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Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:49 PM

Dustin Hoffman sexually harrassed me when I was 17

Source: Hollywood Reporter

"This is a story I've told so often I'm sometimes surprised when someone I know hasn't heard it. It begins, "Dustin Hoffman sexually harassed me when I was 17." Then I give the details: When I was a senior in high school in New York City, interning as a production assistant on the set of the Death of a Salesman TV film, he asked me to give him a foot massage my first day on set; I did.

He was openly flirtatious, he grabbed my ass, he talked about sex to me and in front of me. One morning I went to his dressing room to take his breakfast order; he looked at me and grinned, taking his time. Then he said, "I'll have a hard-boiled egg and a soft-boiled clitoris." His entourage burst out laughing. I left, speechless. Then I went to the bathroom and cried."

Read more: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466



Add Hoffman to the list. She was 17. He was 48. He was also 5 years into his second marriage.

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Reply Dustin Hoffman sexually harrassed me when I was 17 (Original post)
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 OP
nocalflea Nov 2017 #1
Doodley Nov 2017 #2
xor Nov 2017 #4
Liberalagogo Nov 2017 #5
FarPoint Nov 2017 #9
Doodley Nov 2017 #7
pnwmom Nov 2017 #12
MontanaMama Nov 2017 #3
TygrBright Nov 2017 #6
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #8
MountCleaners Nov 2017 #10
Botany Nov 2017 #11
Le Gaucher Nov 2017 #13
FakeNoose Nov 2017 #14
Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #15
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #16
Swagman Nov 2017 #17

Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:57 PM

1. Damn !

How do you treat someone else's daughter this way ?

I don't think I could've kept my composure in front of him.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:59 PM

2. It all seems like trial by media.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:32 PM

4. Perhaps. But this entire industry brought it upon themselves by being so permissive of sexual

harassment and assault. Had it been dealt with correctly then we wouldn't see things going down the way they are happening now.

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Response to xor (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:36 PM

5. This isn't a defense

 

but the entertainment industry has been like this since it began as an industry.

Hopefully, everyone standing up for themselves openly will bring about permanent change.

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:21 PM

9. Exactly....

I will pay attention when charges are filed...there is a process....use it I say.

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Response to xor (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:48 PM

7. I don't think the film or entertainment industry is unique.

There are sexual predators in every industry. The only difference is Dustin Hoffman or Kevin Spacey, etc., are household names. Stories about them are newsworthy. The boss at the local bank or the office manager - nobody in the media is interested. If this is really the worst allegation about Dustin Hoffman, then he is a better man than millions of others. That is not to defend him, but to point out that this is really a non-story when you hold it up to workplace harassment that goes on every day.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:13 PM

12. Because they never had to undergo the real kind. n/t

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:13 PM

3. Unbelievable.

Except I believe it.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 05:45 PM

6. It's really worth reading the whole article.

In part, because the author is both so revelatory of the ambiguity of the experience (at the time) for her, and so reflective of the larger context it shaped for her and her experience of being a second-class human being- someone whose value is to some extent predicated on their sexual availability.

And in part, because the final footnote about Hoffman's response is going to presage so many, many other celebs of his generation as they are called on what was "normal and okay" back then. He may or may not think more deeply into it, and come to a more profound sense of the harm that he unwittingly did. But something like that is going to be heard, over and over and over again.

And the ability of girls and women to find a sense of validation and even pleasure in being objectified, to cooperate in their own objectification- needs to be understood by the assholes who think "but she acted like she liked it!" is a valid defense. Survival mechanisms are just that: survival mechanisms.

It's a messy time.

sadly,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:01 PM

8. It was common then and it's common now

It was NEVER okay. At the time, Hoffman had 2 teenage daughters from his first marriage, which makes it that much more creepy.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:32 PM

10. All of these stories!

I almost majored in theater in college. I'm glad I didn't go into acting!! I don't handle sexual harassment well. We deal with our "problems" differently on the south side of Chicago.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:08 PM

13. And here's to you Mr Robinson

 

She hates it more than you will ever know
Woe woe woe woe woe woe

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:18 PM

14. She's got witnesses, if anyone is willing to talk

Most men wouldn't consider this sexual harrassment though.

This is "locker room talk" as Trump would say. Women are expected to grin and be good sports about it. Most men think that if penetration didn't happen, it's not sexual harrassment.



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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:30 PM

15. I imagine this will be just one of dozens, if not more, revelations of crude, crass, pathetic sexual

behavior of well known males.
Well known names because someone saying, hey, my immediate boss (when I was 18, 20, 24, 26, 30, 40, etc etc), Joe Schmoe used to leer at me and make highly suggestive moves on me and practice abusive sexual behavior that he felt entitled to just because I am a female, is not news. It is daily life for any female in any workplace, school, playground.

It is sad, infuriating, but not surprising and certainly not exclusive of one profession.
It is a male problem.
It is a society problem.
It is a mental problem.
It is an accountability problem.
It is a problem of generations of enabling and acceptance of gross and improper language and aggressive physical behavior of certain types, and a LOT, of men objectifying and disrespecting females...or other young vulnerable males.
In a society that has bred sexual predators in positions of power in religion and done nothing...has condoned shit for brains office environment crudeness and accepted, ignorant, base, gender abuses...in a world that excuses crap behavior from male youth because tsk tsk *boys will be boys*...expect thousands of revelations. Most of them very true.

This past political season brought home this numbingly vomitous and hideous social problem that is STILL being vilely practiced.

Until males are held accountable, challenged and refuted for it, it will continue.
It is going to be a very ugly transition with a ton of disappointments, sadness, adjustments, repercussions.
But it is well past time to create change.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:31 AM

16. His apology

"I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation. I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am."

I'm sick of this "it's not who I am" bullshit. Yes, actually it is who you are. "I might have done"? How about just say "I did".

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Original post)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:26 AM

17. I'm old fashioned- I like the Presumption of Innocence. Not sure when

that flew out the window and just because someone is part of Hollywood does not mean they are guilty or innocent or should be considered a cause of a problem.

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