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unhip white guy

(78 posts)
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:00 PM Nov 2017

The global population of flying insects is crashing dangerously fast

Source: Globalpost/PRI

November 14, 2017 · 2:15 PM EST

The disappearance of bees and butterflies has concerned scientists and the public for years. Now, a new study from Germany confirms that the abundance of flying insects has dropped over 75 percent since 1989.

The journal PLOS One reports that amateur entomologists in Germany have discovered that some three-quarters of flying insects there have vanished from nature preserves. Dave Goulson, professor of biology at the University of Sussex in the UK, says the problem is so serious, it could lead to an “ecological Armageddon.”

“Flying insects make up the bulk of life on Earth. About two-thirds of all species we know are insects,” Goulson says. “They pollinate more than 80 percent of all the plant species on Earth, so if we lose the flying insects we will lose all the flowers on Earth — literally all of them. Flowers evolved to attract insects, that's why we have them. Three-quarters of our crops need pollinating by flying insects. So, we’d have a world without most fruit and vegetables.”

Insects do other important things, too. They help keep pests under control, they recycle dung and they are food for the majority of other creatures. “Most birds at some stage of their life cycle eat insects. Almost all reptiles, amphibians, aquatic fish, bats, lots of small mammals — all depend on insects. So, essentially, take away the insects and everything else is going to collapse,” Goulson says.

Read more: https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-11-14/global-population-flying-insects-crashing-dangerously-fast



Just a reminder that Trump isn't the only threat to the globe.
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The global population of flying insects is crashing dangerously fast (Original Post) unhip white guy Nov 2017 OP
But alas, not mosquitoes. sandensea Nov 2017 #1
And don't get me started on roaches Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #19
Oh, no! sandensea Nov 2017 #21
thanks for this! Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #29
You're welcome. sandensea Nov 2017 #30
Hey! Before you start, don't blame Monsanto tecelote Nov 2017 #2
If you ask the evangelicals; whom believe that everything was put here for their exploit... to for EarthFirst Nov 2017 #3
The Pave the Earth Gang. Sometimes known as Dominionists. Power above principles. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #6
The fruit flies are in my kitchen Marthe48 Nov 2017 #4
We are hosting some Asian ladybugs for the winter. redwitch Nov 2017 #5
This news is very alarming if it is valid lindalou65 Nov 2017 #7
People are so used to using poison, when safer substances will do. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #8
I have tons of bees inn my yard his year. Never seen so many. Big and fat. notdarkyet Nov 2017 #11
FWIW, Ive seen a lot more butterflies than usual this year. Roland99 Nov 2017 #9
Me too. OhZone Nov 2017 #28
I am currently covered in over 150 bug bite scars BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #10
Try an electric bug zapper and set up a barrier for yourself. notdarkyet Nov 2017 #13
Do they have personal ones? BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #20
They do work. haele Nov 2017 #31
ISIS, Trump and all the other assholes of the World Turbineguy Nov 2017 #12
I think ISIS has Lost their Chance unhip white guy Nov 2017 #23
This is probably the worst thing imaginable. yardwork Nov 2017 #14
What you can do the Xerces Society and Doug Tallamy's bringing nature home Botany Nov 2017 #15
K & R Duppers Nov 2017 #16
Bad news: Global emissions are on the rise again keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #17
Gosh Darn It unhip white guy Nov 2017 #26
3/4th of ALL Global Honey Contains Insecticides Duppers Nov 2017 #18
It's freaky that these reports are coming out just now... emmadoggy Nov 2017 #22
I noticed many less Dragonflies/butterflies over my meadow past years, wonder if thats related? Sunlei Nov 2017 #24
Thanks republicans Achilleaze Nov 2017 #25
It is too late. The Sixth Mass Extinction has already begun. democratisphere Nov 2017 #27
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
19. And don't get me started on roaches
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:39 PM
Nov 2017

the big uglies moved to our neighborhood by the hundreds of thousands three years ago and it has been a daily struggle....

sandensea

(23,362 posts)
21. Oh, no!
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:59 PM
Nov 2017

Try this: buy wormwood herb in bulk (you can get it at many health-food stores, or order online from Frontier, Mountain Rose, etc.); sprinkle in corners and wherever roaches might like to settle (in kitchen cupboards or behind the fridge, for instance).

It's safe for pets and babies (and really bitter), and insects hate it. The mere scent will send them packing - and yet it's nearly imperceptible to people.

Good luck.

sandensea

(23,362 posts)
30. You're welcome.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 03:17 PM
Nov 2017

That's one of the things I miss about living in Southern California: a lot fewer bugs. Generally the more humid the climate, the more you get.

tecelote

(5,156 posts)
2. Hey! Before you start, don't blame Monsanto
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1TSNF_enUS443US443&ei=XncLWqjsAYbqjwT3p5_YDg&q=bad+pesticides+monsanto&oq=bad+pesticides+monsanto

This is worse than Trump. He's only here for a year or two.

This is devastating and it's going to affect your children. We continue to poison the earth at rates that will jeopardize the future of many generations.


EarthFirst

(4,156 posts)
3. If you ask the evangelicals; whom believe that everything was put here for their exploit... to for
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

Youll begin to understand why were fucked.

Marthe48

(23,185 posts)
4. The fruit flies are in my kitchen
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

<joke> This was the first summer in years I had them, though. I have noticed that there are less and less insects if I leave the porch light on.

redwitch

(15,263 posts)
5. We are hosting some Asian ladybugs for the winter.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:17 PM
Nov 2017

Not tons but it looks like several dozen. They are hibernating in our dining room and occasionally one will fly to the sink for some water. In the spring they will fly away to eat aphids.



I am grateful there aren’t thousands of them though.

lindalou65

(391 posts)
7. This news is very alarming if it is valid
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:36 PM
Nov 2017

Professor Emeritus and Eminent Biologist E. O. Wilson's quote and a dire warning:

"If we were to wipe out insects alone on this planet, the rest of humanity and life with it would mostly disappear from the land, within a few months."

Pretty scary!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. People are so used to using poison, when safer substances will do.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:40 PM
Nov 2017

I'm very worried about this. I haven't seen a bee in a long time. There used to be a lot of bees around.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
11. I have tons of bees inn my yard his year. Never seen so many. Big and fat.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:34 PM
Nov 2017

I guess I'm a bee sanctuary. They have been hitting my hummingbird feeders pretty hard.

BigmanPigman

(55,177 posts)
10. I am currently covered in over 150 bug bite scars
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:09 PM
Nov 2017

and new bites and it has been getting worse for the past 3 years. Now for 6 months out of the year fruit flies (yes, they leave bacteria on the skin and if you are allergic you react like it is an actual bite) and mosquitos are feasting on me. My sheets are covered in blood. AAAHHHH!!!!!!! I have to wear OFF! all the time.

haele

(15,412 posts)
31. They do work.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 03:32 PM
Nov 2017

We got a table top model that's basically just a UV light and an electric mesh under a fan that drives them into it. In one week, it's already taken care of half the drain flies we can't get rid of until we get a contractor down under our sink to replace the sub-floor around our kitchen drain and barrier wrap/insulation under our kitchen floor and venting.
Most people mistake drain flies for fruit flies or pantry moths, but since you're getting an allergic reaction, you probably do have fruit flies.
We tried the tennis-racket type electric swatter zapper, and while we got a few, we had to be careful not to swat near anything that might either break the swatter or break/electrocute the item it hit - like a cat trying to help or a snoozing spouse in his recliner.

The UV light zappers tend to work better on mosquitos, mites, and fleas, but they still get other flying buggers.

Haele

Turbineguy

(40,083 posts)
12. ISIS, Trump and all the other assholes of the World
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:34 PM
Nov 2017

will be disappointed. They thought they would be the ones to bring life to an end.

 

unhip white guy

(78 posts)
23. I think ISIS has Lost their Chance
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:41 AM
Nov 2017

But don't count ol' Donnie out, especially with his mind growing more agitated as the cracks in his Administration start to spread.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
17. Bad news: Global emissions are on the rise again
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:20 PM
Nov 2017

Bad news: Global emissions are on the rise again
Emissions are up again this year by an estimated 1 to 3 percent

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/14/bad-news-global-emissions-are-on-the-rise-again_partner/

Obviously not related...... Absolutely not!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141914154

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
18. 3/4th of ALL Global Honey Contains Insecticides
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:34 PM
Nov 2017

Almost 200 samples of honey were analysed for neonicotinoid insecticides and 75% contained the chemicals, with most contaminated with multiple types. Bees range over many kilometres to collect nectar and pollen, making the honey they produce an excellent indicator of the pesticide pollution across their local landscape.

Bees and other pollinators are vital to three-quarters of the world’s food crops but have been in serious decline in recent decades. The destruction of wild habitats, disease and widespread pesticide use are all important factors. Scientists responding to the new work say a crackdown on the industrial-scale use of the nerve agents is urgently needed.


http://pin.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=aIubLCBT3nl%2B6urdtl72q78gTORAy%2Bmy


emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
22. It's freaky that these reports are coming out just now...
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:33 PM
Nov 2017

Just a few weeks ago, I was actually commenting about this to my husband. I've noticed that when we are driving there are FAR, FAR fewer bugs smacking the windshield. It used to be in the summer time, the windshield would be covered with bugs, from tiny gnats to the occasional big, juicy one.

Now, it's just not really much of an issue. It is frightening.

I used to see far more wildlife along the roadsides when we drove, too. Used to commonly see streaked gophers (striped ground squirrels), rabbits, pheasants, skunks, raccoons, woodchucks etc. Now, we see some roadkilled skunks, coons, and mostly deer, but we almost NEVER seen any other critters. I do have a theory about the wildlife, though. We have seen a dramatic comeback of bald eagles and I suspect that may be (one reason) why we see fewer of the small animals. I don't imagine it accounts for it entirely, though.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. I noticed many less Dragonflies/butterflies over my meadow past years, wonder if thats related?
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 06:15 AM
Nov 2017

personally only use insecticide against fire ants, hand treat, (1/4 tsp.) any mound /w Orthene Fire Ant Killer.

Haven't seen "lightening bugs" in years, /sigh

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
27. It is too late. The Sixth Mass Extinction has already begun.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:39 AM
Nov 2017

Homo Sapiens have really f'ed it up this time. Now it is only a matter of time.

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