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Jose Garcia

(2,551 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:04 PM Nov 2017

Progressive Group Calls Ralph Northam Racist, Sparking Intra-Party Feud Ahead Of Big Election

Source: Huffington Post

A major national progressive group on Thursday denounced Ralph Northam, the Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Virginia, as “gutless” and “racist” for his remarks on immigration ― plunging Democrats into a bitter internecine squabble ahead of statewide elections on Tuesday.

In a Wednesday interview with Norfolk, Virginia, TV news channel WAVY, Northam said he would sign a bill banning so-called “sanctuary cities,” or municipalities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration authorities, should any Virginia locality pursue that status in the future.

Northam’s opponent, Republican Ed Gillespie, has run a series of misleading ads attacking Northam for a vote as lieutenant governor blocking a bill that would have preemptively banned municipalities from adopting these limits ― though Gillespie himself has acknowledged that no sanctuary cities exist in Virginia as of yet.

Speaking to reporters Wednesday night after an event with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee, Northam claimed that he simply opposed preemptively banning sanctuary cities, and that his comments to WAVY were “what I’ve been saying all along.”

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dfa-ralph-northam-virginia-governors-race_us_59fc9562e4b0415a420b7623

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Progressive Group Calls Ralph Northam Racist, Sparking Intra-Party Feud Ahead Of Big Election (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2017 OP
Watch how much attention this story gets over next 4 days. Sickening. Link is wrong Justice Nov 2017 #1
Sorry--fixed Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #8
Deja Vu. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #2
Yep, exactly. LisaM Nov 2017 #6
Comey was a Republican most of his life. DFA is not suppsoed to be helping elect Republicans Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #9
Yep, it's sickening. How dumb can you get. They just handed the election to the repug. brush Nov 2017 #11
It just popped into my head that this might actually help Northam. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #24
I just meant timing wise.... LisaM Nov 2017 #12
Rinse and repeat... How many more times before we finally smarten up? Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #35
Once Again... Me. Nov 2017 #3
another non story that will be beat to death. is DFA running out of $$? nt msongs Nov 2017 #4
I hope they go bankrupt after this. nycbos Nov 2017 #14
Link goes to another story. What is the progressive group mentioned? NT enough Nov 2017 #5
Sorry--fixed Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #7
Does ANYONE know anything about this leftynyc Nov 2017 #10
I found this website. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #36
I read here that Dean leftynyc Nov 2017 #40
Democracy for America, Burlington, Vermont - I could have guessed that..... George II Nov 2017 #13
Strange. ananda Nov 2017 #15
DFA is not the "Dem establishment" Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #16
Then who are they? leftynyc Nov 2017 #23
Bernie supporters Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #25
Thanks leftynyc Nov 2017 #27
Dean is no longer connected to the organization Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #49
Dean condemned this action today on twitter. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #51
I saw that here leftynyc Nov 2017 #57
And Warren supporters. Her image is on their site front and center. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #41
Please say it is a Russian troll and not actual progressives. muntrv Nov 2017 #17
Have we been set up? There's been a lot of infighting the last week or so bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #18
Ed Gillespie thanks you. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #19
Exactly. The last thing the Dem needs in a tight race is controversy. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #42
+1 nitpicker Nov 2017 #55
I just want to throw up. leftofcool Nov 2017 #20
I'm sorry, but are we on our way to be Republicans? HopeAgain Nov 2017 #21
Well, you can sit in a corner & think that, while Republicans win elections Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #43
I didn't say we shouldn't be pragmatic HopeAgain Nov 2017 #53
I'm in Virginia, the VA GOP is literally running on confederate nostalgia, there are NAZI rallies... renegade000 Nov 2017 #50
If you are undocumented, HopeAgain Nov 2017 #52
What gets me is how unsurprising backlash froms Democrats is Bradical79 Nov 2017 #60
Howard Dean cut his ties to them over this. Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #22
How about we win this frickin election first? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #26
Interesting timing, wouldn't you say? Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #30
They want to lose Wolf Frankula Nov 2017 #37
Is DFA "under the table" funded by Kremlin oligarchs? paleotn Nov 2017 #28
I find the timing suspicious.nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #31
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #29
2020 is going to be excruciating Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #32
This is not an innerparty fight GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #33
Fucking idiots... Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #34
DFA sent me an email yesterday: "We're transforming the electorate in VA - Can you help?" red dog 1 Nov 2017 #38
They have a different agenda than the Democratic Party. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #44
Are some people so blind they would prefer we turn to the OldHippieChick Nov 2017 #39
If we demand perfection, we'll lose elections across the country. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #45
"Progressive group" MY ASS! RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #46
No, Boris and Natasha Wolf Frankula Nov 2017 #47
The far left is working with the far right to destroy the free world. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #48
With Friends Like These... Podkayne K Nov 2017 #54
Well, I hope they enjoy their Confederate statues Gov. Gillespie promises to keep. Vinca Nov 2017 #56
Shake those shiny keys, vlad DiverDave Nov 2017 #58
How is helping to elect a republican being progressive? Gothmog Nov 2017 #59

brush

(53,467 posts)
11. Yep, it's sickening. How dumb can you get. They just handed the election to the repug.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:23 PM
Nov 2017

They should've held their fire and worked with Northam after the election on the sanctuary cities issue.

These groups are shooting us in the foot with their lack of political acumen and purity demands.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. Does ANYONE know anything about this
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:22 PM
Nov 2017

supposed national progressive group? I never heard of them before yesterday.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. I found this website.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:03 PM
Nov 2017
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/about

It was apparently founded by Howard Dean. It seems to support only progressive candidates. It's not a Democratic Party group.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. I read here that Dean
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:37 PM
Nov 2017

disavowed them today. How do they not see this damages their own lives? Are they anarchists?

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Democracy for America, Burlington, Vermont - I could have guessed that.....
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:25 PM
Nov 2017

....They're the ones who were given my email address the day after the DNC database (who had my email address) was breached back in December 2015, and started flooding my inbox with as many as five emails a day asking for money.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. Then who are they?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:54 PM
Nov 2017

I never heard of them before yesterday. Bernie supporters or russian would be my bet.

bucolic_frolic

(42,651 posts)
18. Have we been set up? There's been a lot of infighting the last week or so
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:39 PM
Nov 2017

Ideas do get floated, planted, take root, and surface from powers wanting us to fail

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
55. +1
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:30 AM
Nov 2017

The reliable source polls released over the last two days have this race as tied.

Thank you so much, disunifiers.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
21. I'm sorry, but are we on our way to be Republicans?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:45 PM
Nov 2017

Yes, I understand that he is running against a Right Wing POS. And hell yes I would prefer he wins, and I'd even rather see this organization (which is not part of the Democratic Party in any way) continue to support him over Gillespie (who is frightening).

But to see a Democrat state "he would sign a bill banning so-called “sanctuary cities,” or municipalities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration authorities," makes me feel hopeless for liberalism in this country. First Second Amendment, second reproductive rights, third immigration hysteria. What's next? Civil Rights?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
43. Well, you can sit in a corner & think that, while Republicans win elections
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:51 PM
Nov 2017

and control the states.

There's a pragmatism in politics.

Also...there are no sanctuary cities in VA, and not likely to be. Plus, don't take campaign talk that seriously.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
50. I'm in Virginia, the VA GOP is literally running on confederate nostalgia, there are NAZI rallies...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:42 PM
Nov 2017

But evidently equivocating on sanctuary cities is just as bad?!?!

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
60. What gets me is how unsurprising backlash froms Democrats is
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:42 PM
Nov 2017

Even if it's campaign talk about non-existant sancuary cities, it's still support for racist Republican policy, and most people aren't party strategists. There's nothing wrong with people calling racism what it is, and it would be more worrying to me if nobody said anything against what he said.

Bleacher Creature

(11,235 posts)
22. Howard Dean cut his ties to them over this.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:46 PM
Nov 2017



This is such an incredibly stupid move. Do people have any idea what will happen if Gillespie wins?? It's not just that he'll trash VA, which he will, but it would empower Trump. It also would convince Congressional Republicans that they may not be risking their seats by supporting the racist, sexist, anti-Semitic worldview of Trump world.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. Interesting timing, wouldn't you say?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:36 PM
Nov 2017

Timed not to hold Northam's feet to the fire. Timed so that Republican Ed Gillespie will win.

Would be interesting to see who's in that vague group.

Wolf Frankula

(3,595 posts)
37. They want to lose
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

Then they can look down on the voters as morons who don't know their own interest. They think they'll always be safe in their cocoons. "Oh but things have to get worse before they can get better," they say. "First brown, then red."

First brown, then red always ends up, 'First brown, then dead'.

Wolf

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
33. This is not an innerparty fight
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:52 PM
Nov 2017

It is more ‘democratic socialists’ doing what they do. Attacking a Demographic Politician facing a close general election.

Would love to see where they get their Rubles, errr funding.

red dog 1

(27,647 posts)
38. DFA sent me an email yesterday: "We're transforming the electorate in VA - Can you help?"
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:29 PM
Nov 2017

Ironically, there is absolutely no mention of Ralph Northam, the Democratic gubernatorial candidate in the email.


(From the DFA email)

"Polling is showing a tight race in Virginia

The Republican Party's white supremacist tactics are riling up their base.
If we want to elect progressive champions like Lieutenant Governor candidate Justin Fairfax, we need to motivate our own base - voters of color, young people and progressive working families. And the best way to do that is through one-on-one conversations.

We're calling voters in Virginia every single day this week.
Can you help us transform the electorate and put progressive candidates over the top by joining Democracy for America, Indivisible and MoveOn for a DFA Dialer shift?"



(K&R, thanks for posting)


OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
39. Are some people so blind they would prefer we turn to the
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:51 PM
Nov 2017

right rather than right what is a little wrong w/ out own? Purification will be our downfall. I am so sad.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
48. The far left is working with the far right to destroy the free world.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:21 PM
Nov 2017

If Enron Eddie, he will keep the gerrymandered maps in place.

Vinca

(50,168 posts)
56. Well, I hope they enjoy their Confederate statues Gov. Gillespie promises to keep.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:35 AM
Nov 2017

If Democrats demand purity they'd better run pure candidates.

DiverDave

(4,874 posts)
58. Shake those shiny keys, vlad
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:58 AM
Nov 2017

The children will surely be distracted.
Why people vote against their own intrests is a mystery to me.

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