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Panho

(39 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:39 AM Dec 2017

Trump lawyer says president knew Flynn had given FBI the same account he gave to vice president

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Source: Washington Post

President Trump’s personal lawyer said on Sunday that the president knew in late January that then-national security adviser Michael Flynn had probably given FBI agents the same inaccurate account he provided to Vice President Pence about a call with the Russian ambassador.

Trump lawyer John Dowd said the information was passed to Trump by White House counsel Donald McGahn, who had been warned about Flynn’s statement to the vice president by a senior Justice Department official. The vice president said publicly at the time that Flynn had told him he had not discussed sanctions with the Russian diplomat — a statement disproved by a U.S. intelligence intercept of a phone call between Flynn and then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Trump was aware of the issue a couple of weeks before a conversation with then-FBI Director James B. Comey in which Comey said the president asked him if he could be lenient while investigating Flynn, whom Trump had just fired for misleading Pence about the nature of his conversations with the Russian.

According to notes kept by Comey, Trump asked if he could see “his way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.” Trump fired Comey in May.

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Trump lawyer says president knew Flynn had given FBI the same account he gave to vice president (Original Post) Panho Dec 2017 OP
Pretzel-twisted talking point. BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #1
Yes... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2017 #4
Trump's lawyer admints his client DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #2
That struck me. Do dumb clents hire dumb lawyers? Are they building some sort of mental deficiency.. marble falls Dec 2017 #5
A lawyer with a law degree from tRump University? lastlib Dec 2017 #6
How can you KNOW something PROBABLY happened? Xipe Totec Dec 2017 #3
Yes Fudging bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #8
Exactly, which is why I hope Mueller is going after the money laundering Merlot Dec 2017 #12
So a lawyer just admitted that his client broke the law? Botany Dec 2017 #7
Lying is OK if no one can prove you wrong. kentuck Dec 2017 #9
Trump twisted comments within twisted comments.... I have to riversedge Dec 2017 #10
Still violating the first law of holes eom Maeve Dec 2017 #11
No Doubt that Comey was Wearing a Wire Anticipating the Outcome of the Meeting eringer Dec 2017 #13
"given... the same inaccurate account" malthaussen Dec 2017 #14
You cant unring a bell John... BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #15
Dowd is a trip. OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #16
hell we can just bluestarone Dec 2017 #17
Locking.... DonViejo Dec 2017 #18

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
1. Pretzel-twisted talking point.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:38 AM
Dec 2017

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,307 posts)
4. Yes...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:21 AM
Dec 2017

... but the word that came to my mind was, "horse excrement".

DeminPennswoods

(17,504 posts)
2. Trump's lawyer admints his client
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:53 AM
Dec 2017

knew about a crime (lying to the FBI) after being told by the WH counsel and did nothing about it. Hoo boy, they are all throwing each other under the bus. It must be true: no honor among thieves.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
5. That struck me. Do dumb clents hire dumb lawyers? Are they building some sort of mental deficiency..
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:39 AM
Dec 2017

defense?

lastlib

(28,262 posts)
6. A lawyer with a law degree from tRump University?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:51 AM
Dec 2017

the guy should be disbarred for incompetence if he wrote the tweet about Pres. firing of Flynn.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
3. How can you KNOW something PROBABLY happened?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:05 AM
Dec 2017

It either happened, or it didn't, and you either know it as a certainty, or you don't.

Either you know that something happened, or you speculate that something may have happened.

bucolic_frolic

(55,135 posts)
8. Yes Fudging
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:58 AM
Dec 2017

Blurring the facts so no one can ever get at them. Being on both sides creates a reasonable doubt, and is politically popular to both sides.

Insanity and confusion are their greatest assets in court or in public opinion. That is how they are hoping to manage this.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
12. Exactly, which is why I hope Mueller is going after the money laundering
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:33 AM
Dec 2017

issues around the russians and trumpft Money laundering is also easier for the average person to understand.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
7. So a lawyer just admitted that his client broke the law?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:53 AM
Dec 2017

n/t

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
9. Lying is OK if no one can prove you wrong.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:04 AM
Dec 2017

Lying is natural to this bunch of jerks.

riversedge

(80,809 posts)
10. Trump twisted comments within twisted comments.... I have to
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:41 AM
Dec 2017


admit--the WH creating confusion is working on me (sometimes).

Link added as it is not in the OP:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-lawyer-says-president-knew-flynn-had-given-fbi-the-same-account-he-gave-to-vice-president/2017/12/03/5c59a620-d849-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?utm_term=.34961263ee38


Trump lawyer says president knew Flynn had given FBI the same account he gave to vice president

https://www.facebook.com/ellennakashimapost/

........Dowd confirmed Sunday that he had drafted the tweet for Trump and acknowledged that it was sloppily worded. He said it was inaccurate to say the president was told that Flynn had lied to the FBI. Dowd said Sunday that Trump knew only what acting attorney general Sally Yates had told the White House counsel: that Flynn’s accounts to the agents interviewing him were the same as those Flynn gave Pence, and “that the [Justice] Department was not accusing him of lying.”

People familiar with Yates’ account say she never discussed any part of the FBI investigation with the White House.

Dowd played down the significance of Trump’s tweet, saying he did not intend to make news and declared, “I’m out of the tweeting business.”



[Graphic: Here’s what we know so far about Team Trump’s ties to Russian interests]

But several legal experts said the tweet, and some of Dowd’s comments about what the president may have known, could increase the president’s legal exposure............................

Maeve

(43,456 posts)
11. Still violating the first law of holes eom
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:53 AM
Dec 2017

eringer

(528 posts)
13. No Doubt that Comey was Wearing a Wire Anticipating the Outcome of the Meeting
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:35 AM
Dec 2017

"According to notes kept by Comey, Trump asked if he could see “his way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.” Trump fired Comey in May."
More than just mental notes -- more like jailbird song notes recorded on a low bidder gov't issued wire -- and Trump knows it.

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
14. "given... the same inaccurate account"
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:45 AM
Dec 2017

Just a bit of pique here: I am getting so sick of weasel words. Can we please start calling lies "lies" again, WaPo?

Although, frankly, I doubt Flynn lied to anyone... on the transition team.

-- Mal

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. You cant unring a bell John...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:46 AM
Dec 2017

Dowd should be disbarred...

OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
16. Dowd is a trip.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:05 PM
Dec 2017

Bad enough that he's unable to keep his client from yammering on about an ongoing investigation, but Dowd is arguably worse - because he knows better. Or maybe not?

bluestarone

(22,177 posts)
17. hell we can just
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:13 PM
Dec 2017

sit back and let his lawyer do the work for us LMAO

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
18. Locking....
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:24 PM
Dec 2017

Hosts alerted you to the missing link for the article at 7:40 a.m., you haven't provided it.

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