 2017 | #32 | |
bearsfootball516 | Oct 2017 | #36 | |
George II | Oct 2017 | #35 | |
George II | Oct 2017 | #30 | |
Not Ruth | Oct 2017 | #33 | |
L. Coyote | Oct 2017 | #38 | |
Dr. Jack | Oct 2017 | #46 | |
CanonRay | Oct 2017 | #42 | |
IronLionZion | Oct 2017 | #43 | |
Dr. Jack | Oct 2017 | #45 | |
Fred Sanders | Oct 2017 | #51 | |
Dr. Jack | Oct 2017 | #52 | |
IronLionZion | Oct 2017 | #58 | |
Stuart G | Oct 2017 | #47 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2017 | #49 | |
L. Coyote | Oct 2017 | #54 | |
sprinkleeninow | Oct 2017 | #61 | |
L. Coyote | Oct 2017 | #62 | |
sprinkleeninow | Oct 2017 | #63 | |
Skittles | Oct 2017 | #66 | |
Blue Owl | Oct 2017 | #48 | |
Dr. Jack | Oct 2017 | #50 | |
Fred Sanders | Oct 2017 | #53 | |
Calista241 | Oct 2017 | #55 | |
Dr. Jack | Oct 2017 | #57 | |
sprinkleeninow | Oct 2017 | #60 | |
workinclasszero | Oct 2017 | #59 | |
marybourg | Oct 2017 | #65 | |
Skittles | Oct 2017 | #67 | |
BumRushDaShow | Oct 2017 | #69 | |
Chemisse | Oct 2017 | #68 |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:34 PM
Wounded Bear (50,317 posts)
1. Your "link" to source isn't a link...
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:35 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
2. No link yet. n/t
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:35 PM
bathroommonkey76 (3,827 posts)
3. It will be up soon.
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:35 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
4. Here is a link:
I just tested it...yes this works.... and give it some time to come up...
http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn%3Fsr |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #4)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:37 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
5. Thanks. How sweet it is!
Response to Stuart G (Reply #4)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:37 PM
bathroommonkey76 (3,827 posts)
7. That is the stream to CNN.
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:37 PM
videohead5 (1,758 posts)
6. It's on CNN
Right now.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:38 PM
OKNancy (41,832 posts)
8. Link to CNN website
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html
Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation By Pamela Brown, Evan Perez and Shimon Prokupecz, CNN Updated 8:29 PM ET, Fri October 27, 2017 Washington (CNN)A federal grand jury in Washington, DC, on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter. The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are. A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment. Mueller was appointed in May to lead the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Under the regulations governing special counsel investigations, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has oversight over the Russia investigation, would have been made aware of any charges before they were taken before the grand jury for approval, according to people familiar with the matter. rest at link |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:39 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
9. According to what little I heard, indictments will be announced on Monday..
It was a headline at the CNN link...but we will find out more soon...
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Response to Stuart G (Reply #9)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:43 PM
metalbot (1,058 posts)
11. Indictments on Friday, announcement Monday
Have a nice weekend, Mr Reality-TV President!
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Response to metalbot (Reply #11)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:15 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
26. They need to make the arrest(s) first.
Pick 'em up and get their passports is the next move. I'm sure Mueller has surveillance on the bastards.
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Response to Stuart G (Reply #9)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:45 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
14. I just heard that Muller has a whole lot of possibilities..
As we know, it could be one, or it could be a few...or many. We will have to wait a few days more.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:39 PM
PunkinPi (4,793 posts)
10. Here ya go...
Response to PunkinPi (Reply #10)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:46 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
16. Thank you.
Go Mueller. Kick their asses.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:43 PM
drray23 (6,507 posts)
12. so now we get to play the guessing game until monday.nt.
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:43 PM
BigmanPigman (45,898 posts)
13. The smaller fish are the typically the first indictments
and this is going to take a long time they are saying on CNN right now. Maybe they are trying to get people to flip. Carl Bernstein thinks Mueller is going after conspiracy/collusion more than obstruction. Also, Mueller may be expecting people to flee the country.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #13)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:59 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
21. a short story about "Carl Bernstein"..and Woodard ...
Sometime after the Watergate scandal hat hit, Woodard and Bernstein appeared at the University of Chicago law school for a short lecture and answer session. It was open to the public and all were invited. A friend and I went. I don't remember the exact date, but I think their first book had been published. After a short talk, question and answers were allowed.
..I got to ask a question which was simply. .Do you think Nixon was nuts ? They did not answer the question because they said that they could not interpret his actions in that way.......Sometime in 74..I think.. A couple of years after that first book, they wrote a second book. I do not remember the name of that 2nd book, but I recall reading a couple of reviews. Basically the 2nd book stated that towards the last month or two of Nixon's time in the Whitehouse...he had gone nuts, talking to the pictures and walls... |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #21)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:06 PM
BigmanPigman (45,898 posts)
24. Yes, I have read and heard that several times during the last year.
Nixon drank in the evenings so a lot of his actions have been linked to that. I believe he was living with so much guilt that it did indeed effect his mind. He was smart about many things but at the end it caught up with him. I like to think of Poe's The Tell Tale Heart.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #24)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:15 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
25. One thing about Tricky Dick....after he left, resigned....you almost never heard from him.
on anything. If I recall, he almost never said anything in public about anything....
I cannot imagine that happening to Drump. But we are not there yet. I sure hope we get there though. Drump deserves the worst. He is such a mean vicious person. The way he talked to the widow, and even yesterday, bringing it up again.. No humanity or sensitivity at all...and never an apology, never |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #25)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:20 PM
BigmanPigman (45,898 posts)
29. Have you seen Nixon's David Frost interview?
He stuck to his story and dug his heels in deeper. David Frost was so mad. I think it was in 1976.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #29)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:24 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
37. Yes I do remember that...Nixon never gave an inch..
But I do recall that after a while, he didn't say much. at least that is what I seem to remember. I don't think he wrote a book about it (I may be wrong) but I do not think he gave many interviews after that one..
But of course, I could be wrong..it was a while ago.. Our family called him Tricky Dick in the 50s.. |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #37)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:31 PM
BigmanPigman (45,898 posts)
41. I still have the newspaper from August when he resigned.
I am going to give it to my neighbor since he said he would love to hang it in his classroom (he teaches High school History). The font is 3 inches and it is yellowed a bit. I was young and felt sorry for him since he cried on TV. My parents said that I would feel sorry for Hitler.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #41)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:42 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
44. I have it, the newspaper headlined, "I am not a crook"..but here it is on TV,now..I am not a crook
Here is a moment in history, brought to you by You Tube "I am not a crook".. .back by popular demand...
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Response to Stuart G (Reply #25)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 02:15 AM
marybourg (11,097 posts)
64. I used to see him in the Federal Building
in NYC, where he was given his post-presidential offices, with the ordinary federal drudges, to humiliate him. He was always courteous to us worker bees, but his Secret Service detail was not.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:45 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
15. By Pamela Brown, Evan Perez and Shimon Prokupecz CNN - KITV 4 ABC
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:46 PM
Gothmog (111,247 posts)
17. Who was charged?
Response to Gothmog (Reply #17)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:57 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
20. Indictment is sealed.
Probably little flipper fish.
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #17)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:20 PM
AncientGeezer (2,146 posts)
28. You don't know???
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:47 PM
Glimmer of Hope (5,823 posts)
18. Tell us now....don't make us wait!
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:54 PM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
19. Kicking!
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:59 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
22. Guessing it's Manafort.
What happens if Trump pardons?
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #22)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:02 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
23. The shit hits the fan. n/t
Response to mobeau69 (Reply #23)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:18 PM
bearsfootball516 (6,286 posts)
27. Yeah, if he pardon's Manafort, things will get real ugly
His approval will plummet down to the bare bones of his base, and no higher. Probably mid-20s. We'd start seeing prominent Republicans start trying to distance themselves from him.
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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #27)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:21 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
31. Nah, Republicans won't care if he pardons. They've proven they're complicit and guilty too.
Not to be cynical, but what are the odds this isn't someone in the Trump circle?
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #31)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:23 PM
bearsfootball516 (6,286 posts)
34. That's quite possible
I'm trying to not let myself get too excited, but it's hard not to. Every time something big has broken, it always seems to just sort of fade into the background and not be as big as we thought it would be.
So, I have guarded optimism about this. |
Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #27)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:28 PM
Sanity Claws (20,705 posts)
39. I think the NY AG will bring charges on money laundering or other charges
Those charges can be pursued under NY state law too. The President has no authority to pardon state crimes.
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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #39)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:05 PM
WhoWoodaKnew (847 posts)
56. Correct
Response to mobeau69 (Reply #23)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:23 PM
Wednesdays (13,901 posts)
32. What, exactly, does that mean?
Remembering similar rhetoric when Comey was fired.
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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #32)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:24 PM
bearsfootball516 (6,286 posts)
36. Bannon said firing Comey was the worst decision Trump has made since taking office
Since it led directly to the hiring of Mueller.
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #22)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:24 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
35. That's my guess, too. The realtor who arranged his condominium purchase in VA was interrogated...
....last week, and it appears these are Virginia indictments.
The report is that those charged will be taken into custody on Monday. A pardon would be presidential suicide, even the most zealous republicans won't go for a pardon at this point. It's going to be a LONG weekend waiting for this to play out! |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:21 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
30. Those charged will be taken into custody on Monday.
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:23 PM
Not Ruth (3,613 posts)
33. Guessing Ivanka
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:27 PM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
38. No wonder they have been so busy going after Clinton this week.
Response to L. Coyote (Reply #38)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:44 PM
Dr. Jack (629 posts)
46. Bwahahahahahahaha!
.......BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:37 PM
CanonRay (12,400 posts)
42. Don't ask me why, just a hunch
but my money is on Carter Page.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:41 PM
IronLionZion (38,184 posts)
43. How Dipshit ought to be feeling right about now
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:43 PM
Dr. Jack (629 posts)
45. I spent all day reading right wing news stories
I got distracted at work and spent all day on Politico and The Hill reading stories about uranium deals, Steele, and Republicans attacking Mueller. Honestly, it made my blood boil because it seemed like a massive hit job of old stories, conspiracy theories, and cover ups. Now it all makes sense, they were desperately trying to deflect before the hammer dropped. People in the comments of these "news" stories kept saying "it seems like they are getting worried", "it seems like they are deflecting" and that turned out to be 100% true. The cathartic feeling I have right now is overwhelming. The Trumpster tears are delicious. They sustain me.
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Response to Dr. Jack (Reply #45)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:18 PM
Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)
51. I rarely go to Fox website. Only in times like these. The mocking comments to Fox sheeple
are hilarious. Meantime's the sheeple are stunned into silence. Too sweet.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #51)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:20 PM
Dr. Jack (629 posts)
52. If the Russian trolls and Trump ass lickers are quiet, you know they are spooked
And from what I am seeing, its all quiet in Moscow tonight.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #51)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:53 PM
IronLionZion (38,184 posts)
58. Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html
Since Fox News is posting this garbage, Mueller must be on to something big. Other very important stories of national interest on Fox News front page right now: Married substitute teacher, 26, accused of 'bathrobe man cave sex' with her teen boy student ![]() |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:49 PM
Stuart G (33,794 posts)
47. Question...Will Trump go on TV and say..."I am not a crook" What do you think?
or will he say...I do not lie, I haven't lied, and will never lie.....maybe that is what he will say..eh?
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Response to Stuart G (Reply #47)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:51 PM
mobeau69 (8,586 posts)
49. "People need to know if their president is a crook." - Tricky Dick
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Response to Stuart G (Reply #47)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:33 PM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
54. Trump is the first president to tweet "I am not a colluder."
Response to L. Coyote (Reply #54)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:39 AM
sprinkleeninow (15,562 posts)
61. He may go on tv and say,
"I am not a president."
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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #61)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:46 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
62. If Trump is now one of the indicted , indeed he may resign, but
he'll do it on Twitter.
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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #62)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:54 AM
sprinkleeninow (15,562 posts)
63. A strong HAHAH! Ooh, that's good. 😆
Screenshot going to the husband.
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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #62)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 02:26 AM
Skittles (142,907 posts)
66. I really wish it said F*CKING DIE
yes INDEED
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:49 PM
Blue Owl (39,909 posts)
48. For once, a reason to look forward to Monday
n/n
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:57 PM
Dr. Jack (629 posts)
50. An hour later and nothing about this on Fox News
The only Mueller story they have is about why he needs to resign right now, along with the typical stories about Obamacare being a failure and why Hillary Clinton steals the souls of good christan babies in their sleep, or some shit.
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Response to Dr. Jack (Reply #50)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:25 PM
Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)
53. Pravda America has the story up now..along with pathetic deflection by their stable of
paid liars.
Still, the impression is of them all shitting their pants. Long overdue...clean up on all aisles! |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:34 PM
Calista241 (5,329 posts)
55. i got a box of twinkies that says it's Manafort.
Response to Calista241 (Reply #55)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:28 PM
Dr. Jack (629 posts)
57. l will bet 100 rubles and a bottle of trump vodka that you are right
Response to Calista241 (Reply #55)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:35 AM
sprinkleeninow (15,562 posts)
60. Gave my husband late breaking news at 11:00 b4
he turned in. "Indictments!" Then I said hold the glee. Most likely Manafort.
I'll bet a bottle of Slivovice and homemade Apricot Cheese Kolach. 😜 |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:30 AM
workinclasszero (28,270 posts)
59. Saturday night massacre incoming?
Saturday Night Massacre
The Saturday Night Massacre refers to U.S. President Richard Nixon's orders to fire independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox, which led to the resignations of Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus on October 20, 1973, during the Watergate scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 02:19 AM
marybourg (11,097 posts)
65. 6 hours later and WaPo still has nothing.
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 02:28 AM
Skittles (142,907 posts)
67. now we know why Trump released the JFK files
anything to distract
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Response to Skittles (Reply #67)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:05 AM
BumRushDaShow (96,205 posts)
69. By law, he had an Oct. 26th deadline to make the decision however...
the continued withholding of some items (instead of releasing all remaining stuff per the law) becomes the distraction!
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:45 AM
Chemisse (30,351 posts)
68. Let the games begin!
Who will it be? Will Trump convince people that Hillary's emails are more interesting than one of his people being arrested? Or will he finally pull out that nuke?
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