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progree

(10,907 posts)
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:08 AM Nov 2017

Ed Gillespie Lost an Election. Then He Was Pulverized by Trump and His Allies

Source: Daily Beast

Shortly after the loss, President Donald Trump and his top allies began spinning the result as the result of Gillespie being insufficiently obedient to and appreciative of the Trump agenda.

Laura Ingraham, the Trump-adoring cable news host, accused Gillespie of playing “footsie with conservative populism” without fully embracing it. Breitbart, called him a “Republican swamp thing.” A staffer for Corey Stewart, the conservative candidate who barely lost to Gillespie in the GOP primary, told Fox News that, "Gillespie didn't speak to populist issues early enough in the campaign.”

In the coup-de-grace, Trump himself said Gillespie “worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for” just hours after he recorded an election-day robocall for the candidate and tweeted his support for his campaign.

(snip)

Gillespie never appeared alongside Trump. He ducked him often when asked direct questions. But he embraced his political playbook, at least key passages. He called for keeping up Confederate monuments, accused Northam of supporting sanctuary cities, warned of MS-13 gangs rummaging through northern Virginia and even sent out fliers criticizing football players for kneeling during the national anthem. Steve Bannon had insisted that Gillespie was "rallying around the Trump agenda."

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/ed-gillespie-lost-an-election-then-he-was-pulverized-by-trump-and-his-allies



Actually, maybe this is the title -- but the first line was in much smaller font, so I didn't use the first line just to be safe LBN-rules-wise:

NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY
Ed Gillespie Lost an Election. Then He Was Pulverized by Trump and His Allies

The subheading was adorable too:
A GOP civil war is coming. Tuesday night may have ensured it just came quicker.

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Ed Gillespie Lost an Election. Then He Was Pulverized by Trump and His Allies (Original Post) progree Nov 2017 OP
I think conservative populism is oxymoron n/t hibbing Nov 2017 #1
That's what I call videohead5 Nov 2017 #17
No, Rush is OxyContin. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2017 #41
Because conservative populism is the ultimate con job pulled on the populace. Rollo Nov 2017 #18
I am a bit confused on, "Conservative Populism"... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2017 #32
I Think It Has RobinA Nov 2017 #44
Yup, repubes are "radical elitists" with russian troll support Achilleaze Nov 2017 #38
I think conservative populism is fascism DBoon Nov 2017 #45
Couldn't happen to a bigger ass carrot. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #2
Hey Ed .. take your pile of stinky stuff and get the heck out of here Thekaspervote Nov 2017 #3
Tomorrow will be very interesting. Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #4
They can say whatever they want, the result of Trump tactics were a failure and that isn't going to Tiggeroshii Nov 2017 #5
"... but did not embrace me or what I stand for" Solly Mack Nov 2017 #6
Especially since he lost last year rpannier Nov 2017 #8
It couldn't win him the national election either. He was about to get clobbered, even after Comey StevieM Nov 2017 #9
There are times when I am simply amazed by how people can't see the sickness in his ego. Solly Mack Nov 2017 #13
funny rpannier Nov 2017 #7
Word of wisdom from an unlikely source: Michael Steele onenote Nov 2017 #10
Steele is a snake. Right up to the finish he was trying to depress OnDoutside Nov 2017 #12
The sniveller-in-chief not fooled Nov 2017 #11
ingraham would not be shit without talk radio certainot Nov 2017 #14
I hear you but the question is... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #25
it's not about competing with it. that's wall mart vs mom and pop. certainot Nov 2017 #52
Now Trump has something ELSE he'll need to ask Putin about. C Moon Nov 2017 #15
Trump will run out of "friends" very quickly. A bad election cycle is more dangerous than Mueller. Midnight Writer Nov 2017 #16
So is the Virginia economy really terrible? progree Nov 2017 #19
Trump: Gillespie lost cuz he "worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for" edbermac Nov 2017 #20
The idiocy of that statement rests in rpannier Nov 2017 #26
Trump's wife won't embrace him. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #27
I sure hope ALL Republican candidates embrace Trump! SunSeeker Nov 2017 #31
List of Virginia governors according to Wikipedia progree Nov 2017 #21
Sweet. nt vkkv Nov 2017 #22
Worrying... C Moon Nov 2017 #23
Apparently a Gillespie voter on his way to vote progree Nov 2017 #24
I need happiness right now and this is giving me a wonderful dose Doreen Nov 2017 #28
Well of course it wasn't Trumps fault. Kablooie Nov 2017 #29
Couldn't happen to a nicer asswipe. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #30
Meanwhile, the Virginia GOP is blaming it all on Trump: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #33
"Total Dem sweep" "crushing numbers" LOVE IT underpants Nov 2017 #34
Gillespie went way negative way early AND ran a ghost campaign underpants Nov 2017 #35
Point of interest: the small line of copy above the headline is called an eyebrow. Demit Nov 2017 #36
All of Trump's allies need to take notice of this IronLionZion Nov 2017 #37
Republicans are fucking idiots! workinclasszero Nov 2017 #39
Am I supposed to feel sorry for Mr Gillespie? AllyCat Nov 2017 #40
Gillespie ran the most vile, despicable ads in Northern Virginia. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #50
It's called LOYALTY. Total Trump Loyalty. My thoughts and prayers to Ed bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #42
Sad but fun morning when I kinda feel sorry for a bastard like ed dembotoz Nov 2017 #43
Ingraham PatSeg Nov 2017 #46
That's just msm BS about civil war among repugs. lark Nov 2017 #47
K&R. Repugs wrote the book on how to be two-faced. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #48
Chris Hayes' response to Trump's tweet was "Tire tracks on Gillespie's face." lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #49
Please proceed Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #51

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
32. I am a bit confused on, "Conservative Populism"...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:46 AM
Nov 2017

... is everyone supposed to buy a handgun and holster and pretend it is once again the wild, wild west? No laws, frontier justice, live in Chinese chef's, etc...?

RobinA

(9,891 posts)
44. I Think It Has
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:06 AM
Nov 2017

previously been characterized as "clutching their guns and Bibles" in an ill-timed but accurate statement.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
38. Yup, repubes are "radical elitists" with russian troll support
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:36 AM
Nov 2017

andthe are screwing over the people of the USA.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
5. They can say whatever they want, the result of Trump tactics were a failure and that isn't going to
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:18 AM
Nov 2017

ever change just because they say they weren't.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
9. It couldn't win him the national election either. He was about to get clobbered, even after Comey
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:36 AM
Nov 2017

rigged the race for him a couple times. So then Comey and the FBI came in at the end and rigged the race one more time in order to put him over the top.

Solly Mack

(90,765 posts)
13. There are times when I am simply amazed by how people can't see the sickness in his ego.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:43 AM
Nov 2017

It's like their house is on fire and they stand in the middle of the flames and deny the burning.

Trump makes these * it's all about me* comments that are so extreme and so obviously coming from a damaged human, and his supporters stand there, idiotic smile on their faces, pretending the stench coming from Trump isn't poisonous.

How warped does a person have to be themselves not to notice how damaged Trump is?

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
7. funny
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:20 AM
Nov 2017

Instead of going with the gracious, "It was a state we lost last year. The headwinds were against us. Ed ran an incredible campaign. But we knew it was always going to be an uphill battle."
They went with driveling BS

onenote

(42,700 posts)
10. Word of wisdom from an unlikely source: Michael Steele
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:37 AM
Nov 2017

Who tweeted back at Trump: Did YOU win Virginia?

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
12. Steele is a snake. Right up to the finish he was trying to depress
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:43 AM
Nov 2017

The black vote by essentially calling Northam a racist.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
11. The sniveller-in-chief
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:41 AM
Nov 2017

shows his true asshole self once again. Never misses a chance to take the low road.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
14. ingraham would not be shit without talk radio
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:49 AM
Nov 2017
Laura Ingraham, the Trump-adoring cable news host


that's another great eg of why we're in this mess. talk radio is the only major advantage they have because the left ignores it. and because the left ignores it everyone else left of the great orange asshole ignores it too. while she may have a cable show it was talk radio, like all of the new fascist ignorant lying republicans in media, that gave her a career. --- like hannity, oreilly and secondarily, just about every republican in media or politics.

talk radio is the only reason anyone pays any attention to liars like ingraham - that's where they can hide behind call screeners and say anything they want about liberals and current events, and pretend their shit don't stink, and there are no free easy alternatives for politics........

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
25. I hear you but the question is...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 03:37 AM
Nov 2017

What the hell can be done about it?

Most of us only listen to radio for a little music in our cars, and the Repugs almost own the FCC now. I recently read that small stations now no longer are required to have a studio in the town where the transmitter is located. Therefore, all programming can technically be done from anywhere in the world, including Moscow!

Part of the problem IMO is that the right capitalizes on populist programming that entertains and is affirming of their belief structure, and it's flavored with doses of fear, racism, nationalism and bigotry. It's hard for our truth-loving left to compete with that.

Would be great if we could convince some left-leaning billionaires to buy out Sinclaire Broadcasting, LOL.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
52. it's not about competing with it. that's wall mart vs mom and pop.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 12:13 AM
Nov 2017

its existence is antithetical to democracy. the left cannot ignore it and expect a real democracy.

here are a few things people can do:
to start, dems and media and political scientists need to be encouraged to poll trump support for talk radio. too much analysis ignores the fact that this is actually the talk radio president and most of putin’s trolling piggybacked it. i’ll bet it shows the closest association outside of ‘white’
monitor it —  should be easier now to automate recording and transcribing the main rw talkers so people can search and study the patterns and repetition. if all of a sudden there’s a spike in, say the word ‘iran’ or ‘mueller’ or ‘deep state’, etc, it probably means something. knowing about it before  it becomes reality means not always having to play catch up
credit it —  trump needs a RUSH tattoo on his forehead, as do all republican pols and media hacks. they all ride the talk radio bandwagon and feed from the daily smorgasbord of talking points and excuses. dems in media could accurately preface answers to republican media hacks and politicians with “that’s what limbaugh says but...”
investigate it —  how long has putin been using it? did they find a way to feed limbaugh and coordinate with him and others? are any of them being paid  freelance money? exposing the talk radio gods as tools, especially russian tools, would help. Trump guy Sam Nunberg analyzed 1000s of hrs of RW radio & reported to Trump in 2014. to coordinate with Russian ops?
thank all local businesses that advertise on RW radio stations —  thank them for trump, trumpcare, global warming, privatization of public education, voter suppression, deregulation, tax breaks for billionaires, etc. it’s easy and fun to listen to a few minutes here and there and get a few  email addresses for thank-you notes that can get to the boss/owners.
protest it —   include the radio stations in any progressive protests —  they may  be better places to protest than capitols —  politicians and media will notice.
and to combine a few of those, push the 88 universities that endorse 257 limbaugh stations to stop crapping on their mission statements and start  looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on —  maybe their political science faculties and students can start studying the most dominant political factor in the US the last 30 years. people need to wonder why the unis should drop rw radio. it will start a discussion, gop will freak out, media will notice, and advertisers will flee.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
15. Now Trump has something ELSE he'll need to ask Putin about.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 02:03 AM
Nov 2017

Putin's gonna need a stock pile of extra-strength Excedrin.

Midnight Writer

(21,760 posts)
16. Trump will run out of "friends" very quickly. A bad election cycle is more dangerous than Mueller.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 02:07 AM
Nov 2017

Especially when you piss down the necks of the Republican candidates who have stood by you.

progree

(10,907 posts)
19. So is the Virginia economy really terrible?
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 02:26 AM
Nov 2017
Trump tweeted Monday: "The state of Virginia economy, under Democrat rule, has been terrible," the president tweeted Monday. "If you vote Ed Gillespie tomorrow, it will come roaring back!"

...

"Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for," Trump tweeted Tuesday night, using Twitter's new 280-character limit. "Don't forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!"

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Trump-throws-GOP-candidate-Ed-Gillespie-under-the-12339966.php


So, Virginia's economy is "terrible" (at a 3.8% unemployment rate), while the national economy is doing "record numbers" (national unemployment rate, 4.2%). Or is he referring to the Virginia economy in the 2nd tweet as well? Did the Virginia economy turn around in just 1 day?

edbermac

(15,939 posts)
20. Trump: Gillespie lost cuz he "worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for"
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 02:28 AM
Nov 2017

Well Donald that's why he lost because he DID embrace you and what you stood for.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
26. The idiocy of that statement rests in
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 03:55 AM
Nov 2017

il douche lost to HRC last year
How does anyone think that embracing hair douche, the loser, would result in anything but a loss

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
27. Trump's wife won't embrace him.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 03:55 AM
Nov 2017

The election results around the country repudiate everything Donald Trump stands for. Trump's "victory" of one year ago was a complete aberration. Without the help of the FBI and Russia, Trump would be golfing everyday right now (he's pretty much doing that anyway, isn't he) and probably not facing prison time. But Trump's ego took over and now his "brand" is down the shitter, and soon he and his family will be spending some quality time together IN PRISON!

Sooner or later Trump and his ego are going to have to come to grips with the fact that he sucks. You're a legend in your own mind, Donnie, and that's all!

progree

(10,907 posts)
21. List of Virginia governors according to Wikipedia
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 02:34 AM
Nov 2017
73. Ralph Northam ## January 13, 2018 ## Governor-Elect ## Justin Fairfax ## Democratic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Virginia

(Scroll 2/3 of the way down the page)

NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY

progree

(10,907 posts)
24. Apparently a Gillespie voter on his way to vote
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 03:03 AM
Nov 2017


Actually,

A roundabout in Worthington, Minn., was apparently too confusing for the driver of an RV. So he/she simply ignored it and took the direct route

https://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/11/how-not-to-use-a-roundabout/

underpants

(182,799 posts)
35. Gillespie went way negative way early AND ran a ghost campaign
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:03 AM
Nov 2017

There's wasn't even a "Hi. Here's who I am phase" to speak of. He went full scare tactic almost at the very beginning. He also would just show up places without anyone (the press) knowing where he'd be or being able to cover it.

If he'd embraced Trump it would have been worse.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
36. Point of interest: the small line of copy above the headline is called an eyebrow.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:15 AM
Nov 2017

You got it right. The headline will always be in bigger type.

IronLionZion

(45,439 posts)
37. All of Trump's allies need to take notice of this
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:33 AM
Nov 2017

Everyone who has ever worked with or for Trump needs to understand how quickly they will be thrown under the bus.

Gillespie ran an openly pro-Trump campaign demonizing immigrants and claiming Democrats are giving sanctuary to dangerous Latino gang members. Trump himself spewed this nonsense specifically to support Gillespie even though his campaign manger was indicted.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
39. Republicans are fucking idiots!
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:51 AM
Nov 2017

Trump will DESTROY their damned party and stick a shiv in their backs and laugh his ass off when it's DEAD!!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
50. Gillespie ran the most vile, despicable ads in Northern Virginia.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:25 AM
Nov 2017

He really helped our GOTV effort enormously.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
46. Ingraham
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:59 AM
Nov 2017

did nail it though. Gillespie DID play footsie with conservative populism (whatever the hell that is) without embracing it. The base knew he was faking it and moderates wanted nothing to do with a Trump-humper.

lark

(23,099 posts)
47. That's just msm BS about civil war among repugs.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:19 AM
Nov 2017

Even Corker and Flake vote with the president and party over 90% of the time. Repugs are united on fucking us over to a huge degree, they agree on cutting taxes for rich by raising them on poor, cutting SS, Medicaid and Medicare, food stamps, help for the poor, help for Puerto Rico, education, clean air and water - just abut everything that is important to the poor and middle class.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
48. K&R. Repugs wrote the book on how to be two-faced.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:10 AM
Nov 2017

Populist racist, bigoted jawbs-n-gunz-n-Christian vote-getting on-TV face on one side...

Semi-hidden extreme right-wing "cut 'till we can drown the gummit in a bathtub face" on the other - only seen on the floor of Congress.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
49. Chris Hayes' response to Trump's tweet was "Tire tracks on Gillespie's face."
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:23 AM
Nov 2017

Why would ANYBODY EVER be loyal to Trump? How many times do they need to see what happens?

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